no more fuel dock

[boatman37]

So last week we rode down by the marina and i noticed the fuel dock was gone. The DEP made them get rid of the fuel dock saying the tank had to be buried. So they went to the township to request a permit and they denied it. So no more fuel in our pool. So only option now is to lug fuel cans down to the slip. Gonna suck for those bigger boats with 200 gallon tanks

 

[Jus Cruisin]

There isn't a fuel dock at all within a 15 minute ride? I have a fuel dock at my marina that I don't use. I buy on the Clinton River which is about a 15 minute run.

 

[techmitch]

How long is said pool?

 

[FootballFan]

I feel your pain.

We keep our boat in a very small marina (8 total boats), no fuel dock.

There is a fuel dock a 30 minute ride from our slip. After that it is a few hours to get to a fuel dock. We just stay very diligent about returning to the slip and making sure we have at a minimum a few hours of cruising on board.

For point of reference, our boat is in Clearwater - we probably buy 80% of our fuel in Venice (approx 60 miles south). As long as we pay attention have been able to manage it ok. We are out cruising typically (1-200 miles) anytime the boat leaves the slip.

What will be interesting is that in the next year the one nearby fuel dock that we can get into with our draft will be closing for a marina remodel. Will be interesting then... no easy back up plan.

 

[Pirate Lady]

So last week we rode down by the marina and i noticed the fuel dock was gone. The DEP made them get rid of the fuel dock saying the tank had to be buried. So they went to the township to request a permit and they denied it. So no more fuel in our pool. So only option now is to lug fuel cans down to the slip. Gonna suck for those bigger boats with 200 gallon tanks

Thats crazy! Its illegal in the marinas around me to fuel from cans. Fire / spill hazard.
I swear, the more I hear these stories the more glad i am where I boat. I got 7 fuel docks in 2 miles.

 

[unsalted]

I agree with Crazy. I thought most authorities were pushing for above ground because you can’t see leaks in underground tanks.

 

[Pirate Lady]

Boatman, look at the bright side. Yall on the cutting edge. No more carbon emissions, get a Tesla boat. You really don’t want to travel farther than 10 miles anyway. Round trip.

 

[PlayDate]

Boatman, look at the bright side. Yall on the cutting edge. No more carbon emissions, get a Tesla boat. You really don’t want to travel farther than 10 miles anyway. Round trip.

No no no..... Buy the one that uses unicorn tears....much more cost effective. Electricity and water don't mix and using electricity means old people will freeze to death.

 

[boatman37]

Our pool on the Ohio is about 15 miles long. There are no marinas along the Ohio in our pool and the only river connected in our pool that is big enough to accommodate bigger boats is the Beaver River. We have about 9 or 10 marinas on the Beaver but that was the only fuel dock. I'm not sure where any other fuel docks are in the other pools but either way you would have to go through the locks to get to them.
Not sure about the legality of fueling at the dock but we have no other choice now since the boro won't authorize burying a fuel tank and DEP won't allow a tank above ground. They might be able to fight the boro over this but the owner said it just isn't worth it

 

[blaster]

No no no..... Buy the one that uses unicorn tears....much more cost effective. Electricity and water don't mix and using electricity means old people will freeze to death.

No no no, unicorn tears are an inhumane fuel source. Do you know how they make those unicorns cry? Unicorn poo is the most humane and economical fuel source for next generation power.

 

[LTD.330]

So last week we rode down by the marina and i noticed the fuel dock was gone. The DEP made them get rid of the fuel dock saying the tank had to be buried. So they went to the township to request a permit and they denied it. So no more fuel in our pool. So only option now is to lug fuel cans down to the slip. Gonna suck for those bigger boats with 200 gallon tanks

I understand your alternatives are limited, but Fueling your boat with 5 gallon cans is crazy and dangerous. It's not a matter of "if" but "when" something catastrophic happens to you or someone else in your marina.

 

[BillK2632]

Assuming the marina is going to allow it, I think if I were in your situation I would look into buying one of those gas caddy's that holds 25gal and has a hose built in that you can roll down to the boat. Still a PIA as I am sure your boat holds a lot more.

Fueling from cans at our marina is a big no go, but they do sell gas.

 

[Golfman25]

I swear. The world is being run by idiots.

 

[bfernald0]

In MDR the only fuel dock runs on avg $3/gal higher than the gas station and 350—4 higher than Costco. There's a Costco 5 minutes from our yacht club.

Bought a fill rite dc fuel pump, 2 10 gallon, 1 15 gallon and 3 6 gallon Jerry cans. They all fit in one dock cart.

I've got the round trip: fill at coscto, pump into boat, back to Costco to 45 min.

Before a trip to Catalina, 2 Costco runs at 6 in the morning and a run here and there, so I've got about 150 in the boat.

Max out the cash back for fuel on the Costco citibank card every year.

It's the principle...

 

[PlayDate]

In MDR the only fuel dock runs on avg $3/gal higher than the gas station and 350—4 higher than Costco. There's a Costco 5 minutes from our yacht club.

Bought a fill rite dc fuel pump, 2 10 gallon, 1 15 gallon and 3 6 gallon Jerry cans. They all fit in one dock cart.

I've got the round trip: fill at coscto, pump into boat, back to Costco to 45 min.

Before a trip to Catalina, 2 Costco runs at 6 in the morning and a run here and there, so I've got about 150 in the boat.

Max out the cash back for fuel on the Costco citibank card every year.

It's the principle...

Really surprised Costco lets you load 53 gallons into 6 containers at once. They put a sign on ours that limited fill ups to one car or container only.

 

[mrsrobinson]

Folks on the James River are known to pay a fuel tank truck to bring fuel to their home dock, maybe an option.

 

[bfernald0]

Really surprised Costco lets you load 53 gallons into 6 containers at once. They put a sign on ours that limited fill ups to one car or container only.

Never had an issue, but there's a reason I show up at 6 in the morning or earlier. I suspect if I showed up laden down with 53 gallons in jerry cans at noon, with cars lined up around the block, they'd say no way, and or I'd have a riot on my hands.

Though I've never had a spill, there's also a reason I do it early in the morning before folks are down on the docks. Been doing this successfully for multiple years now. The Fill Rite pump (and a 2 impeller kits later) I purchased on Amazon way back when for 300 bucks has paid for itself 20 times over at this point. During COVID/Trump days the entire fill up, along with the truck, could be completed on one charge. Now it takes two separate credit card charges to get it done as the first one limits out.

 

[FootballFan]

pretty common in Florida to be able to fuel diesel right off the truck - if you are at a location that they can run a hose from the truck to the boat.

We did that when we had a boat on the east coast. The current location cannot get a truck close enough.

 

[Golfman25]

pretty common in Florida to be able to fuel diesel right off the truck - if you are at a location that they can run a hose from the truck to the boat.

We did that when we had a boat on the east coast. The current location cannot get a truck close enough.

Friend of mine has a fleet of semi trucks for delivery. Guess where he sends the fuel truck after they fill his facility tanks.

 

[bfernald0]

pretty common in Florida to be able to fuel diesel right off the truck - if you are at a location that they can run a hose from the truck to the boat.

We did that when we had a boat on the east coast. The current location cannot get a truck close enough.

Ain't common in SoCal. I suspect I'd have to get ten permits and pass a public hearing...