Poor Man's AC Unit

Alibuma

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Jun 24, 2009
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Hudson, WI
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250 Sundancer, 1973
Glastron GT-140
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350 Merc
So, I am not sure I even have a need for AC but the thought sure is nice. The cost and power requirements for typical AC units seem extreme and thats probably the biggest reason I am willing to live without (until I can afford my next, bigger boat). I dont have a generator to power the typical AC units and we're not always on the dock in the middle of the day when it's the hottest.

I used to be into skiboats and have installed a few HeaterCraft heaters in my day. For those who dont know what those are, its basically a small radiator (liquid to air heat exchanger) with a blower fan. Hot water from the engine is pumped through the radiator and the blower fan blows air over the hot radiator to push the heat into the cabin. My thought for a poor man's AC unit is to pump seawater through the unit instead of hot water. The lakes and rivers in the northern climates here can reach high 70's in the peak of summer but are typically 10-15 degrees cooler than that most of the year. If a person really wanted to go the extra step, they could extend the pickup tube down 5 or 6 feet into the cooler water. http://www.heatercraft.com/Category.aspx?CategoryID=15

A quick google search and as it turns out, cities are using this technique for their central plants. They suck cold seawater out of the ocean, exchange the cool for the heat from a separate closed loop system that is pumped to the buildings. This works much like our hot water heaters in our boats work, but again, in reverse. It cools instead of heats. http://www.makai.com/p-swac.htm

I really do want to add the HeaterCraft Heater and it might hard to resist the itch try this idea out if I did install the heater. Like I said, I dont know if I really have a need for AC but lets just say I get the itch, does anyone have any more thoughts on this? :huh:
 
It will work, all you need to do is get the intake line below the local thermocline. The efficiency of such a setup is another subject altogether.
 
Unless the temperature differential between the interior air temp and the water temp is great, I don't see it being really effective.

Doug
 
Save your money, it won't work. Heating is NOT like cooling. Best case scenario your boat will feel like your grandmothers cool damp basement.
Warm moist air contains sensible heat, the heat you measure with a thermometer, and latent heat, or hidden heat, contained in the water molecules as vapor. This heat needs lower temperatures (more energy) in order for the water vapor to change it's state and "leave" the air. This is the condensation you see coming from window AC units and dripping from beneath your car. Real chilled water systems cool water to the 42-45 degree range. This is the temperature needed to produce coil temperatures low enough to remove this latent heat and dehumidify the air.
 
If you're only looking for a few hours of "coolness" during the heat of the day, you might consider one of these:
http://www.mmair.com/marine_division/air_conditioning/5_200_btu_system

I'd be hesitant to recommend for FL, but for WI it should do the job on a 25 cuddy. It will run off a sizeable battery bank (depending on the run time you're looking for) and an inverter when away from the dock.
 
Thanks for the replies. Not sure that I will try it after reading what's written, but it's a neat thought. I think it's really interesting they're able to use this to cool entire cities.
 
Thanks for the replies. Not sure that I will try it after reading what's written, but it's a neat thought. I think it's really interesting they're able to use this to cool entire cities.

Not happening. Look at the water temperature chart vs ocean depth. First off, how many office buildings you know of that are at the oceans edge? How far offshore does the piping have to run to reach a depth where the water is cold enough to do any work? Any idea how much brake horsepower is required to move enough sea water from a depth of 2000ft to a remotely located building? How about the heat added by the pumps and pipe friction? How about the heat gained as the cooler water passes through the surrounding warmer water on its way to the surface?

It's a wet dream
 
Hey oldskool. ive got one of those in the back window of my truck. It works pretty well.
 
Don't usse sea water. Use. Cooler of ice,with copper tubeing wraped around the inside of the cooler.run ur water through the tubeing on a constant loop.it will wwork for several hours...
 
this is the true poor man's ac unit...

http://www.kooleraire.com/

KoolerAire_Cooler.jpg
 

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