Official 380 Thread

The adventure has definitely begun...

Orchestrating new camper canvas (cantilevered back, two mesh panels, replace vinyl in the front).
Dealing with the naming (boat, hats, jackets, coffee cups...per "Only Mate").
Dealing with the bumpers and ropes.
Trying to spreadsheet and documents all the previous services and baseline future work.
Figuring out an upgrade path for electronics, and learning how to operate all the buttons.
First freeze on the way.
Provisioning.
Tool stash.

With all that, until your post I had completely forgotten that I also need to learn to drive it...cr*p...
 
carterchapman said:
Great News Charles!

I've got my semi-annual Recurrent simulator training each evening next week, but I could be available until about 3 any day if you need an extra hand.

I assume they will launch her from Blockhouse...
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Carter, that is awfully kind. Blockhouse is correct-amundo. I am awaiting schedules as we speak and will keep you posted, but it definitely looks like sometime next week. I am seriously considering driving over to Aqualand today or Saturday and simply sitting in it on (on blocks) and partaking of an adult beverage, but will probably demonstrate uncharacteristic reserve and await delivery.
 
OK...stupid question time has now officially begun. Please be gentle...I did try to read everything to find out first...and I probably missed every one of these posts.

1. Under what circumstances would this toggle, located on the rear of what seems to be labeled a 4kw array, be "off"?

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2. I am assuming this is for the remote front spotlight? It is located in the front anchor compartment, but I was just surprised there was a coax going into it.

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3. Does the 380 have a freshwater washdown or does this spigot (conveniently located in the forward anchor locker but I think I saw one in the rear storage hatch as well) draw from the boat's water supply?

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4. The Taylor "Big B" fenders have a hole running completely through the fender. If any of you use that model, what do you tie to the bottom to secure the end of the rope? Do you use a large knot or is there some...insert of some sort?

5. Is there an obvious way to tell which Raymarine GPS antenna is on the boat? Do the Raymarine 125's look different from earlier models? Or do you just climb up and disassemble it? Or is there a menu on the RM300 that gives the antenna model number?

Ours is still going through bottom paint, and underwater light install in the repair yard and I am home with a couple of feet of manuals to dig through. But after climbing all over it today, these are five "starter" questions...and I assure you I am showing great restraint.
 
Congrats on the boat! We're staying at our lake house which is only about a mile from the Blockhouse Ramp. Ditto on Carter's offer if you need/want some assistance....
 
JediJD said:
OK...stupid question time has now officially begun. Please be gentle...I did try to read everything to find out first...and I probably missed every one of these posts.

1. Under what circumstances would this toggle, located on the rear of what seems to be labeled a 4kw array, be "off"?

002-4.jpg


2. I am assuming this is for the remote front spotlight? It is located in the front anchor compartment, but I was just surprised there was a coax going into it.

006-3.jpg


3. Does the 380 have a freshwater washdown or does this spigot (conveniently located in the forward anchor locker but I think I saw one in the rear storage hatch as well) draw from the boat's water supply?

007-3.jpg


4. The Taylor "Big B" fenders have a hole running completely through the fender. If any of you use that model, what do you tie to the bottom to secure the end of the rope? Do you use a large knot or is there some...insert of some sort?

5. Is there an obvious way to tell which Raymarine GPS antenna is on the boat? Do the Raymarine 125's look different from earlier models? Or do you just climb up and disassemble it? Or is there a menu on the RM300 that gives the antenna model number?

Ours is still going through bottom paint, and underwater light install in the repair yard and I am home with a couple of feet of manuals to dig through. But after climbing all over it today, these are five "starter" questions...and I assure you I am showing great restraint.
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1) I'm not sure what reason one would have to turn it off, but I'll tell you that it will drive you crazy trying to figure out why the radar isn't getting a signal when it's off....don't ask how I know.
2)I've never seen that box or never paid much attention to it but that's all that it could be with ACR on it.
3)Both spigots draw from the boats water supply, be it tank or dockside.
4)I carry two of the Big B fenders and just have a knot at one end of the hole. Some will tie a small knot in the middle of the line and wedge the knot in the middle of the fender giving you ample rope on each end that will not move.
5)Not sure on the antenna, I replaced mine last season because it took a crap.
Don't you just love that stack of manuals. :thumbsup:
 
ACR URC-101 look here, see page 10

Since you are wading through your manuals I believe there is a warning in there someplace to insure that your fresh water pump is off before connecting to city water.

If I am wrong about the fresh water pump, someone please post a comment.

Thanks

:thumbsup:
 
Pseudomind said:
ACR URC-101 look here, see page 10

Since you are wading through your manuals I believe there is a warning in there someplace to insure that your fresh water pump is off before connecting to city water.

:thumbsup:
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Thanks! And that was pretty funny. I have two feet of manuals in my office that I am digging through. Every single flippin' page seems to carry a warning of some sort. It sounds like the water pump warning is a substantial one that might possibly merit highlighting.
 
Windjammer said:
Congrats on the boat! We're staying at our lake house which is only about a mile from the Blockhouse Ramp. Ditto on Carter's offer if you need/want some assistance....
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Thank you very much...we are still trying to confirm a delivery date and I may give you guys a shout. We will be launching at the blockhouse...which will be yet another new experience for me.
 
Charles,

Tomorrow is my busy day, but any other day is good for me. I still appreciate Windjammer's help when mine was launched from Blockhouse a year ago...
 
Delivery day arrived...awfully pretty watching the boat being hauled into the launch yard...less pretty when I realized the lake was down 15 feet and the launch zone resembled a koi pond. Got launched (after finding out the guys who tore down the radar assembly did in fact tear down the radar assembly...as opposed to disassembling it...service call on the way). Made the pleasant acquaintance of our introductory Captain, David Stinson. He wasn't completely familiar with this model, but extremely familiar with boats in general, and I had read all the manuals. New front Eisenglas installed with a handy dandy tool I had never seen before, and strongly suggest to anyone who doesn't have one...it is a canvas snap installation tool (apparently available at West Marine or eBay). Boat absolutely sparkled.

In fact, it sparkled so much that it didn't bother me in the least that it arrived with no water and very little fuel. Between the Captain and I, (actually 99.9% him and 1% my encouragement) we figured enough buttons to push to get started. About an hour of slow going, avoiding shoals, we arrived at Park Marina. Learned that the genset doesn't start with less than a quarter tank of fuel. Learned the chip in the Raymarine chartplotter only worked on a lake I was not on and now I need to learn marine "chip speak". Learned that the genset doesn't start with a quarter tank of fuel if the oil level in the genset is low. Learned that the marina shuts off the water in the winter. Learned that they don't shut off the opportunity to fill your 275 gallon tanks with $3.15/gallon gas. Learned I was so happy with the boat I didn't begrudge it. Learned that water is important in the functioning of the vacuFlush head. No problem, went to the local "Dollar" store and proudly purchased two gallons of water for the evening. Successfully managed the head for the evening. Wife and I cracked open a really really nice Cab, and the crappy corkscrew I bought for marine use broke the cork into 12 million pieces. Learned cork doesn't affect Cabernet drinkability while on the water. Learned that the new, reasonably expensive, titanium unbreakable glassware does in fact break...in fact it breaks upon a reasonably enthusiastic toast. Learned that pitch black dark, in 35 degree weather, is not a great time to replace windhshield wiper blades. Learned that we get one digital channel with the Glomax antenna and an HD 19" flatscreen. Learned that channel sucks. Learned that an abandoned copy of Jim Carey's "Yes" is incredbily amusing if you are thawing out from failing to replace wiper blades and lubricated with Cab. Learned that Jimmy Buffett on the CD also goes well with a nice Cab. Learned that a thermoplastic foam topper turns the bed in the stateroom into a really really comfortable sleeping area...especially after half a bottle of Cab. Learned that two gallons of water is great for the vacuFlush, and rinsing some dishes, and making coffee...but doesn't go very far when faced with shaving and showering. Learned that, despite bringing nearly every tool known to man, I did not have a tiny torx bit or the correct size hex key for the Magma grill. Learned the heater works like a flippin' TOP! (Damn comfortable) Learned my wife liked this adventure lots more than she liked Harleys. Learned that I could go fifteen consecutive hours without giving a damn about my email. Learned that the first cup of coffee, the first morning after you have spent the night in your new boat, with an "Only Mate" as excited as you are, is the single greatest cup of coffee in the history of mankind.
 
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Sounds like a great time. Yep the snap tool is one of the must have items aboard.
 
what have you fellow 380 owners found as your best cruising speed? i have the 7.4's so would this differ from others with 8.1's?
 
I run between 3400 and 3500, which is between 23 mph and 26 mph depending on conditions. I find that's about the best fuel economy I can get.

I don't believe your 7.4's would be that much different.
 
I have the 7.4 horizons and cruise between 3500 to 3600 which gives me right about 26 to 27 mph full fuel and water. Burn the tanks down and half the water she will push about 28mph. I have 21x22 4 blade props and this summer will try a pair of 21x23 4 blades that I bought and see if it makes any differance. I hope this helps.
 
We took a trip with it last summer from Buffalo to Dover Ontario and started out in 4 to 5 ft waves. From there to Erie Pa and put in around 180 gal. I would put that at right around .7 to .8 mpg. You should be able to do at least 200 miles cruising at that rpm. The boat seems to like that range the best. I have tried 3200 and 3400 rpm and at 3200 you will be back to about 22 mph and it feels like the engines are working harder to keep it going. So I would say try between 3400 to 3600 and you cant go wrong. The engine will not be harmed by running at this range at all.
 
Searay Chuck said:
I have the 7.4 horizons and cruise between 3500 to 3600 which gives me right about 26 to 27 mph full fuel and water. Burn the tanks down and half the water she will push about 28mph. I have 21x22 4 blade props and this summer will try a pair of 21x23 4 blades that I bought and see if it makes any differance. I hope this helps.
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Not being snippity or anything, but........Of course it will make a difference. The question is, will it be a difference that both you and your motors are happy with.

All else being equal, and generally speaking, increasing the pitch will decrease your WOT RPM and increase your speed at your current cruise RPMs. It may or maynot have detrimental effects on your hole shot, depending on how well pitched your motors are before the change. If you have a tough time getting on plane now, and then increase the pitch, you will have an even tougher time after increasing the pitch. You must also make sure that your WOT RPMs are still within the Specs....I think in your configuration, that would be ~ 44-4800....but check that. If not, you will be Overpropped and thus over loading your motors throughout the RPM range.

Again, Generally speaking, it is better to be under rather than over propped. Less load on the motors. If you want to cruise faster simply hit the throttles a little heavier.
 
Searay Chuck said:
I have the 7.4 horizons and cruise between 3500 to 3600 which gives me right about 26 to 27 mph full fuel and water. Burn the tanks down and half the water she will push about 28mph. I have 21x22 4 blade props and this summer will try a pair of 21x23 4 blades that I bought and see if it makes any differance. I hope this helps.
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Chuck,

I hope you let us know how the change in props goes. I have the 8.1s and feel the boat could use a little more pitch because it planes so quickly. I would be willing to go with more pitch, but not at the expense of losing fuel efficiency.

Don
 
I will let you know how it works out. And yes I am fully aware of how pitch works. I have been thru this on every boat I have owned and when I get it where I want it I end up selling the boat. Not this time. The 38 is the perfect boat for us and plan on having it a long time. Currently it gets right up on plane and is just pushing going beyond 4800 rpm. The 23 pitch should get me to around 4600 rpm and in the middle of the range. Of course this depends on the cup as well and if these truely are a 23 pitch prop. The 38's with the 8.1 came with 21x22.5 and a 21 x23 prop setup so this I feel will probably work out for the better. 4 1/2 months from now I will let you know.
 
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