So you got yourself COVID vaccine. Think you can’t get COVID? Think again.

More misinformation on MSM. Given the recent news from Massachusetts on the alarming number of fully vaccinated people testing positive there was a news report on. A Dr said you may still get COVID but certainly will not die from it. Well that guy I know was fully vaccinated and was told if he wouldn't have went to the ER that night he would not have made it through the night. So this Dr on TV going on national news spreading misinformation in support of the vaccine. And given the recent news in Massachusetts it seems there really is no point in getting vaccinated.
1) you still need to wear a mask
2) you can still spread the virus
3) you can still get the virus and die from it
4) oh...and it is still in emergency mode and not fully approved

Given #4 how can gov't or private sector 'require' you to get it? What if my employer requires it and I have bad side effects and possibly longer term health issues? Will my employer be liable? Will the gov't? Pretty sure the gov't has immunity but the private sector does not
 
Could someone post how many people have died from ALL the “FDA approved” vaccines combined, MMR, Pneumonia, Chicken Pox, DTap, IPV, PCV, VR, Hepatitis B, HPV, Flu, etc from 2005 -2020? -Vs- all the deaths associated with the Covid vaccine from 2020-2021? I would be interested in that number. Truly, can someone dig it up? Second, since you can still become infected/spread after having the vaccine, what is the upside? Wouldn’t it be better to have convalescent plasma treatment or HCQ? Honest question?? How can people not be upset after receiving a vaccine, only to find out that you were injected with “something” that isn’t working as was promised by the scientists.
 
Haden said:
Could someone post how many people have died from ALL the “FDA approved” vaccines combined, MMR, Pneumonia, Chicken Pox, DTap, IPV, PCV, VR, Hepatitis B, HPV, Flu, etc from 2005 -2020? -Vs- all the deaths associated with the Covid vaccine from 2020-2021? I would be interested in that number. Truly, can someone dig it up? Second, since you can still become infected/spread after having the vaccine, what is the upside? Wouldn’t it be better to have convalescent plasma treatment or HCQ? Honest question?? How can people not be upset after receiving a vaccine, only to find out that you were injected with “something” that isn’t working as was promised by the scientists.
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This is close to what you're asking for.

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Then there's this..

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Went to my Dr last week and the nurse told me no way was she going to get the vaccine
 
firecadet613 said:
This is close to what you're asking for.

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Excellent post!! This should tell you EVERYTHING you need to know. I personally will choose plasma treatment or HCQ. Anyone care to share ALL the deaths of the FDA approved drug HCQ, 40 plus years? What about the deaths associated with Plasma treatment?
 
boatman37 said:
More misinformation on MSM. Given the recent news from Massachusetts on the alarming number of fully vaccinated people testing positive there was a news report on. A Dr said you may still get COVID but certainly will not die from it. Well that guy I know was fully vaccinated and was told if he wouldn't have went to the ER that night he would not have made it through the night. So this Dr on TV going on national news spreading misinformation in support of the vaccine. And given the recent news in Massachusetts it seems there really is no point in getting vaccinated.
1) you still need to wear a mask
2) you can still spread the virus
3) you can still get the virus and die from it
4) oh...and it is still in emergency mode and not fully approved

Given #4 how can gov't or private sector 'require' you to get it? What if my employer requires it and I have bad side effects and possibly longer term health issues? Will my employer be liable? Will the gov't? Pretty sure the gov't has immunity but the private sector does not
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The messaging sucks. While not 100% effective, the vaccine reduces hospitalization and death rates to common flu levels. Look at the number vaccinated vs the number who died while vaccinated. The panic porn is ridiculous.
 
Golfman25 said:
The messaging sucks. While not 100% effective, the vaccine reduces hospitalization and death rates to common flu levels. Look at the number vaccinated vs the number who died while vaccinated. The panic porn is ridiculous.
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What is the death rate of the Flu for the past 5 years?
 
firecadet613 said:
This is close to what you're asking for.

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"Reports of death after COVID-19 vaccination are rare. More than 342 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines were administered in the United States from December 14, 2020, through July 26, 2021. During this time, VAERS received 6,340 reports of death (0.0019%) among people who received a COVID-19 vaccine. FDA requires healthcare providers to report any death after COVID-19 vaccination to VAERS, even if it’s unclear whether the vaccine was the cause. Reports of adverse events to VAERS following vaccination, including deaths, do not necessarily mean that a vaccine caused a health problem. A review of available clinical information, including death certificates, autopsy, and medical records, has not established a causal link to COVID-19 vaccines. However, recent reports indicate a plausible causal relationship between the J&J/Janssen COVID-19 Vaccine and TTS, a rare and serious adverse event—blood clots with low platelets—which has caused deaths." -https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/adverse-events.html
I believe the number of TTS deaths linked to the vaccine was three.
 
MonacoMike said:
Why can you not go to your family doctor and get the vaccine?

Hmmmm...
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Hmmmm.... you can at some dr’s offices. Depends if they are set up with necessary equipment to store the various vaccines at the appropriate temperatures. Oh, and you would need to schedule an appointment, which takes away an appointment for someone who might actually be sick, as well as be willing to pay for an office call, all to get a simple injection that takes 1 minute and is free at your local pharmacy.

Oh wait, none of what I just said is true - I forgot the script.... its a giant worldwide conspiracy....
 
Haden said:
What is the death rate of the Flu for the past 5 years?
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CDC estimates for seasonal influenza deaths in the US:
  • 2019 - 2020: 22k*
  • 2018 - 2019: 34k*
  • 2017 - 2018: 61k*
  • 2016 - 2017: 38k
  • 2015 - 2016: 23k
*The last three years of published data are considered preliminary.
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/index.html

2020 - 2021 numbers currently are tracking as exceedingly low--fewer than 1000. Per the standard process for detailed data review, some numbers may end up being reassigned from COVID to other causes, and vice versa, so it may be some time before we have the most accurate numbers.
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/season/faq-flu-season-2020-2021.htm

ETA: my internet must be on time delay....didn't see the chart alnav posted when I added this!
 
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Haden said:
Why are the PCR test now inaccurate? I thought it was said by the scientist that the PCR test wast the “Gold Standard.”
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I'm not finding references questioning accuracy of PCR beyond the original concerns about whether the tests were being administered properly and the specimens were being handled/processed properly. Can you elaborate?
 
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Haden said:
Why are the PCR test now inaccurate? I thought it was said by the scientist that the PCR test wast the “Gold Standard.”
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I believe the inventor said that after 30 cycles of the test the accuracy declines and they have been testing using 40 cycles of the test. Hence the inaccuracy statement.
 
What the PCR test able to detect differentiation/difference between of SARS-CoV-2 and FLU/influenza viruses?
 
alnav said:
"Reports of death after COVID-19 vaccination are rare. More than 342 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines were administered in the United States from December 14, 2020, through July 26, 2021. During this time, VAERS received 6,340 reports of death (0.0019%) among people who received a COVID-19 vaccine. FDA requires healthcare providers to report any death after COVID-19 vaccination to VAERS, even if it’s unclear whether the vaccine was the cause. Reports of adverse events to VAERS following vaccination, including deaths, do not necessarily mean that a vaccine caused a health problem. A review of available clinical information, including death certificates, autopsy, and medical records, has not established a causal link to COVID-19 vaccines. However, recent reports indicate a plausible causal relationship between the J&J/Janssen COVID-19 Vaccine and TTS, a rare and serious adverse event—blood clots with low platelets—which has caused deaths." -https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/adverse-events.html
I believe the number of TTS deaths linked to the vaccine was three.
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What are the annual deaths from all other vaccines - much less the deaths from JUST the covid vaccine. I've seen the number posted, I'll have to search for it.
 
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