Previous, Present and Prospective?

magstang1

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May 30, 2010
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Lake St.Clair
Boat Info
1998 31 Sedan Bridge
Engines
Twin 350 Marine Power
What was your previous boat? What is your present boat? What is your desired, next boat?

What are your likes and dislikes?

What is your primary use of your boat?

If you could start all over, what would you do differently?



I started with a 21' cuddy cabin Powerquest with a single 350 Mag and an Alpha One. It was a great boat. I owned it for about seven years before I moved up. I trailered for a couple years and eventually found a cheap wet slip and kept it in the water for the last few years I owned it. It seemed I used it more if I didn't have to drag it to the lake. It was mainly a day boat for cruising the lake, tubing and wakeboarding.

Pros: Inespensive to operate and maintain. I could cruise all weekend on 40 gallons.

Cons: Let's face it. It was a 21 foot boat. Space was at a premium.

I knew we wanted a larger boat and with the addition of my son, it was time to move up.

I purchased a 97 Sea Ray 280 SunSport with twin 5.7s and Alpha Ones. I owned it for about two years and job uncertainty forced me to sell it. I loved the enormous cockpit area. The large wet bar behing the helm seat with the refrigerator up top was the key to the boat. The counter was large enough to place my grill on, and serve dinner once it was prepared. I had the version with the straight rear bench as opposed to the rounded one. I liked the fact that your could board from the dock and not need to step on the seat. It also left room to keep a cooler for the extended day trips. The straight rear seat was also a great fishing platform. Lots of access to the water.

Pro's: Huge cockpit. I could comfortably take 8 adults and a few kids out. Enclosed head that was just large enough to do your business. Large wet bar and refirgerator up top.

Cons: Small cabin, and no mid berth. Twin 5.7s was really overkill for this boat. It was a strong running boat, but thirsty. This was one of the considerations when selling. I felt that for the operating and maintenance costs, I could be in a considerably larger boat. No extended swim platform. It would have cost nearly $2,000 just to purchase an aftermarket platform. The swim platform that was molded into the boat was generous, but did not cover the outdrives.

All of which leads to one of life's great mysteries... Which boat next?

My eyes like the mid 90s 330, but my wallet gets nervous. I also like the late 90s 310. I think this would be a good compromise of space and operating costs. The cockpit is very generous. The cabin is managable for two adults and two kids for the weekend. All of the desired options are available. Generator, a/c, v drives...

I don't want to take too small of a next step, however, I want to be able to afford to enjoy it as well. Another concern is watersports. How large of a boat is too large to pull a tube? I realize wakeboarding is out.

Realistically I'm probably between a 280 and a 310 next.

I've spent countless hours reading, dreaming, and contemplating.

Any input?
 
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My previous were mostly runabouts ]and bassboats
now my weekendre
My next will be a 390/400ec for sure
 
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Previous-colman canoe
Present- 1986 300DB and a 20' Woolridge Xtra Plus jetboat
Fishing, fishing and .......fishing

Desirable: 40-50 Marine Trader, Californian or simalr trawler type.
 
My present boat is my first one. 2011 280 Sundeck.

Future boat. I would like a 370 Sundancer for staying out on the lake overnight.

I love the Sundeck and it is a lot of fun for pulling tubes. Really don't see upgrading for maybe 7 years unless I win the lottery.
 
In all likelihood my previous, present, and prospective boats are the same one which I currently own. If it fell off the trailer while rolling down the interstate I suppose a recent model 240 or 260 Sundeck would do quite nicely.
 
Previous boats 16' 25'bow riders 2002 300 sundancer current 2009 350 sundancer looking at 470 sundancer or 450 sedanbridge or an older 60 in fla for liveaboard for retirement
 
I purchased a 97 Sea Ray 280 SunSport with twin 5.7s and Alpha Ones.

Cons: Small cabin, and no mid berth. Twin 5.7s was really overkill for this boat. It was a strong running boat, but thirsty. This was one of the considerations when selling. I felt that for the operating and maintenance costs, I could be in a considerably larger boat. No extended swim platform. It would have cost nearly $2,000 just to purchase an aftermarket platform. The swim platform that was molded into the boat was generous, but did not cover the outdrives.

All of which leads to one of life's great mysteries... Which boat next?
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The 5.7's are NOT overkill on that boat :) You have been reading about too many 28DA owners who think 35 mph is just dandy with a pair of V6's at WOT :) (ok. . I made that last part up!!)


I do agree that the cabin area on the 280SS boat was a bit pathetic. So here is the question: What do you want? Are you still talking dayboating or are you talking weekending aboard?

If dayboating. . .you ain't gonna beat the 280SS, unless you grab a Formula 280SS or 310SS.

If you need a cabin. . then, yes, you are looking at choices like you listed.

But one serious thought: In what way are your operating costs gonna go down with any of the choices you mentioned? Most of my operating expenses revolve around insurance and out-of-water maintenance (oil changes, tuneups, outdrive maintenance). All of that is driven by the simple fact you have TWO engines in all of these boats. Unless you go single, or go with a boat big enough to have V-drives instead of outdrives, you ain't gonna save any operating costs. I am not convinced that you are gonna save any fuel costs with a bigger boat that has smaller motors. To me. . .those motors just have to work harder all the time and will wear out sooner.

And let's face it. . .those 1990's boats are not getting any younger. Maintenance is where it is at with these boats. Sure. .. up front costs are low enough to make the effort worthwhile -> but you are going spend money in the bilge.


My next boat? Who knows. I really, really like the cockpit layout of what I got. I have to go substantially larger to get a DA that equals my SS in that area; and frankly since I do just dayboat, the extra coin in capital is not worth it to upgrade. If I had to replace tomorrow; considering that the 280SS's really are scarce in recent years, I probably would look at the Formula cuddies.
 
Comsnark:

My dream is to be a live aboard. That's not going to happen any time soon.

In reality I am a day boater with the occasional weekend here and there. This is the downfall of the 280SS. The cabin is too small for 4 people. That's why I was looking at slightly larger dancers. It's not until you get to 33ish that you get comparable cockpit space. That's a ton more boat though, and I don't think I'm ready for that step.

Another 280SS just popped up for sale in my back yard. It's has the layout I prefer, but this one is a single 7.4...

I may have to take a look.

My wife has her eye on a formula 33SS.

I guess I should have kept what I had.
 
Previous: 1973 Reinell 16.5' closed-bow runabout w/50hp Evinrude
Current: 2004 Sea Ray 180SP (3.0L Alpha One)
Next: Nothing planned, but a 240-280 Sundancer would be lovely...

We mostly used the Reinell for fishing, as it didn't have the HP to tow skiers or wakeboarders. The 180 does everything we need it to do now, including allow for us to go fishing. The Sea Ray was an order-of-magnitude leap forward from the Reinell, but you'd expect that over 30 years.

The only thing I wish I had on the 180 is an extended swim platform (to fish from as well as ski/board from), and it'll likely be an upgrade item eventually.

My spouse is a fishing widow, so the 180 was a great compromise. The 240-280 would be wonderful looking forward, but it's too much boat for us right now. I think in a perfect world, we'd keep both the 180 and the Dancer.

We still have the Reinell, but it's been given back to my Dad as thanks for all the years of support.
 
previous a 17' 4winns bowrider with a 90hp Johnson. Ran WOT all the time with the boat airbound half the time. Next was a Searay 215EC, loved that boat. Big boat feel in a 21' package though a little underpowered with a 5.0L. Only sold it because the wife wanted to go bigger (afraid of the water). Only boat on my short list was a 280SS. Traveled 300+ miles to get the one I have. Truly no better day boat out there. Love everything about it since we do not overnight except for the extra maintenance with the twins but a worthwhile hardship. Not sure that my next boat would be bigger. Might just keep this one until the wife finally swears off boating then downsize to something really easy to maintain. The Formula SS line is spectacular but the 280SS is not a better dayboat than this one. Skinnier beam.
 
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Previous was a 2010 Bayliner 185BR.
Current SeaRay 240 Sundancer.

Using for overnighting with the Family and Raftup with friends.

Would like to move into a 340 Sundancer or something in that range in about 2 years.
 
Previous
2003 Yamaha Twin Engine Jet boat

Current after 7 years of nothing
2007 260DA
Picked this up in April
Trading in at end of year for 320DA
 
Heres where I get laughed at. :grin:

1985 14ft Baysinker .

1984 16ft Baysh*tter

1987 21ft Bayholer

1987 30ft Sea Ray

Now a 1986 21ft Sea Ray. :smt001
 
Present boat is my first boat, 320 Sundancer. I love its styling and blue hull color except for the associated maintenance costs. I love that it is small enough to get into almost any anchorage, harbor, or channel but big enough to cross 25 miles of open Paciifc Ocean. I don't love the fuel economy or having gas engines, I think I would prefer diesel next time. I don't love the V berth for sleeping two, but it works for a night and I don't love the fact there are no separate cabins below.

Next boat the list would be long, but realistically, it would have to be 40' or so to keep from stepping up too much on slip costs in my expensive year round market, have a queen size bed, and a two separate cabins for weekend trips. Cost not an issue I would want a Carver 450 Voyager or a Selene, Nordhaven, or Mainship trawler.
 
Comsnark:

My dream is to be a live aboard. That's not going to happen any time soon.

In reality I am a day boater with the occasional weekend here and there. This is the downfall of the 280SS. The cabin is too small for 4 people. That's why I was looking at slightly larger dancers. It's not until you get to 33ish that you get comparable cockpit space. That's a ton more boat though, and I don't think I'm ready for that step.

Another 280SS just popped up for sale in my back yard. It's has the layout I prefer, but this one is a single 7.4...

I may have to take a look.

My wife has her eye on a formula 33SS.

I guess I should have kept what I had.

Well. . . if I had to buy a boat tomorrow, I would avoid a 280 SS simply because I would want something "different". :) Also, as I said above, most of those boats are now older than I would typically target for a boat purchase.

So . . .the Formula 33SS would be a definate candidate. heh.

My way of thinking is that a single big block in a 280SS would result in an underpowered boat. . .but that's my "3800 rpm = 40mph" mentality talking. However, the 7.4 would definately drive your maintenance costs down. Only one outdrive (although it would be the more persnickity BIII); only 8 plugs; only one oil change. Not sure if it would drop fuel costs significantly.
 
Previous boats: 1991 20' Reinell bowrider with a 5.0L, then 1996 330 Sundancer with twin 5.7's and v-drives, another 1996 330 Sundancer with twin 5.7's and v-drives after the first one got totaled by a drunk boater.
Current boat: 1995 550 Sedan Bridge
Future boat: Possibly a 280 Sundancer with twin 4.3L's when I got too old to operate the 550.

PRO's: The Reinell was great for water sports when we had kids at home. The 330's were great after the kids left and we could do some longer cruises. The 550 gives us more room, brings us up out of the cave, and provides a lot more comfort for long cruises. (I'm sitting on it right now in Portland, OR where we've come on a 12 day cruise.

CONS: No real cons on the Reinell or the Sundancers. All three were great boats and we had a lot of fun on them.
CON on the 550: More maintenance, more batteries to maintain and replace, higher moorage cost.

We've put over 250 hours on the 550 in less than two years so I guess we've gotten our money's worth out of it. By the time 2 years ownership rolls around on August 1, we'll probably have put close to 300 hours on.
 
My parents always had a 16' ski boat with 80hp OB.....I always wanted a Glastron Carlson so I bought the CV-23 15 years ago. Great cuddy cabin boat with lots of style and runs 55mph on gps with a 350/260hp Alpha1. I have a slip but she is a trailer queen and a weekend only in the water boat. She is great for skiing & tubing and taking a nap out of the sun....but not a real overnighter. We wanted a bigger boat to handle bigger water since the CV-23 is a shallow V and also wanted a boat with bottom paint to leave in the water. I first started looking at go fast 272 Formulas with twin 350's. The only issue was it was still a 5 person boat with a small cabin & no shower. With gas prices rising and the want for a real cabin, a sport cruiser was the answer. We did not plan to sell the CV-23 so we still had a ski boat and a quick ride! I found the cabin layout and size of the 1990 270DA larger than other sport cruisers and I love the sport arch/lighting and the camper back. The 270 with a 454 Bravo1 is not easy on gas but I'm not feeding twins either plus it's a 4 ton wave crusher. Since owning the 270, the only other trailerable boat I still like is the 1989-91 280 DA with twin 350's. A little wider and room available for twins! 9ft beam vs. 10.5ft beam does not bother me since I trailer a small amount. After waxing the 27+ft boat, I'm not really interested in maintaining more at this point. 1mpg is the only draw-back with the 270 because the CV-23 gets 4mpg so I have the best of both worlds I guess and but have two V8s to maintain and or a back-up boat, Mike.

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Previous.- 1990 280 Sundancer. Perfect for two as we were sans children then. Best part was the beam made the cabin roomy. Big V-berth very comfortable.

Current- 1997 330 Sundancer. V-Drives are great. V-Berth is comfortable. Dinette is really useful and converts to a great double berth. Extended swim platform.

Next - 480DB or some type of bridge boat. Also diesels. We shall see.
 
First boat was a "Koma" 14foot sailboat when I was 14. Okay, it was Dad's, but I was the only one who sailed it!

First boat was a 24 Doral, 1991. That was 2003. Great 5.7 with a Bravo 1. That boat ran great but with an 8.6 beam, didn't handle the big water of Lake Ontario well. When the dog puked, the Admiral said we need a bigger boat. I said "well if we have to..."

2004, bought a 1992 Thompson Santa Cruz. Twin 5.7s with Bravo 2 legs. This boat had an 11' 6" beam, 32 1/2 LOA, nice cockpit area with a swivel cockpit curved bench, fridge in the cockpit and dual controls which I love. Downstairs there was lots of room, great sized head, adequate galley and nice sleeping quarters with a bow cuddy and queen aft. I did a lot of work over the 8 years we had her...beauty boat.

This year, picked up a 95 370 Sundancer. We know the boat well as it has been in our marina in Kelowna, BC for the last 6 years. The PO was a stickler for mechanical maintenance. Water pumps, risers, exhaust and tune ups all done prior to us owning it. I have to admit he could've been a bit better at waxing and general cleaning, but we can handle that.

What do we like? Way more room to hold Janet and I, the kids and our 2 grandsons. What don't I like? Have to replace canvas that I didn't expect to have to do until next year and the size of the gas tanks!

Next boat? Probably 50-55 feet with diesels for a live aboard when I retire. Maybe I'll by GFC's 560 when he's done with it! At least I'll know it has been treated well.

Mark
 
PRESENT:
18' open bow Starcraft Montego (Vintage) Changing over from OMC to merc engine and outdrive.
2355 Bayliner
310DA
14ft fishing boat (and I don't fish)

PAST:
18' Chysler
18' Starcraft
19' Thompson (wood)
14' Something I can't remember
14" Cadilac
And a few others in between.

Future:
Think I am done.
2355 is verbally sold and should be picked up Thursday.
Starcraft goes to my son if it ever gets finished. (Bigger job than I thought).
310DA should last me the rest of my boating life.
Fishing boat. (Who cares) Just around the property if I need to work on the pumps in my ponds.
 

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