sbw1
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- Oct 10, 2006
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That's the Binford 2000 made by Bayliner.
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Layed off 850 boat builders, and now adding 1000 wind turbine jobs. That's the kind of change people voted for. Yes this is political, and I like the boats better.
This deserves a book, and I only have a couple of paragraphs.
Government cannot "invest". Government can only spend.
You wouldn't even be able to see it from shore. I guess the deal was it killed birds. Big whoopie.
Cape Winds proposed site is right in the middle of a very heavy recreational / commercial boating area, it’s not the same as putting a wind farm in the middle of a corn field or off shore were you can't see it.
Where do you think the offshore Oil Rigs that provide fuel for your boat are located? I'm for one sick and tired of everyone on the east coast 1) whining about offshore windfarms 2) griping about high energy costs. Get off your high horse and try to become part of the solution and not the problem. Have you ever wondered why Texas created more jobs than the other 49 states combined last year? Think energy! ( Approximately 70 percent of the jobs created in the U.S. from November 2007-2008 were in Texas, with 7,300 jobs created in November 2008 alone. Texas’ unemployment rate is one point lower than the national average, and the state’s annual growth rate was 2.1 percent last year, compared to -1.4 percent nationally.)
Cape Winds proposed site is right in the middle of a very heavy recreational / commercial boating area, it’s not the same as putting a wind farm in the middle of a corn field or off shore were you can't see it.
Where do you think the offshore Oil Rigs that provide fuel for your boat are located? I'm for one sick and tired of everyone on the east coast 1) whining about offshore windfarms 2) griping about high energy costs. Get off your high horse and try to become part of the solution and not the problem. Have you ever wondered why Texas created more jobs than the other 49 states combined last year? Think energy! ( Approximately 70 percent of the jobs created in the U.S. from November 2007-2008 were in Texas, with 7,300 jobs created in November 2008 alone. Texas’ unemployment rate is one point lower than the national average, and the state’s annual growth rate was 2.1 percent last year, compared to -1.4 percent nationally.)
Bite me, the only reason anyone would do this is off shore is because of tax payer dollars.
1,2. I don't think I was whining.
Fair enough argument about tax dollars as I also think it's a bad investment with Our money. However I'm more than willing to bet the private sector would be more than happy to move in and explore for O&G off the coast. Nope not happening because you are too concerned about your view or the "enviromental impact". Before you argue please educate yourself as to the true impact.
As far as "whining" that was a poor choice of words...My apologies and I didn't mean to specify wind farms. It's the whole attitude about not exploring energy options off the coast of the NW because it may affect you. Why is it ok for it to affect us? What makes you think your coastline is more important than mine? It's this attitude that gets my blood boiling. You want it all, but not willing to pay the piper. Again I'm not trying to single you out but it seems the attitude of the region.
Hey Mark. You wanna drill over here, come on up! More energy is good for the economy, which is suckling hind ... right now. Oil rigs in the Atlantic? That's the view of prosperity as far as I'm concerned.
Best regards,
Frank
I'm with you, buddy. If it means affordable gas and heating oil, put 5 or 10 oil rigs right smack in the middle of the Chesapeake. I'll drive around them.
It just pisses me off that people want to stop drilling for or using oil BEFORE we have a viable alternative. Its just plain stupid. :smt021
Michael
To answer your question yes I am in the Biz...Otherwise I don't feel I would be qualified to comment about the "true enviromental impact" and the jobs it creates. You lost me on the "trying to prevent something you don't want" comment. As a nation I believe we want energy independence / lower costs and I'm not saying O&G is the total solution, but it is no doubt a bridge while we advance technologies elseware. As far as personel attacks I'm above that.
Oh well I think this thread is far enough topic...hope all had a good weekend and got the boats wet!
RANT OVER
It just pisses me off that people want to stop drilling for or using oil BEFORE we have a viable alternative. Its just plain stupid. :smt021
Michael
I disagree. If we want to control the energy of the world, and we do, it's smart to continue to use up their resources before they have an alternative, then, we they run out (if they do), we begin to increase the use of our own resources while we work to develop alternative energy solutions, which we will, before anyone else. The otherwise completely unproductive arab desert nations will fall back into complete squallor and start roaming around the desert aimlessly blaiming their lives on the Jews, just like they were before the oil boom. I'd fly 5,000 miles to smoke a camel - and I'm not talking about cigarettes.
My concern with this scenario is that by the time they run out (if they do) that they will own our resources.