Possible new Searay Owner, a few questions

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  1. dvx216

    dvx216 Well-Known Member SILVER Sponsor

    Feb 1, 2012
    orrville,ohio
    2000 310 sundancer 5.7 vdrives






















    n/a
    twin 5.7 300 Hp. V drives
    You have not mentioned if you are going to do your on wrenching but if not one thing to consider is any thing under 30' will have out drives Two motors two out drives.With that said if you don't plan on doing your own mechanic work stepping up to a 30' sundancer will eliminate the out drive with prop and rudder which is a whole lot less maintenance.
     
    Last edited: Jul 29, 2016
  2. reno55

    reno55 New Member

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    Jul 28, 2016
    Cleveland, Ohio
    Boatless
    Boatless
    We were not looking at 30' but now that you say lot less maintenance how much less trouble are we talking?


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  3. Strecker25

    Strecker25 Well-Known Member

    Nov 20, 2014
    Rochester, NY
    1998 290 Sundancer
    Twin 5.7EFI/Alphas, Kohler 4kw
    I have twin alpha I/O's. It wasn't a deal breaker for us, but I can tell you my next boat will be inboards. I take the drives off every fall and just bring them home so I can take my time with maintenance in a warm basement. I split the halves, replace the impellers, reassemble and pressure test, refill with fresh lube, clean the exterior surfaces and repaint the drive. If the zinc's are bad, they get replaced as well.

    Some of this maintenance would apply to transmissions as well (fluid changes, cooler and hose inspections, impeller replacement)

    That being said, I just blew a lower on the starboard side. Not saying transmissions don't go, but I have grown to despise I/O's.
     
  4. dvx216

    dvx216 Well-Known Member SILVER Sponsor

    Feb 1, 2012
    orrville,ohio
    2000 310 sundancer 5.7 vdrives






















    n/a
    twin 5.7 300 Hp. V drives
    It is not as much as trouble as it is care. If you spend a little time in preventative maintenance with an outdrive which is changing the oil every season to check for seal leaks and inspecting your main bellows and cable bellows then you stay ahead of any failures and expensive repair bills.With a rudder style boat you have shaft bearings and shaft and rudder seals and the shifting part is on the inside of the boat and a separate component. All my boats have had outdrives and its just part of owning a boat either you are willing to get your hands dirty and learn how to take care of your boat or you can pay someone to do it for you but the more you do yourself the better off you are and the more money you will have at the end of the day. I'm a do it yourself guy so I cannot tell you what it cost.
     
  5. dpmulvey

    dpmulvey New Member

    Dec 19, 2007
    Homeport: Charles City, VA
    1999/2007 330 Sundancer Hardtop.
    6.2 Merc Horixons
    1.5:1 Velvet Drives
    Payments = $600
    Insurance = $100
    Slip = $200
    Electricity = $60
    Misc = $40
     
  6. dpmulvey

    dpmulvey New Member

    Dec 19, 2007
    Homeport: Charles City, VA
    1999/2007 330 Sundancer Hardtop.
    6.2 Merc Horixons
    1.5:1 Velvet Drives
    What has not been mentioned here is insurance.

    Regarding insurance, look hard. Many companies are reluctant to insure a boat over "X" years old. It's not so much the age of the hull. It's the age of the innards. They are paying more attention to ABYC standards and recommendations.

    For example: A 20 year old boat with original fuel hoses may not cut it to an insurance company. We did not use ethanol 20 years ago and the hoses were not built for it. Add to that the environment the hose lives in. IIRC, ABYC recommends 15 years max on the life of a hose. I cannot fathom getting to hoses the way most boats are built, let alone replacing them.
     
  7. boatman37

    boatman37 Well-Known Member

    Jun 6, 2015
    pittsburgh
    2006 Crownline 250CR
    Previous: 1986 Sea Ray 250 Sundancer
    5.7 Merc
    research your area. these figures are a little steep for our area. our slip fees are about $42/foot and an extra $15/month electric or $30/month with A/C. for our 25' boat (27' overall) it is about $1400 for the season, or about $120/month. we don't put that many hours on ours (maybe 10 hours per month as we find a nice spot and drop anchor).

    slip: 120
    fuel: 100-150
    insurance: 30
    misc: 50-100
    off season storage: 40

    works out to around $500/month. seems high now that i tallied it up but most of that is paid in lump sums (insurance, storage fees, and slip fees). take those out and we spend about 150-250/month. granted we haven't had any large repairs and i do most of the work myself. that being said, we are thinking about something in the 29-30' range next and the thoughts of twin engines has me a little nervous...$$$$$$
     
  8. dwna1a

    dwna1a Well-Known Member PLATINUM Sponsor

    Apr 23, 2012
    James River
    88 Weekender 300 "Seahorse"
    Twins 350
    Damn David, we gotta get you down to Jamestown At least you'd be closer to the bay!
    Covered slip $2000.00 per year
    elec $35 per month
    State Farm $45 per month
    Bourbon Supplies $65 per month
     

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