Ok - another burning question I have - Pump Out

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  1. my3sons

    my3sons Well-Known Member SILVER Sponsor

    Feb 24, 2009
    Summers- NY (Lake Erie), Winters- Somewhere Warm
    2004 400DB, Onan 9 kw Gen, Highfield RIB,
    Cummins 6CTA
    I am getting ready to rehose the sanitary system. No smells and no leaks, I use the No-flex.
    The boat has MPI black sanitary hose and the outside of the hose is starting to get cracks.
    I bought a 50' roll of Trident 101, it was backordered and just showed up so the misery begins soon.
     
  2. sbw1

    sbw1 Well-Known Member

    Oct 10, 2006
    West Michigan
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    Why are you replacing it?
     
  3. Jus the two of us

    Jus the two of us Member GOLD Sponsor

    94
    Dec 7, 2015
    United States Lake Cumberland
    1998 Sundancer 450
    3116 Cats
    Done ours 2 years ago and a big difference it was. No old boat smell at all now. Have a heat gun ready, You will need to warm it a bit to get it on fittings and make a bend. 85 feet of it in a 450, Clamps in places that are hard to find.
     
  4. Woody

    Woody Well-Known Member PLATINUM Sponsor

    Nov 20, 2007
    N. Wisconsin/Lk Superior
    2005 420DA
    Cummins 6CTA8.3
    I think pumping out is best whenever we can vs an overboard discharge. Depending on what systems those folks on your lake have they may be legal though.

    MARINE SANITATION DEVICES

    (KRS 235:420)

    Motorboats with marine toilets are not allowed on public waters unless the toilet is equipped with a Type I, II or III marine sanitation device (MSD.) Type I and II MSDs chemically treat sewage. Type III MSDs are holding tanks for raw sewage.

    Raw sewage shall not be discharged in any public waters. Treated sewage may be discharged from a marine toilet into legal “discharge” waters. Those waters are Barkley and Kentucky lakes, Lake Cumberland and any of the major river systems. Type I and II MSDs must be sealed or locked while the vessel is on “no discharge” waters.
    https://fw.ky.gov/FishBoatGuide/Pages/Boating.aspx
     
  5. b_arrington

    b_arrington Active Member GOLD Sponsor

    958
    Feb 21, 2007
    Setauket, NY
    2018 Back Cove 34
    Cummins QSB 6.7 480
    We have both self-service and full-service in Port Jefferson harbor on Long Island. All of Long Island Sound and any connecting waters is a No Discharge Zone.

    The Town of Brookhaven provides operates free-of-charge pump out boat that roams Port Jeff and Mount Sinai harbors on weekends. They do everything; we tip the college-age operators $5. The pump out boat is usually VERY busy.

    The town also provides self service locations: a pump out "barge" in Port Jeff and a dock-based station in Mount Sinai. The barge is horrible. Hard to dock at, nearly impossible to use with a manual pump and fittings that are basically useless. As the pump-out kid told me: if the barge actually worked I'd be out of a job.

    The Mount Sinai dock based station is OK. It works, but you have to get the harbor tower to come down and turn on the system. It's fairly easy to use and straight forward, but getting it turned on is a pain.
     
  6. Jus the two of us

    Jus the two of us Member GOLD Sponsor

    94
    Dec 7, 2015
    United States Lake Cumberland
    1998 Sundancer 450
    3116 Cats
    They have holding tanks, Type III, Not legal to discharge. Adding No Flex or something else to a holding tank and saying that is treatment to discharge in wrong. A few big fines from the authority's will stop this.
     
  7. JVM225

    JVM225 Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    Apr 8, 2008
    Farmingdale, NY
    2002 410 Sundancer, Monaco Edition.
    3126 Cats.
    Several free self service pumpouts to choose from around here. The local towns provide them.
    Two of the three towns in the immediate area provide the service of free pump out boats too. One in a local town marina and the other in a popular anchorage.
    No reason to illegally discharge in this area.
     
  8. aerobat77

    aerobat77 Active Member

    439
    Aug 12, 2014
    germany
    2006 240 DA Sundancer
    5.0 MPI / Bravo III
    i pumped out inside the marina while another buddy took a swim between boats in the summerheat to cool down a bit .

    he wondered a little how quick he went brown on holiday and proudly smiled at me .

    i friendly smiled back ;-)
     
  9. MonacoMike

    MonacoMike Well-Known Member PLATINUM Sponsor

    Sep 15, 2009
    Indiana lakes and Lake Michigan
    2000 Cruisers 3870
    8.2 Mercs
    85 Sea Ray Monaco 197
    260hp Alpha 1
    Most of the fuel docks in southern Lake Michigan do the pump out for you. The various marinas have different processes from full service where they do it every week if desired to you have to go to a pumpout when needed.

    My flooded dock, we moved from, had full service every week which was great because my 270 had a 15 gallon tank. My current dock has pumpout hose connections at each slip and you do it yourself.

    After years of evidence of nasty left on the gunwales, dirty boot prints on the boat, etc. I do not mind handling it myself. We have sufficient capacity now that we don't have to pumpout unless we are on a 2 week trip.

    MM
     
  10. Woody

    Woody Well-Known Member PLATINUM Sponsor

    Nov 20, 2007
    N. Wisconsin/Lk Superior
    2005 420DA
    Cummins 6CTA8.3
    If these were folks I considered friends I'd probably find some information for them to help them understand they are not legal. After that I'd turn them in.

    I had a situation a few years ago with a sailboat several slips away. He was leaking diesel fuel into his bilge. He was at his boat virtually every evening after which diesel fuel would work it's way down the marina to my area. Once when it was quite windy the waves actually splashed diesel up onto my swim platform. You could smell it, see it, track it right to his boat whenever he was there. He denied, denied, denied it, it wasn't him he said.....I called the CG. The CG sent a special crew for such situations, they came from over 200mi away.

    Luckily for the sailboater he hadn't pumped his bilge for a day, it was a bit stormy and diesel had been flushed away by the time the CG got there. You could still smell it faintly and I showed them the diesel residue on my boat and others. They looked around, took some samples, and talked to boat owners including the sailboater.

    Lo and behold the sailboater quickly had a local shop make a new fuel tank and the problem was solved...he just needed a little motivation.;)
     
  11. Gofirstclass

    Gofirstclass Well-Known Member

    Apr 20, 2010
    Tri Cities, WA
    1995 550 Sedan Bridge,
    2010 Boston Whaler 130 Super Sport,
    1981 Boston Whaler 130 Sport,
    CAT 3406C's, 580hp.
    Do you mean to tell me there are actually pump out stations where there are people to help you?

    This ol country boy ain't never seed one of them.
     
  12. Zach312

    Zach312 Active Member

    515
    Jan 23, 2011
    Hudson, WI
    2008 Sea Ray 48 Sundancer
    Cummins QSC 540's
    I guess we are spoiled on the northern rivers. This is our 7th season and i have never done a pump out. All of the fuel docks on the St. Croix river and upper Mississippi that we have been to have staffed pump outs. Our current marina does dockside pump outs for $350 for the entire year. We don't even go to the fuel dock anymore.
     

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