So you got yourself COVID vaccine. Think you can’t get COVID? Think again.

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At this point….
 
tc410 said:
You’re progressing along nicely there sparky…. You are now admitting that it is, in fact, horse paste.
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I for one wish I was half as smart as you and Iprof. Geez , you boys are slick.
 
alnav said:
Congratulations.
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I am also vaccinated, and also had the booster. However I have never feared the covid.
In fact I had my second shot on March 23 and had a widow maker heart attack that evening. However I had been miserable for a couple weeks prior to that.
If covid is the worst thing to happen here we have it made sir. Think about it.
 
RBB said:
I am also vaccinated, and also had the booster. However I have never feared the covid.
In fact I had my second shot on March 23 and had a widow maker heart attack that evening. However I had been miserable for a couple weeks prior to that.
If covid is the worst thing to happen here we have it made sir. Think about it.
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Sorry to hear RBB. Glad you are still with us.
 
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RBB said:
I am also vaccinated, and also had the booster. However I have never feared the covid.
In fact I had my second shot on March 23 and had a widow maker heart attack that evening. However I had been miserable for a couple weeks prior to that.
If covid is the worst thing to happen here we have it made sir. Think about it.
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RBB, well said and I certainly agree. Hope you've recovered from the heart attack. My interest is in putting covid in the rear view mirror as fast as possible.
 
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alnav said:
Congratulations.
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Ha. You must have missed where I said how easy it was to say, "I'm vaccinated". Ain't no way I'd get that shit. Plus, if one have natural antibodies, why would they need it?

tc410 said:
You’re progressing along nicely there sparky…. You are now admitting that it is, in fact, horse paste.
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Wow @tc410 your reading comprehension continues to fail to an all time low.. must be needing another jab!

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alnav said:
RBB, well said and I certainly agree. Hope you've recovered from the heart attack. My interest is in putting covid in the rear view mirror as fast as possible.
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The media and the politicians will not allow that. Just look at Omicron. It's less deadly, but roll up your sleeves. Pfizer needs more $$$ and plenty are dumb enough to keep getting boosters...
 
tc410 said:
My reading comprehension? Seriously? Look at the quotes there sparky, those were your words and now you say I can’t read? Maybe the vax would help your dementia….
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Nah. I'm just messing with you. I didn't think someone could be stupid enough to believe all the BS out there that it's horse paste...but you've proven some people really are just that ignorant.

So @tc410, when you inevitably get covid, don't use the horse paste. It's no good and doesn't work.
 
alnav said:
It's encouraging to see a member change his mind and adopt rational positions. Good for you.
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You old guys truly have lost it. Must be that 4th booster that did you in.

Rational positions would be realizing how cheap and effective ivermectin is at treating COVID. If big media and big pharma are pushing it's cover up and vilifying it, there's your sign. If multiple doctors have come out for it and are willing to loose it all to get the info and medicine to the people, there's your sign.

But instead, most cannot use critical thinking skills and use talking points such as horse paste and praising the multiple rounds of vaccines. You'd think after jab, jab, jab and the jab proving to be not effective, people would wise up. But, here we are. And unlike what many are parroting now, these vaccines were originally sold as the be all, end all. No more masking, no spreading covid, etc. All that has proven to be a lie, but many still buy into the BS. I'll never understand it.

It's truly a wonder how some have made it so far in life, only being able to parrot the big media, big pharma, big government line...
 
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firecadet613 said:
Vaxtards can't read a chart? Or they think this BS is normal? Jab away guys.... I'll continue to laugh at you from the sidelines with my horse paste...
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Many of us can read charts, and also use critical thinking skills to find and read source data in context. As noted previously by others, information presented in VAERS warrants attention, and I recommend folks use it directly to validate anything circulating in the wild. Search criteria I used for first report: location of US/Territories and a selection of 4 symptoms that appeared to be closest matches for descriptors in the image you shared. I left the default selections in all remaining fields to include every vaccine, every vaccine manufacturer, every age/gender of subject, any date of onset following vaccination (from 1 to Over 120 to Unknown), any number of doses (from 1 to 7 to Unknown) and so on, to match as closely as possible "all other vaccines combined (30 years of usage)."
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For the second report, I changed one field to select for COVID19 vaccine only, and found it accounts for well over half the total number of reported events of each symptom. Based on that single consideration, I agree it may be cause for huge concern. However, there may be additional variables to consider, as well, a key one being whether a recent change in awareness/usage of VAERS has caused substantially higher reporting of COVID19 vaccine-related events than for other vaccines. That wouldn't change how much investigation should be done for the COVID19-related events, but it could be very significant when attempting to compare to other vaccines individually or combined.
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And from the its own statement on interpreting the information:

When reviewing data from VAERS, please keep in mind the following limitations:
VAERS is a passive reporting system, meaning that reports about adverse events are not automatically collected, but require a report to be filed to VAERS. VAERS reports can be submitted voluntarily by anyone, including healthcare providers, patients, or family members. Reports vary in quality and completeness. They often lack details and sometimes can have information that contains errors.
"Underreporting" is one of the main limitations of passive surveillance systems, including VAERS. The term, underreporting refers to the fact that VAERS receives reports for only a small fraction of actual adverse events. The degree of underreporting varies widely. As an example, a great many of the millions of vaccinations administered each year by injection cause soreness, but relatively few of these episodes lead to a VAERS report. Physicians and patients understand that minor side effects of vaccinations often include this kind of discomfort, as well as low fevers. On the other hand, more serious and unexpected medical events are probably more likely to be reported than minor ones, especially when they occur soon after vaccination, even if they may be coincidental and related to other causes.
A report to VAERS generally does not prove that the identified vaccine(s) caused the adverse event described. It only confirms that the reported event occurred sometime after vaccine was given. No proof that the event was caused by the vaccine is required in order for VAERS to accept the report. VAERS accepts all reports without judging whether the event was caused by the vaccine.
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Bottom line: VAERS isn't helpful as a tool to describe how safe any vaccine is. (Any source that doesn't have or can't point to relevant supporting information demonstrating causative/contributive relationship isn't helpful.)

Case in point: RBB's unfortunate heart event. (Happy to hear you've recovered!!!) Its timing raises my suspicion--RBB felt miserable for a couple of weeks before the second shot. Did dose 1 cause those symptoms? Did dose 1 create a cardiac situation of some sort that didn't exist/were those early symptoms related to the heart attack? Did dose 2 exacerbate any effects from the first, and/or did it straight up cause the heart attack? As a lay person, I wouldn't say absolutely yes, nor would I say absolutely no. It's the kind of thing I'd expect to see in VAERS as "x happened, then y happened" and ask experts to sort.
 

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