Just Checked my papers and that is what mine is listed as (9). Not weight but displacement.
Technically, yes, you do have to renew it every year but it is a free renewal until, I believe the 5th year where you pay again.
Someone correct me if I am wrong on the 5th year part.
Well then I have a treat for you! :smt001 The yearly renewal is definitely FREE as I just did mine. Now you can't say the FEDS never gave you anything! :grin:
I am pretty sure there is a point when you have to pay again. I think it is 5 years.
FANTASTIC. Mine shows an annual expiration and I never heard of anything free. They took half a year to change it and I assumed I had to do that every year. I wish I could have assumed the prior owner. I think my fee was about 90 bucks. You made my day.
do they send reminders? or do you have to re file the e mail app each time?
do they send reminders? or do you have to re file the e mail app each time?
Woody
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HOW LONG IS THE CERTIFICATE OF DOCUMENTATION VALID?
A Certificate of Documentation is valid for one year from the date of issue, providing there are NO CHANGES other than a change of owner's address. The Certificate must be renewed on an annual basis. Even though it is up to the owner to assure the document does not expire, the Coast Guard will send a Notice of Renewal to the managing owner approximately 45 days prior to expiration. There is no fee for the yearly renewal. See the instruction letter Renewal of Certificate of Documentation elsewhere at this site regarding renewal procedures.
Vessel Documentation Renewal
Certificates of documentation are re-issued on a yearly basis according to the expiration date as shown on the certificate. This coincides with the date upon which the vessel was initially placed into documentation or returned to documentation subsequent to a deletion. Approximately 45 days prior to the document's expiration date, the National Vessel Documentation Center will send a renewal certification form to the managing owner's address as shown on their records. The owner must take responsibility for
One of the endearing aspects of Coast Guard vessel documentation is that once established, there are no further costs associated with yearly renewals. However, a renewal certification must be returned before the annual expiration date or additional fees will be incurred. If renewed within the 30 day grace period subsequent to expiration, there is a late renewal fee is $ 5.00. If allowed to lapse beyond the grace period, you will have to endure the cost of reinstating the documentation. returning a certification even though a notification was never received. It is accordingly very important that you keep the Coast Guard informed of the managing owner's current mailing address.
One of the endearing aspects of Coast Guard vessel documentation is that once established, there are no further costs associated with yearly renewals. However, a renewal certification must be returned before the annual expiration date or additional fees will be incurred. If renewed within the 30 day grace period subsequent to expiration, there is a late renewal fee is $ 5.00. If allowed to lapse beyond the grace period, you will have to endure the cost of reinstating the documentation. returning a certification even though a notification was never received. It is accordingly very important that you keep the Coast Guard informed of the managing owner's current mailing address.
Some reading for you guys http://www.uscg.mil/hq/cg5/nvdc/
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You will receive a folded paper statement several weeks before it expires. All you have to do is sign that there are no changes and mail or fax it in. Once they receive it you will get a new Cert in the mail shortly.
Woody
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I don't think these statements are correct, maybe I am misunderstanding them. Federal documentation doesn't automatically trump the requirements of the state and certainly isn't required in order to get help from the CG.
Henry Boyd
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Woody is right. Federal Documentation and state registration are not mutually exclusive. Documentation does not require a matching state registration, but it also does not disallow it either.
State registration agencies on the other hand can not prevent a boat owner from documenting their vessel, nor are they (the state) required to relinquish the registration requirement. The one thing all states must do though on a federally documented vessel is recognize the the validity and primacy of the ownership titling provided by federal documentation. So some states waive registration and associated boat numbering, some states, don't waive registration but do waive the hull numbering requirement, and I think (but not sure) there are some states that require registration and numbering regardless of federal documentation status.
My personal unscientific observation of this is that states that collect either sales, or personal property taxes, via the boat registration process tend to take the registration process more seriously. Here in Mass, sales tax and excise tax collection are outside of the registration process, and as I said the state title process is superseded by the feds, so Mass really does not care.
Now to get to the points made about banks. Federal Documentation provides the bank with a far stronger title/ownership claim than a state title does not only nationally, but internationally as well. Technically, state courts do not have to recognize the authority of a lien on an out of state title, although they do. Internationally, foreign courts will sometimes even laugh at you when you try to perfect a claim where the only documentation is a state title. With federal documentation, the ownership claim is recognized everywhere. In foreign countries the claim is as equally valid as it is here because the documentation process is covered by reciprocity treaties.
Henry
- Oct 4, 2006
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Ok, time for something different....
Has anyone ever installed a flush mount rod holder in the gunwales anywhere on the 280? If so, pics would be great. I'm not sure there is enough room below to mount them.
Otherwise, I'm considering a couple of these flush mount devices from Cabela's. Very low profile when the rod holder isn't in the base.
http://www.cabelas.com/product/Cabe...ts&Ntt=360ht&WTz_l=Header;Search-All+Products
Has anyone ever installed a flush mount rod holder in the gunwales anywhere on the 280? If so, pics would be great. I'm not sure there is enough room below to mount them.
Otherwise, I'm considering a couple of these flush mount devices from Cabela's. Very low profile when the rod holder isn't in the base.
http://www.cabelas.com/product/Cabe...ts&Ntt=360ht&WTz_l=Header;Search-All+Products
jk280
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- Oct 31, 2010
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I have not but have you considered the products made by Seasucker?
www.seasucker.com
They install using suction cups and are removable. You don't have to drill into anything. Plus, the cups can be used interchangeably with their other products.
Jeff
www.seasucker.com
They install using suction cups and are removable. You don't have to drill into anything. Plus, the cups can be used interchangeably with their other products.
Jeff
nwboater
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Very nice, thanks for the picture! Do you have one on the opposite side also, or is that the only one?
Tom
Tom
nwboater
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Just the one side...I had the other side scoped out as well, but did not put in at this point, since I'm only using it for the BBQ mount for now.
- Oct 4, 2006
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- 2003 280DA and 1995 Sea Ray 175
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- Twin 4.3l and 3.0l, all w/ AlphaI GenII drives
Thanks again. I'm going to spec both gunwales out real good and determine if I can get it into both sides on my boat; if so, that's my ideal plan.
swaldrop2213@yahoo.com
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Hey everyone, What are the best props for a 2001 280 w/4.3 efi alphas? I'm running 17 pitch merc vengenance, turning 4800 on one and 5000 w.o.t. on the other. Thanks!!:huh:
PMC
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Your are running a correct combination, I wouldn't change the props. WOT is a range between 4400-4800. Have a talk with a good prop shop. They will be able to identify and correct the 200 RPM difference no problem.
