Opening a Link - Vista Idiosyncrasy

[rondds]

This is NOT a CSR problem but I thought this would be the proper forum to post the question.

When I get an email notification (they are working great now, btw!), and I click on the link to take me to CSR, the window opens small rather than full sized. :smt013 Annoying b/c now I have to maximize the window to make it viewable. I know, "BIG DEAL! One whole extra step." But that bugs me.

I'm running Vista on this machine. All my other pcs (8) run XP and, with XP, if you maximize the window that pops up, the next time you click on a link (any link) the window will open up maximized - ie: XP remembers your preference. Likewise, if you stretch the borders of the window to a particular size that suits you, XP will remember this as well. Vista does not remember, despite the fact that Microsoft Website's FAQs suggest it should. Any suggestions?

 

[fc3]

either

• Toss Vista and get Leopard, or
• Firefox

IE underperforms.

Best regards,
Frank C

 

[douglee25]

Right click on the IE icon in your system tray and go to properties. Under 'Run' make sure it's set to maximized.

Doug

 

[rondds]

Doug:
I switched to MAXIMIZE, clicked APPLY but prob persists.

Frank
I use Firefox often. However, some websites I need to access do not work with Firefox, particularly insurance company sites. But you're right - Firefox is better and it's much more easy and intuitive to customize.

Frank, YOU'RE BACK!!! I missed you!

Did you hear we're leaving GCM?

 

[dpvandy01]

Safari !!!!!!! and quite happy

 

[Four Suns]

buy a Mac.

 

[Uplate]

Vista 64 bit here (8 core, 24 gig of RAM)and I have no problems with IE maintaining previous sizing as well as screen postion. It maybe the way your Email software is handling the embeded Email link from CSR and not IE. I use Outlook, not Outlook Express.

If you want a machine to check Email, play with video and Internet, then a Mac may be for you. Oh, you could do the same on your cell phone.

But that Skateboard dude looks like a cool guy when put up against the pocket protector guy. Doesn't everyone want to be that Skateboard dude? Now thats a great reason to buy a Mac! Forget about raw scalability for serious computational power. Be the Skateboard Dude!

Sorry Gary, but that "buy a Mac" is so shallow I could not resist follwing up with some reality. But that discussion belongs in the holding Tank if continues I guess.

And now back to your normal boating channel... and Yes, I do won a few Mac's for people who only use them for Email and Internet only.

Mike

 

[Four Suns]

Sorry Gary, but that "buy a Mac" is so shallow I could not resist follwing up with some reality. But that discussion belongs in the holding Tank if continues I guess.

And now back to your normal boating channel... and Yes, I do won a few Mac's for people who only use them for Email and Internet only.

Yeah... My lack of computer skills made me go buy a mac...

 

[Uplate]

Yeah... My lack of computer skills made me go buy a mac...

So what do you use it for besides the Email and Internet stuff? I use mine for animation as there is no highend 3d Animation software written for the Mac (that is stable anyway). it is software that drives my hardware, not the other way around.

What do you do with it..professionally? or Hobbyist?

Just curious, not trying to start a Mac vs. PC war. thats a dead end subject if there ever was one!

Mike

 

[Four Suns]

What do you do with it..professionally? or Hobbyist?

Both. And the real kicker is... it doesn't crash.

Just curious, not trying to start a Mac vs. PC war. thats a dead end subject if there ever was one!

Couldn't agree more.

 

[Uplate]

Both. And the real kicker is... it doesn't crash.

I have also not seen a Windows OS crash in many years, much less the old Windows "Blue Screen of Death" from the old times. I have seen my software crash when running out of memory (which is why I am up to 24 gb of RAM). Do not believe those Mac Skateboard Dude Propaganda ads (they do not crash). They lock up instead of crash..which is the same thing to the user. I have seen it on my Macs. And they can get viruses as well.

Do you want to know why Macs are more crash proof?

Here is the real answer, and this is from people who write code and are software developers for major high end software.

"It is a little known fact that Mac inhibits all of its hardware at the BIOS to only use 60% of its rated high output level. This is what both makes it stable and less productive in high end computations."

So, if Windows hard coded its BIOS to do the same it would be as stable...but at a great performance decrease. So if you have a 3 ghz processor on a Mac, the most you can ever get is 1.8 ghz performance. the price you pay for "stability". Its all a smoke screen to those who do not know better and are able to measure real world performance.

OTOH, Windows allows full access to hardware at 100%, which can make it more unstable, depending on how the software is coded. A small fault in code can cause a crash. Most Windows developers take the hardware to the limit, and then back off. Some do not.

So your "speedy" Mac is stable only because it is hard throttled down to 60% at the core level. Put this scenario on your boat engines and decided which one you would prefer. I doubt you could even get on plane. So High Idle around and surf the net. Nasa does not use Macs.

Mike

 

[MExcelsior]

My list of first computers was an Atari, 8066, 386 SX16, 466DXII, Pentium, and all up to the current models. I sometimes sit in DOS... on the "command line" and start listing directories and moving files the old way for my kids benefit and they look at me in amazement like I'm some magical hacking god! : )

For the last 8 years, I have been using a PC to my left and a Mac to my right at work (back in the day when the mac had OS7.. used computer). I still use both the machines in front of me.

For me, which machine is better isn't even subjective anymore folks. 8 years ago, I spent about 10% of my time on the Mac... Nowadays, about 80%. It's just plain more productive for what I do..... period.

High end computation = 3 to 4 days crunching numbers.... only to have the crash happen at the 11th hour..... now that's what I call measuring real world performance with less productivity. : ) OSX core build on Unix = stability.

That being said, I still think Vista is a great operating system and remember, which operating system is preferred these days is really a matter of preference and familiarity. I am intimately familiar with both and I like my productivity on a Leopard better. (I think it is years ahead of Vista in terms of development and the automation/scripting features are incredible).

Also, I believe Nasa uses Macs every single day from 3-D imaging to the Cassini mission navigation in tandem with Linux.

Remember Mac hardware runs Linux, Vista and Leopard natively. If I was to use the analogy of boating, then I could have a houseboat, ski boat and cruiser in one vessel. : )

 

[Uplate]

"Remember Mac hardware runs Linux, Vista and Leopard natively. If I was to use the analogy of boating, then I could have a houseboat, ski boat and cruiser in one vessel. : ) "

Natively is relative. And at what speed costs? Windows on a Mac, is way slower than on a PC machine running 3DS Max and AutoCAD. Yes it can run it, although at a crippled speed (not to mentione constant license breaking). BootCamp seems to be too much overhead to keep up with native PC Machines. Multithreaded Windows apps on a Mac are well...useless waste of time just to say " I use a Mac".

One vessel maybe, but the sum is less than the performance of the tuned individual. A big price to pay when you sit and wait for rendering 20K frames of Hi Def 2K Animation files.

Your mileage may differ, but certainly not in my world.

And now..back to boating. I am depressed I started this discussion on this forum because someone said "buy a Mac" to make reading an embedded Email link work.

I am over it. We all use what works for us on an individual level.

Mike

 

[Four Suns]

Nasa does not use Macs.

Dude... I don't know where you get your information but that's just plain stupid talk. I worked at NASA for 14 years and used a Mac starting back in 1989 (used Tektronix terminals before that... card punch before that... pencil and paper before that..) and I know a bunch of people that work in the Computational Fluid Dynamics area there currently and all of them use either Macs or Linux boxes (some SGI boxes). Here's one of the paper's I wrote:

http://hdl.handle.net/2060/19940017012

Looks like NASA to me....

It was written on a Mac with FrameMaker, the mathematical analysis of wave propagation was done on a Mac with Mathematica (along with the figures in the paper), the CFD code was written in C on a Mac and then bumped up to a Cray supercomputer.

Natively is relative. And at what speed costs? Windows on a Mac, is way slower than on a PC machine running 3DS Max and AutoCAD. Yes it can run it, although at a crippled speed (not to mentione constant license breaking). BootCamp seems to be too much overhead to keep up with native PC Machines. Multithreaded Windows apps on a Mac are well...

There are several different ways to run Windows on a Mac. The most popular being to run it in a Virtual Machine (like VMware or Parallels). In fact, I think VMware is pretty popular on windows as well. You can also boot the Mac in Windows mode and everything runs native just like my favorite piece of crap Dell... In fact, my Mac laptop runs Windows faster than my Dell laptop (same vintage) when booted natively.

I can't be too critical on PCs I guess... after my NASA career I went and worked for a major PC security company with hundreds of developers plugging holes in the crappy MS operating systems and it got me my Sea Ray... so I'm thankful for that. I then worked in the mobile/wireless space bringing over .Net crap to handhelds.. yet another crappy thing (get an iPhone or BlackBerry). Now I'm out of all that and have been ridding myself of PCs. It's like trying to quit smoking (although I've never smoked).

Make this about boating? Hey... look at the Windows-based Sea Ray Navigator... there's a piece of stable hardware/software. I have a ruggedized PC on the bridge of my boat running Windows but I can't wait for the day to toss that into the drink and replace it with a Mac. I love it when people say their PC running windows never crashes... I guess I just kept getting bad PCs... The only time my wife ever reboots her Mac is when the power goes out or she runs Windows... that's about once every two years.

I think Apple's biggest achievement is taking Unix mainstream. Something to be said for that.... I used a Mac back in the System 6/7 days and we had an acronym for the machine back then:

Machine
Always
Crashes
If
Not
Then
Operating
System
Hangs

Fast forward 20 years and that's just not true now with OS X/Unix.

http://movies.apple.com/movies/us/apple/getamac/apple_getamac_pizzabox_20080818_480x272.mov

 

[mrsrobinson]

Doug:
I switched to MAXIMIZE, clicked APPLY but prob persists.

Frank
I use Firefox often. However, some websites I need to access do not work with Firefox, particularly insurance company sites. But you're right - Firefox is better and it's much more easy and intuitive to customize.

Frank, YOU'RE BACK!!! I missed you!

Did you hear we're leaving GCM?

86 Firefox, go to Chrome

 

[Uplate]

"
Nasa does not use Macs."

Well, of course they do .

Nice to see some background on you Gary.

Throttle Up!

Mike

 

[Four Suns]

That's it? No more arguing? What the hell is wrong with you?! Get back here and fight like a man!

 

[Morpheus]

Mac's are evil

Anyways to fix your maximize issue try this.

Close all browsers, open 1 single browser (it will probably not be maximized) and maximize it then close it. Then open it again and it should open as maximized.

 

[Pseudomind]

Try this. I know if the Internet Explorer window in XP opens up less then maximized. Open the window, in this case click on the image window after you hav opened it, and maximize it.

Now hold down the "alt" key and close the window click on the "X" in the upper right hand corner.

Now go back and try opening the window (the image file)

Know this works when one first opens the browser and it is not full screen, not sure about once the browser is open and you are opening a second instance of the window

 

[fc3]

Hey Ron!

I see your problem here.

Vista 64 bit here (8 core, 24 gig of RAM)and I have no problems with IE maintaining previous sizing as well as screen postion.

You don't have enough CPU cores nor enough memory for Vista to run the way you want it to run. You're going to have to upgrade.

"It is a little known fact that Mac inhibits all of its hardware at the BIOS to only use 60% of its rated high output level. This is what both makes it stable and less productive in high end computations."

So, if Windows hard coded its BIOS to do the same it would be as stable...but at a great performance decrease. So if you have a 3 ghz processor on a Mac, the most you can ever get is 1.8 ghz performance. the price you pay for "stability". Its all a smoke screen to those who do not know better and are able to measure real world performance.

So MacOS and Mac hardware must be hyper-efficient considering that 60% CPU hold-back, since they benchmark with the same software (Photoshop for example) about the same as an equivalent PC.

Then there was the PC Magazine article that found that "The fastest windows Vista notebook we tested this year is a Mac." Imagine a computer where the CPU is forced idle 40% of the time that out performs others without that handicap.

I'm not religious about computers. I have Sun workstations, PCs, Linux boxes, and Macs at home. I made a lot of money selling engineering workstations with Windows NT as an alternative to Suns and SGIs. We even had a source code license for Microsoft's operating systems, so I've seen the internals as well.

I like the Macs because they just work. I don't spend any time doing sys admin crap with them. Less wasted time means more billable hours and that's the name of the game.

Best regards,
Frank C