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[Xplicitlnck]

I figured instead of asking about navigating specific locations along the new york and new jersey shorelines we could incorporate all the trouble spots, submerged objects, shoaling, channel changes ect. Into one threat so we can all look and keep a list.
Any and all information on the gsb and fire island inlet would be most helpfull. So please if you have information do share
So far I have a few

1. Hudson canal freeport ny
Sumberged piling sticking up about a foot above the water at mean tide in front of jones inlet marina.
This is my marina and I have yet to see it but they keep calling it out on 22.
2. As posted by mark l
For my Nassau neighbors, Sea Dog Creek where it intersects with Reynolds by Marina West looked very narrow and shallower than last year. It also appeared that several buoys were off station.
3.as posted by rcmafgny
I was in the state channel this weekend from jones - tobay. Its the same as last year.A green can is missing from the mouth of the lindenhurst cut... need to be careful there as there always was shoaling.

 

[Mark I]

Was out and about fishing on Sunday. From my slip on Freeport Creek, out Swift Creek to Jones and up the state channel to the golf course. Nothing unusual but you can see a lot of debris up in the marshes. Have not been out Jones since November but hearing of additional shoaling and breakers where they did not used to be at low tide.

The Wreck Leads Bridge aka the Long Beach LIRR RR Bridge is functioning but they seem to be keeping it down unless hailed.

Robski reported on another site that the Broad Creek Channel is shoaled into Merrick.

 

[Xplicitlnck]

I ran out Jones inlet last weekend. Nothing to unusual except the breakers as you said but its so far west of the inlet you should not be near it at all unless your close to shore.

 

[Havana Shamrock]

21 March 2013


NY: Long Island, Moriches Bay, shoaling
Reported By: Ted Stehle (WG Staff)


The following is from the CG 1st District NTM 12/13.


Shoaling has been reported in Moriches Bay along the Long Island Intercoastal Waterway in the vicinity of Moriches Bay Buoy 17,18, 21, 26, 27,
28 and 29 extending the entire width of the channel and at any tide level. The shoaling has resulted in reported depths less than one foot at high
tide. Shoaling is also reported in Moriches Inlet in the vicinity of Moriches Inlet East Cut Buoys 3E and 5E. Mariners should be aware that the Aids to Navigation in these areas have been deemed unreliable due to shoaling and mariners are advised to seek alternate routes. If transiting these areas, do so only at high tide and proceed slowly and with extreme caution.

 

[tdschafer]

Wow, that sounds bad. We might be better off heading out the new inlet!! Lol


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[Xplicitlnck]

Hey tod looks like were running the ocean to shinnecock inlet for the block trip. It was bad last year cant imagine how bad it is now

 

[rcmafgny]

Hmm if that is the case, how do we get to westhampton ? doesnt make a lot of sense to backtrack..........

 

[tdschafer]

Why haven't they dredged that area and how is the Coast Guard getting in & out of the Moriches station?

Ron,
I agree with you. I can't see heading all the way back to Jones inlet. So far I've heard nothing good about Fire Island inlet. This is ridiculous!


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[shinsr]

Todd - I know a captain who rAn a 36db from ct to Lindenhurst inside the whole way. Hit Moriches at perfect high tide - made it through, went slow, said one low spot at buoy 17a where they bumped but got right over. I would contact seatow out there and try to get there version.

 

[tdschafer]

Thanks Russ. I'll give that a shot as we get closer to the trip!


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[saopm]

I heard the channel going into Watch Hill is shallow. Also read funding was approved to dredge it in October along with Sailors Haven. I might head over there this weekend. If I do I’ll let you know what I find.

 

[tdschafer]

Thanks! I definitely want to hear about that since that's where I spend most of my time! The Friends Of Watch Hill newsletter hasn't mentioned channel issues. I wonder if they are aware?


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[Havana Shamrock]

That 36db is now at my marina , met the owner I'm going to ask about the trip.


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[shinsr]

Todd
Had someone with me on my trip east who has already been at WH. Said the channel is very bad - Said the shermans have advised the park service that they may not run ferry's if they won't dredge. Similar to mentioned above, park service will not touch until the fall. Not good news for WH.

 

[tdschafer]

Russ,

That is not good news. Looks like I will be spending more time at Davis Park this year, unless I hear similar reports on their channel. Thanks for the update.

Todd

 

[Havana Shamrock]

I heard that the CG. Is using WH as a base because theirs got destroyed, any truth in that?

 

[rpasquarello]

I snuck over to SH last weekend from my slip at Timber Point and walked the forest trail and beach with my kids. I think I pissed off the dockmaster/concession guy who saw me when we were leaving since (a) I ignored the "closed" signs and (b) I tied up in one of the empty Park Service slips. I know he has a job to do, but he was not Mr. Personality last season, either.

The water and electric were still turned off and the West Dock was still undergoing some repairs. Lots of debris stacked and waiting to be barged out. West side of the dock was noticeably uneven. Also, no pumpout or gas appeared working at the Timber Point East marina. At least one of the 2 gas docks on the river itself are no longer there-- the whole bulkhead was missing from the end. The river also seemed shallower to me and the guys with their damned traps already are dropping them in at the very fringes of the marked fish-trap areas on the charts by the TP marina entrances.

 

[saopm]

Doesn't look like there will be a gas dock at Oakdale for a while. They were asking people on Facebook to send a letter to the DEC to get their permits to rebuild expedited.

 

[rpasquarello]

Marvelous...

 

[saopm]

Watch Hill Update – No power and no access to the beach yet. Both are expected to be available by the Holiday weekend. At full high tide the lowest depth I saw was 3.9’ near the cut into the marina. That depth is recorded from the bottom of my boat so you can add a foot to 18”. Dock master said to stay closer to the reds as the channel narrowed and take the turn into the marina wide. Dredging is expected in the fall and they might even clean out the marina while they are at it.