New 280 Owner

Discussion in 'Who's Who' started by Hai Nhi, May 2, 2013.

  1. Bucit

    Bucit New Member

    Mar 12, 2010
    St. Petersburg Florida
    2005 280 Sundancer
    2004 SPD-104 Achilles w/ 8hp Yamaha
    Twin 4.3 MPI's with Alpha drives.
    Trim and tabs down to get on plane. Once on plane, bring the tabs up and you're good to go.
     
  2. susanandlance

    susanandlance New Member

    Feb 10, 2011
    Florida
    2005 Fountain 27, 496HO power, towed by Chevrolet Duramax HD 4x4
    496HO, 425 HP
    Only time I use tabs to plane is when I'm ready loaded heavy, other than that just to balance uneven load
     
  3. Bucit

    Bucit New Member

    Mar 12, 2010
    St. Petersburg Florida
    2005 280 Sundancer
    2004 SPD-104 Achilles w/ 8hp Yamaha
    Twin 4.3 MPI's with Alpha drives.
    No genny and tuned props helps a little too. I'm usually full on fuel water and coolers full of cold frosties!
     
  4. susanandlance

    susanandlance New Member

    Feb 10, 2011
    Florida
    2005 Fountain 27, 496HO power, towed by Chevrolet Duramax HD 4x4
    496HO, 425 HP
    Me too!!!!! ;)
     
  5. Bucit

    Bucit New Member

    Mar 12, 2010
    St. Petersburg Florida
    2005 280 Sundancer
    2004 SPD-104 Achilles w/ 8hp Yamaha
    Twin 4.3 MPI's with Alpha drives.
    I was told on the alphas to use them to reduce the strain on the outdrives since the 280 is azz heavy especially when loaded. Since it doesn't take any effort to hold down two buttons for a few seconds I always do it.
     
  6. susanandlance

    susanandlance New Member

    Feb 10, 2011
    Florida
    2005 Fountain 27, 496HO power, towed by Chevrolet Duramax HD 4x4
    496HO, 425 HP
    Our little 4.3's are'nt putting any strain on our drives, its when you have 350mag or more attached to the front of it that ya need to take care
     
  7. floriduramax1

    floriduramax1 Active Member GOLD Sponsor

    Sep 19, 2010
    Florida
    280DA, Magic Tilt triple axle, 2006 GMC 2500 D/A
    T4.3/ Alpha
    Agreed. I only need tabs when loaded for long trip. If I'm not heavy enough, tabs down will cause my props to lose bite.
     
  8. Creekwood

    Creekwood Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    Apr 26, 2009
    Oakville and Georgian Bay, Ontario
    '97 330 Sundancer
    2X 454 w/ vDrives
  9. Nodrog

    Nodrog New Member

    57
    Feb 12, 2013
    Eastern Shore Maryland
    1999 Sea Ray 270 Sundancer Kohler 5kw Genset, Garmin GPSMAP 440s
    2001 Ford F350 Super Duty Super C
    454 Mercruiser MPI w/Bravo III Drive
    Nhi

    It takes a little practice to get the boat to do what you want but once you have it down it then becomes automatic and you'll be in and out of the dock in no time. Even when things are going good be prepared for something to happen. Check out my blogspot when you get a chance from this past weekend.

    http://mysearayadventures.blogspot.com/
     
  10. Hai Nhi

    Hai Nhi New Member

    184
    Feb 3, 2013
    Hayward, CA
    280DA, triple axle aluminum, 12 F350 CCLB 6.7 KR; 06 Yamaha Jetski Cruiser (50 Yr Anniversary Ver)
    T4.3L 220HP w/Alpha I Drives Gen II
    Ouch!!! Man, I hope I don't have to go through something like that ... yet! :)
     
  11. Bucit

    Bucit New Member

    Mar 12, 2010
    St. Petersburg Florida
    2005 280 Sundancer
    2004 SPD-104 Achilles w/ 8hp Yamaha
    Twin 4.3 MPI's with Alpha drives.
    So if it takes your boat 8 seconds to plane without tabs compared to 4 with tabs it isn't putting any additional torque/force on your outdrives? I don't see your reasoning.

    My props never cavitate with a lighter load and tabs down? Although I hit 49.9mph on GPS which Lance hasn't come close to. Although we have the same boats it seems they all react differently.
     
  12. susanandlance

    susanandlance New Member

    Feb 10, 2011
    Florida
    2005 Fountain 27, 496HO power, towed by Chevrolet Duramax HD 4x4
    496HO, 425 HP
    But Lance has 20 h.p.'s less than you..... :) No little 4.3 isn't gonna hurt an alpha drive...
     
  13. saopm

    saopm Member

    718
    Oct 6, 2010
    North Fork - Long Island, NY
    2007 340 Sundancer
    Mercury 8.1s Inboards
    My boat will not come anywhere near 49.9 MPH. Max is 42.2MPH with clean bottom and a slight tail wind. My props are tunned for cruise speed. I would need an 18p or 19p props to get near 49.9 MPH.

    I alway take off tabs down. It doesn't need it, but it does make a difference.
     
  14. Gunn

    Gunn Active Member TECHNICAL Contributor

    Oct 4, 2006
    Potomac River - MD
    2003 280DA and 1995 Sea Ray 175
    Twin 4.3l and 3.0l, all w/ AlphaI GenII drives
    4 seconds? What mods have you done to your 4.3's!? :smt001 I have never actually timed my boats planing speed, but it's a lot longer than that. Maybe it's because when I use tabs, its because I need too. Meaning I have extra people on board and so the end result is the same time to plane. 8-10 seconds I'd guess normally. I'll have to measure it some time.

    Plus, with full tabs down, my boat doesn't seem to retract the tabs at the same rate. So as I'm trying to raise them with both fingers, it'll be heeling all over the place. So I generally only use them when I need to (as I wouldn't get on plane otherwise).

    Related, I also hate the trim tabs pushbutton panel. Why couldn't they just give us those nice big toggle switches like other boats? Then I'd know I was pressing them when they clicked, instead of wondering if my 50lbs of pressure with my two little fingers is actually doing anything...
     
  15. Bucit

    Bucit New Member

    Mar 12, 2010
    St. Petersburg Florida
    2005 280 Sundancer
    2004 SPD-104 Achilles w/ 8hp Yamaha
    Twin 4.3 MPI's with Alpha drives.
    I was just using that as an example. Not sure what my actual planning time is. Luckily my tabs come u pretty even so no listing. The next time I'm light on fuel, water, holding tank and just me in the boat I'll take a picture of the GPS speed. I almost hit 47mph with 5 people, half tank and coolers on board a few weeks ago. They couldn't believe the boat would run that fast.
     
  16. susanandlance

    susanandlance New Member

    Feb 10, 2011
    Florida
    2005 Fountain 27, 496HO power, towed by Chevrolet Duramax HD 4x4
    496HO, 425 HP
    His boat is a race boat w/hi-performance manifolds though......:smt043
     
  17. play dough

    play dough Member

    182
    Aug 29, 2011
    Michigan
    Mint 1999 Minnie Winnie / 2007 Crestliner 1750 Fishhawk
    115 Mercury Optimax
    Regarding what might be mildew in your cabin, I had a little bit of mildew that formed on my cabin headliner up near the bow. I was skeptical, but bought into some claims made by people that swore by a product called Kanberra Gel. I'm no longer skeptical. After one year and two 8 oz. jars (one at a time) of the stuff sitting in the cabin, the mildew and stains are nearly gone and barely even detectable. You might check into that stuff. I think there are some competitor products on the market now, but the Kanberra Gel really surprised me. As a bonus, it clears up odors as well. I now just leave a jar exposed in the cabin and let it "do its stuff".
     
  18. Bucit

    Bucit New Member

    Mar 12, 2010
    St. Petersburg Florida
    2005 280 Sundancer
    2004 SPD-104 Achilles w/ 8hp Yamaha
    Twin 4.3 MPI's with Alpha drives.
    Damn right Skippy!
     
  19. GrandMaster

    GrandMaster New Member

    727
    Mar 27, 2012
    Fort Lauderdale, FL
    1995 Sundancer 290
    Generator, AC
    Twin Mercruiser 4.3L
    +1 on that stuff...I keep one in the head as well
     
  20. floriduramax1

    floriduramax1 Active Member GOLD Sponsor

    Sep 19, 2010
    Florida
    280DA, Magic Tilt triple axle, 2006 GMC 2500 D/A
    T4.3/ Alpha
    With all the canvas completely off, half tank of gas and no load, I have hit mid to high 40's. Over RPM's alarms stat going off around 48-49mph.
     

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