Putin is invading

Smashpjp said:
To further add on, Opec has a dominate Supply side impact to the Global "free" market...

They can control a huge part of the supply. We want to take away their power and not be beholden to them, reduce demand globally...

Maybe we restrict USA Oil to only be produced and sold to USA consumers....

Only problem is who is going to force oil companies not to sell to other global consumers or establish what the effective price is without proper market conditions to set the price.

Seems like many on this board are openly advocating for the USA government to take control of private enterprises and markets all because you cant stomach the price increase or limit your addition to petrol products. Comrade Marx would be proud.
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Please tell me you were high when you posted this.
 
nelson Gay said:
you are a fool then worst "investment" you can have. also since most people never receive what they have paid into SS it is really drained by all the other entitled drawers from SS disabled and survivor etc. benefits.
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Are you suggesting I should ask my employer to pay me less?
 
highslice said:
You do understand that Brandon's policies are the cause, right? 2 years ago we were net exporters of oil and gas. Now we are not. Ask yourself why. The oil companies are not going to invest in drilling or reopening closed well when the regulatory environment is so anti oil. Whose to say that Brandon's EPA won't just shut it all down?
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Shareholders are forcing Financial discipline of Large Oil and Gas companies.

https://www.dallasfed.org/research/surveys/des/2022/2201.aspx#tab-questions

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Smashpjp said:
Shareholders are forcing Financial discipline of Large Oil and Gas companies.

https://www.dallasfed.org/research/surveys/des/2022/2201.aspx#tab-questions

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You might want to dig into the details of the report. While it may be true that shareholders are demanding financial discipline, it is important to know the reason why. From the same report:

  • Investors dumped huge funds into shale drilling only to discover that when oil prices dropped, very little value existed at the end of the day. Investors have demanded restraint and capital discipline of their client companies. Government posturing and increased regulations are severely hampering the entire industry. Permitting roadblocks and politically emplaced barriers should be removed as this is dampening the willingness of anyone trying to bring new investments to the industry, regardless of that investment being for a private or public entity.
 
highslice said:
You might want to dig into the details of the report. While it may be true that shareholders are demanding financial discipline, it is important to know the reason why. From the same report:

  • Investors dumped huge funds into shale drilling only to discover that when oil prices dropped, very little value existed at the end of the day. Investors have demanded restraint and capital discipline of their client companies. Government posturing and increased regulations are severely hampering the entire industry. Permitting roadblocks and politically emplaced barriers should be removed as this is dampening the willingness of anyone trying to bring new investments to the industry, regardless of that investment being for a private or public entity.
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They are actually complaining about them not being an attractive for equity. And if you look at the returns of AAPL, GOOG, AMZN, TSLA, MSFT you can see why energy is not attractive.

And its big money, lets look at a Popular Total market fund. This is one of my favorites to dump things into. Vanguard Total Stock Market ETF (VTI). Just 3.8% in energy. Look at the top 10 list...

https://investor.vanguard.com/etf/profile/VTI

Think its just a flash, check out the largest ETF SPY. 3.8% as well
https://www.ssga.com/us/en/intermediary/etfs/funds/spdr-sp-500-etf-trust-spy

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This is the S&P 500 index folks.....

Energy isn't as attractive to Investors, so shareholders that do invest demand more discipline to drive greater dividens, buybacks, and profit margins.
 
Smashpjp said:
They are actually complaining about them not being an attractive for equity. And if you look at the returns of AAPL, GOOG, AMZN, TSLA, MSFT you can see why energy is not attractive.

And its big money, lets look at a Popular Total market fund. This is one of my favorites to dump things into. Vanguard Total Stock Market ETF (VTI). Just 3.8% in energy. Look at the top 10 list...

https://investor.vanguard.com/etf/profile/VTI

Think its just a flash, check out the largest ETF SPY. 3.8% as well
https://www.ssga.com/us/en/intermediary/etfs/funds/spdr-sp-500-etf-trust-spy

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This is the S&P 500 index folks.....

Energy isn't as attractive to Investors, so shareholders that do invest demand more discipline to drive greater dividens, buybacks, and profit margins.
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Why would it be attractive to investors when you have a bumbling, mumbling idiot waging a war on fossil fuels.
 
Golfman25 said:
Why would it be attractive to investors when you have a bumbling, mumbling idiot waging a war on fossil fuels.
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Why would a share holder say anything right now to change the profits they are making
I had this asshole neighbor that we played poker with…. he would invest a huge portion of his portfolio into oil and gas when oil went up….. then laugh at us when gas prices went up…. He would say he would pay more if he could for gas.
I always made sure he was my target at poker…. Then the phucker after the game would make me drive him home on my golf cart because his wife dropped him off….. it was probably to save gas.
 
Golfman25 said:
Why would it be attractive to investors when you have a bumbling, mumbling idiot waging a war on fossil fuels.
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Currently we r getting $90 aton in the pit for coal. Even though I hate the current Presidents decisions on gas and oil we are cashing in. Coal has been chit since Obama.
Until now I might add.
 
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Smashpjp said:
Are you suggesting I should ask my employer to pay me less?
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I did not realize you made the max salary, I thought you paid extra up to the max. SS still is the worst "investment" you could make hence why its a tax forced upon us
 
Smashpjp said:
They are actually complaining about them not being an attractive for equity. And if you look at the returns of AAPL, GOOG, AMZN, TSLA, MSFT you can see why energy is not attractive.

And its big money, lets look at a Popular Total market fund. This is one of my favorites to dump things into. Vanguard Total Stock Market ETF (VTI). Just 3.8% in energy. Look at the top 10 list...

https://investor.vanguard.com/etf/profile/VTI

Think its just a flash, check out the largest ETF SPY. 3.8% as well
https://www.ssga.com/us/en/intermediary/etfs/funds/spdr-sp-500-etf-trust-spy

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This is the S&P 500 index folks.....

Energy isn't as attractive to Investors, so shareholders that do invest demand more discipline to drive greater dividens, buybacks, and profit margins.
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Again, you are focusing on the "what is happening" instead of where the real focus should be, "why is it happening?" Everybody can see what is happening, the why portion is a bit more nuanced. But that doesn't fit your narrative and I'm not really interested in trying to change that.
 
highslice said:
Again, you are focusing on the "what is happening" instead of where the real focus should be, "why is it happening?" Everybody can see what is happening, the why portion is a bit more nuanced. But that doesn't fit your narrative and I'm not really interested in trying to change that.
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Lenin called them useful idiots…
 
highslice said:
Again, you are focusing on the "what is happening" instead of where the real focus should be, "why is it happening?" Everybody can see what is happening, the why portion is a bit more nuanced. But that doesn't fit your narrative and I'm not really interested in trying to change that.
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Russia invaded Ukraine to try to test the Western alliances of Europe and NATO and rebuild the glory of the 'ol USSR all under the support of Red China? China wants to increase its global influence and a weakened Europe/USA/NATO is what it needs to draw attention away from its struggles at home with its MFG based economy?

While we watch Ukraine there is another battle going on in Africa attempting to divide up Cobalt and other key minerals for the new economy and lithium battery tech.

And that is the real why. Our global economy is evolving and the increase in technology, information, alternative energy sources, and automation are shaping the next centuries power centers while we struggle to let go of the industries of influence of the last century. Things change, and many cant handle the change.

Oil companies are forced to have fiduciary discipline. Ever notice how most tech companies are not and have ridiculous multipliers? Investors and equity know what industries are dying and which have grand potential..

I get it, automation and technology are displacing many peoples jobs and income. The consumers of the world still demand more. Even though people have access to information and communicate on a global level like never before, many of our core problems still exist.

Like any period of grand change, there are winners and losers. We seem to have measured that in the past by the amount of wealth you accumulate or yacht's you own. We can all agree there is a lot more wealth and people own a lot more yachts. There is money and wealth to be made and boats to buy.

Unless you are a Russian oligarch, you may have watched the number of yachts you own get reduced recently.
 
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That must be why Biden shut down the Copper and Nickel exploration in MN, cuzz things are a changin’. :rolleyes: Those minerals aren’t needed for EV’s (for instance but not limited too)
 
Smashpjp said:
Russia invaded Ukraine to try to test the Western alliances of Europe and NATO and rebuild the glory of the 'ol USSR all under the support of Red China? China wants to increase its global influence and a weakened Europe/USA/NATO is what it needs to draw attention away from its struggles at home with its MFG based economy?

While we watch Ukraine there is another battle going on in Africa attempting to divide up Cobalt and other key minerals for the new economy and lithium battery tech.

And that is the real why. Our global economy is evolving and the increase in technology, information, alternative energy sources, and automation are shaping the next centuries power centers while we struggle to let go of the industries of influence of the last century. Things change, and many cant handle the change.

Oil companies are forced to have fiduciary discipline. Ever notice how most tech companies are not and have ridiculous multipliers? Investors and equity know what industries are dying and which have grand potential..

I get it, automation and technology are displacing many peoples jobs and income. The consumers of the world still demand more. Even though people have access to information and communicate on a global level like never before, many of our core problems still exist.

Like any period of grand change, there are winners and losers. We seem to have measured that in the past by the amount of wealth you accumulate or yacht's you own. We can all agree there is a lot more wealth and people own a lot more yachts. There is money and wealth to be made and boats to buy.

Unless you are a Russian oligarch, you may have watched the number of yachts you own get reduced recently.
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Russian oligarch's are the only ones I see having their yachts confiscated. As for the rest of your post, meh.
 
I’ll bet we don’t know the half of it in Ukraine

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it’s hard to believe this is happening and we are all standing around watching

well except Biden he just sanctioned Putin’s kids :rolleyes:
 
So … you wait until Russia invades before you sanction them. Then a while later you sanction them again. Then Biden gets on tv and says sanctions don’t deter. Then there is a fake cease fire so you sanction them again?

I don’t know…. I am starting to think Biden does this to look like he is doing something in the media…. Call me crazy

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