Sea Ray abandons plan to join jetboat market

Discussion in 'Announcements & FAQs' started by MonacoMike, Sep 7, 2013.

  1. fwebster

    fwebster Well-Known Member TECHNICAL Contributor PLATINUM Sponsor

    Oct 6, 2006
    Middle Tennessee ; Panama City Beach, FL
    1996 450DA
    3116 Caterpillars
    The sale of jet boats was down 28% last year. I hope the other makers know what they are doing, but for right now it looks like Sea Ray Marketing made a good call in canceling the jet program when they encountered engine difficulties with the Weber power train.
     
  2. Phlorida

    Phlorida New Member

    867
    Sep 15, 2010
    Satellite Beach, FL
    1995 250 Sundancer
    5.7L Mercruiser w/Bravo II
    I don't really get the jet boats but I probably just don't understand. When I see a jet boat trying to idle in the ICW it looks like they are trying to steer a carnival ride. They seem to be primarily marketed to the water sports crowd but it is my understanding that they don't do as well at pulling people as the same boat with a traditional prop driven engine. Am I way off?
     
  3. k9medic

    k9medic Active Member

    528
    Mar 27, 2013
    Florida
    2005 23' twin engine jet boat
    1998 420 Aft Cabin
    twin jet 160hp.
    twin 3116 CATs
    I'm jumping in a little late in this discussion but I think I can tell you why Sea Ray is staying out of the jet boat market.

    I have owned a 2005 23' Yamaha SX230HO Jet boat for the past 4 years. It is hands down the best boat that I have ever owned. Yahama (and Sea Doo) to some extend have corned the market on these types of boats and have perfected just about everything with them. The purchase price for a new Yamaha starts around 22K and the average price is around $40K.

    This boat has been amazing and I have taken it to the Bahamas as well as a 10 day trip down the west coast of Florida to Key West. I've been caught in 8' waves 65nm offshore in it (not pleasant but I survived, which is now why we are also buying a 420 Aft Cabin) and have run across the flats of Bimini in 8" of water.

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  4. FootballFan

    FootballFan Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    Jun 20, 2012
    Florida
    Marquis 59
    MTU Series 60
    I used to have a Yamaha - sold it last year. I thought it was a very well made, quality boat.

    It's very different handling at slow speed since you do not get any rudder effect from a lower unit. When the engines are in neutral, the wind will blow the boat around. The only time you have control is with power. Was a learning curve, but can be mastered. After a while I added some aftermarket fins to the bottom of the jet's - made a huge difference - though negatively impacted the "sliding turn".

    Several interesting points. There is no transmission, the engines are directly coupled to the jet drives, always spinning them the same direction. At low idle, very small amount of thrust. It will slightly push the boat forward - to be dead still - kill the motors.

    Also, reverse occurs when deflector gates are dropped on the outside of the jet nozzles. When the controls are moved to reverse, a cable drops the gates. No mechanical parts change direction. Dealer I bought the boat from pointed out that you can shift into reverse at any speed without pausing. This boat definitely has "brakes".

    There are videos floating around of people at 30MPH+ jerking the boat into reverse with power. Will dunk the bow of the boat under water. (Not for me).

    We did have a lot of fun with the sliding turns. When you turn the wheel, the boat does turn.

    Surprised no one has posted the Yamaha Jet boat warning sticker that is on the back. Has generated a lot of jokes through the years.
     
  5. k9medic

    k9medic Active Member

    528
    Mar 27, 2013
    Florida
    2005 23' twin engine jet boat
    1998 420 Aft Cabin
    twin jet 160hp.
    twin 3116 CATs
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  6. Lazy Daze

    Lazy Daze Well-Known Member TECHNICAL Contributor GOLD Sponsor

    Apr 21, 2009
    PA
    Various
    Various
    Before this goes anywhere... I don't know that this qualifies as a funny joke. A friend of mine is a surgeon and he can testify to this being anything BUT funny. He worked on a teenage girl that fell off the back of a jetski as it was taking off. Now she can not have children.
     
  7. Gofirstclass

    Gofirstclass Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    Apr 20, 2010
    Tri Cities, WA
    1995 550 Sedan Bridge,
    2010 Boston Whaler 130 Super Sport,
    1981 Boston Whaler 130 Sport,
    CAT 3406C's, 580hp.
    Wow, I didn't know falling off a boat could make you sterile.
     
  8. Henry Boyd

    Henry Boyd Well-Known Member PLATINUM Sponsor

    Apr 24, 2007
    Newburyport, on the peaceful and serene Merrimack
    02' 280 DA
    496 w BIII
    Getting back on topic, the Hinckley Picnic Boat and the Talaria are both jet drives. So clearly a quality boat can be delivered with a jet.

    Henry


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  9. Lazy Daze

    Lazy Daze Well-Known Member TECHNICAL Contributor GOLD Sponsor

    Apr 21, 2009
    PA
    Various
    Various
    One of our neighbors where our cabins are, off the coast of Maine, has one. That is a VERY pretty boat. Wonderfully classic lines.
     
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  10. FootballFan

    FootballFan Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    Jun 20, 2012
    Florida
    Marquis 59
    MTU Series 60
    Yes, I whole heartily agree that it is a serious matter. You can imagine a bunch of folks on floaties, with a cocktail in hand floating around the back of the boat - and reading the sticker for the first time.

    Inappropriate to make fun a serious potential injury - but off color, inappropriate humor does exist sometimes.
     
  11. Lazy Daze

    Lazy Daze Well-Known Member TECHNICAL Contributor GOLD Sponsor

    Apr 21, 2009
    PA
    Various
    Various
    Agreed.

    Just didn't want to see this thread go down the toilet. Given that it's winter for many of us, sometimes that leads to post after post after post of questionable material, quickly spiraling downhill.
     
  12. Phlorida

    Phlorida New Member

    867
    Sep 15, 2010
    Satellite Beach, FL
    1995 250 Sundancer
    5.7L Mercruiser w/Bravo II
    That is fascinating, I had no idea that there was a legitimate market for jet drives. I had always treated them as novelty items and now I know better.

    i just oust checked the Hinckley website and they have a lot of jet drive boats. I was on the MKIII Picnic Boat at the Miami Boat Show two years ago but I guess that I was so enamored with the build I'm not sure that I checked out the mechanicals.
     
    Last edited: Jan 9, 2014
  13. k9medic

    k9medic Active Member

    528
    Mar 27, 2013
    Florida
    2005 23' twin engine jet boat
    1998 420 Aft Cabin
    twin jet 160hp.
    twin 3116 CATs
    Not sure where this comment is directed, but it is in fact a warning sticker that is placed on the back of Yamaha jet boats.
     
  14. Phlorida

    Phlorida New Member

    867
    Sep 15, 2010
    Satellite Beach, FL
    1995 250 Sundancer
    5.7L Mercruiser w/Bravo II
    C'mon boating season!
     
  15. Lazy Daze

    Lazy Daze Well-Known Member TECHNICAL Contributor GOLD Sponsor

    Apr 21, 2009
    PA
    Various
    Various
    Says the guy, tongue in cheek, from Florida! :smt001
     

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