Need help removing old TV

[Bucit]

I have a 2005 280DA. It came with a NEC 15" flat screen ED (enhanced definition) TV. It's mounted to a "black box" which is mounted to the pull out and swivel. The box that SR built looks to be glued, screwed and stapled together. The mount the TV is attached to has two small phillips screws but darn near impossible to get to. I've searched the threads and have seen many upgraes but nobody mentions the problem with removing the old Tv from the SR made box. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

 

[russg]

I have a 2005 280DA. It came with a NEC 15" flat screen ED (enhanced definition) TV. It's mounted to a "black box" which is mounted to the pull out and swivel. The box that SR built looks to be glued, screwed and stapled together. The mount the TV is attached to has two small phillips screws but darn near impossible to get to. I've searched the threads and have seen many upgraes but nobody mentions the problem with removing the old Tv from the SR made box. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

I'm so glad you asked this question. I have an '05 280 as well, and am about to tackle the TV upgrade project. Like you, I looked at the current TV mount and came away scratching my head as to how to dismount the current TV. I did the search here as well and came up empty. I'm sure a helpful reply will be forthcoming soon, but in the meantime, I'd be interested in hearing what your plans are for the replacement TV and how you plan to mount it.

Russ

 

[Bucit]

Russ,

I finished my TV project last night and I'll post pictures soon. I had to remove the DVD player (unhook the wires, push down the tabs on the mounting bracket and push it forward) and then get a small phillips screwdriver and unscrew the TV mounting bracket from underneath the TV. Lift the TV upwards and your good to go. I installed a 19" LED Ac/Dc TV with a built in DVD player. Here is the link http://www.vivaladeals.com/p-3623-1...-hdtv-atsc-digital-tuner-with-dvd-player.aspx. I found a code on the internet and I think the TV was $155 with shipping. I was able to use the exisitng cord from the old TV so I didn't have to run any wires. I double checked and the voltage, amps and watts were the same. I took two 2x4's and screwed them together, paintem them black and screwed them into the black box. I screwed the original TV mounting back plate to the 2x4's and then reset the TV.

 

[russg]

Russ,

I finished my TV project last night and I'll post pictures soon. I had to remove the DVD player (unhook the wires, push down the tabs on the mounting bracket and push it forward) and then get a small phillips screwdriver and unscrew the TV mounting bracket from underneath the TV. Lift the TV upwards and your good to go. I installed a 19" LED Ac/Dc TV with a built in DVD player. Here is the link http://www.vivaladeals.com/p-3623-1...-hdtv-atsc-digital-tuner-with-dvd-player.aspx. I found a code on the internet and I think the TV was $155 with shipping. I was able to use the exisitng cord from the old TV so I didn't have to run any wires. I double checked and the voltage, amps and watts were the same. I took two 2x4's and screwed them together, paintem them black and screwed them into the black box. I screwed the original TV mounting back plate to the 2x4's and then reset the TV.

Outstanding info, congrats on the finished project, and thanks for the reply. I was thinking along the same line as using a spacer to mount the TV onto the existing system, but to offset it forward with the spacer. I've got a couple of questions.

1. Were the tabs you press to remove the DVD player on the back side of mount or on the front? I figured the player would have to come out, but I didn't find the tabs.

2. I'm surprised you had to use two 2X4's for the spacer. I wasn't thinking it would take that much, but I didn't get that far into it. My idea would to be able to have the existing mount slide back all the way into the cabinet and lock as it does now, leaving the back of the new TV resting just about flush with the face of the cabinet. Is that where yours rests when fully retracted? See question #4.

3. I'd be very interested in your thoughts as to the picture quality of the TV you chose. For me, improving the picture quality is pretty the whole point of the project. I'm feeding the TV primarily with a High-Def DISH receiver, so I want to get rid of the 4:3 format and go with a 16:9 format, go a bit larger, and get rid of the rather unspectacular picure quality of the OEM Sharp TV. I may add a Blu-ray player as well if I can find a place to put it. I figured a 19" TV was about as large as I could go, given that I didn't want the TV to encroach into the galley area when retracted into the cabinet. When you look for TVs with 12V power inputs, your choices narrow dramatically. All of them seem to be a niche product manufactured by someone I'm unfamiliar with. And since there's no chance to lay eyes on such a product before you buy it, I'm concerened with overall picture quality. For that reason, I'm tempted to purchase a 120V 19" TV from one of the well recognized manufacturers. I normally only watch the TV when in the slip, and the DISH reciever is 120V, not to mention that the dish is mounted to the dock. I'm not in range of any over the air programming where I boat. In the rare instance when I might want to watch a DVD while away from the slip, I could always fire the genny. But I would be very interested in your thoughts as to the High-def picture quality of your new TV and how the picure holds up when viewd off-angle.

4. Did you mount the TV so that it would clear (as in clear to the left or forward of) the vinyl-padded bulkhead that separates the galley from the v-berth area? This would allow the TV to retract a bit further into the cabinet, but with an 18" TV width (from the specs on your TV) I believe you'd either have to mount the TV a bit off-center towards the bow to clear the bulkhead or span the bulkhead and center the TV on the mount. Can you confirm this and tell me which option you chose? I figured a 17" width would clear the bulkhead and still remain centered on the mount, but 18" would likely not. Unfortunately, 18" was about the minimun width I could find in my search for 19" TVs. I'm guessing that you chose to mount the TV so that it would span the bulkhead, which is why your spacer was thicker than I thought it would have to be.

Thanks again, and I'm really looking forward to the photos of your upgrade!

Russ

 

[Bucit]

1. Were the tabs you press to remove the DVD player on the back side of mount or on the front? I figured the player would have to come out, but I didn't find the tabs.
Look at the back of the unit and you will see the silver mounting bracet with little tabs that are twisted up. I had one on the top and one on the right hand side. Once depressed I was able to push the DVD player out from back to front.

2. I'm surprised you had to use two 2X4's for the spacer. I wasn't thinking it would take that much, but I didn't get that far into it. My idea would to be able to have the existing mount slide back all the way into the cabinet and lock as it does now, leaving the back of the new TV resting just about flush with the face of the cabinet. Is that where yours rests when fully retracted? See question #4. It's actually a little less than what I have and I'll find something else that's perfect. I may cut down a 4x4, paint it black and install it? The TV is about 1/2" from being flush now and I will make it flush and the table still being able to lock.

3. I'd be very interested in your thoughts as to the picture quality of the TV you chose. For me, improving the picture quality is pretty the whole point of the project. I'm feeding the TV primarily with a High-Def DISH receiver, so I want to get rid of the 4:3 format and go with a 16:9 format, go a bit larger, and get rid of the rather unspectacular picure quality of the OEM Sharp TV. I may add a Blu-ray player as well if I can find a place to put it. I figured a 19" TV was about as large as I could go, given that I didn't want the TV to encroach into the galley area when retracted into the cabinet. When you look for TVs with 12V power inputs, your choices narrow dramatically. All of them seem to be a niche product manufactured by someone I'm unfamiliar with. And since there's no chance to lay eyes on such a product before you buy it, I'm concerened with overall picture quality. For that reason, I'm tempted to purchase a 120V 19" TV from one of the well recognized manufacturers. I normally only watch the TV when in the slip, and the DISH reciever is 120V, not to mention that the dish is mounted to the dock. I'm not in range of any over the air programming where I boat. In the rare instance when I might want to watch a DVD while away from the slip, I could always fire the genny. But I would be very interested in your thoughts as to the High-def picture quality of your new TV and how the picure holds up when viewd off-angle.

I agree with the off brand but the picture is pretty good. It's 720P and 19" which looks just as good as my 65" 1080P I have in the house. Viewing angle is good also. I did buy a small mounting bracket from Best Buy for $30 and it allows you to adjust the angle downwards. Not sure if it's needed. I'm going to keep it the way it is but if needed it's a small and quick fix. From the lounger in the cockpit you can lay back and watch the TV with a good picture and decent sound. It's more than loud enough. Florimax (user on this site) bought the same Tv and he likes it as well.

4. Did you mount the TV so that it would clear (as in clear to the left or forward of) the vinyl-padded bulkhead that separates the galley from the v-berth area? This would allow the TV to retract a bit further into the cabinet, but with an 18" TV width (from the specs on your TV) I believe you'd either have to mount the TV a bit off-center towards the bow to clear the bulkhead or span the bulkhead and center the TV on the mount. Can you confirm this and tell me which option you chose? I figured a 17" width would clear the bulkhead and still remain centered on the mount, but 18" would likely not. Unfortunately, 18" was about the minimun width I could find in my search for 19" TVs. I'm guessing that you chose to mount the TV so that it would span the bulkhead, which is why your spacer was thicker than I thought it would have to be.

Yes, I had to off set it roughly an inch to the bow to get it to clear the bulkhead. With the TV being 19" and the wide format it looks fine. Most people wouldn;t be able to tell it's offset.

Thanks again, and I'm really looking forward to the photos of your upgrade!

 

[Gunn]

I'd love to see pictures of your new TV, or others with LCD setups in a 280DA.

On my 2003, I have the old VCR/CRT combo unit and have wondered where the factory mounted the LCD versions. It sounds like it's in the same place. So is that entire cabinet wasted space now? I can't afford any wasted space in this boat. I was thinking of replacing my CRT with an LED tv and mounting it to the side of the cabinet on a swing arm, and converted the CRT cabinet area into more storage space...

 

[russg]

Thanks for the detailed reply, very helpful. I agree that the 1" offset to forward in order to clear the bulkhead is the way to go. Let me know if you come up with a different solution for the spacer that closes your 1/2" gap. 2X4s are typically about 1.75" thick, so two of those adds up to 3.5", which means that a 3" spacer would just about cover it. Does that sound about right?

Russ

 

[Bucit]

Thanks for the detailed reply, very helpful. I agree that the 1" offset to forward in order to clear the bulkhead is the way to go. Let me know if you come up with a different solution for the spacer that closes your 1/2" gap. 2X4s are typically about 1.75" thick, so two of those adds up to 3.5", which means that a 3" spacer would just about cover it. Does that sound about right?Russ

Yea, 3"'s is just about right. I think I'm going to take the 4x4 on a table saw and trim it down for an exact fit. After I painted it with glossy black paint it looks pretty good. You can only see it when the TV is pulled out and turned and at that point I'm watching the TV and not staring at the 4x4 bracket right? I will get some pictures this weekend but not sure if I will have the 4x4 cut down by then. I just bought an Achilles inflatable with 8hp motor and I'm going to change out the water pump, put the jet ski on a trailer and put the inlfatable on the floating lift. I also have guest coming in form Orlando so it will be a busy week. Hopefully the weather holds. We haven't has rain in quite a hwile and now it's showing 60% chance for Saturday and Sunday.

 

[Bucit]

Ruusg, here are a few pictures of my TV install. I did cut the 4x4 down in size and it works out perfect.

 

[russg]

Thanks for the reply and the photos. I finished my project last week. I decided on a 19" 110V Vizio. Most of my TV watching is done from a high-def DISH reciever and the dish is mounted to the dock, so that means that I have access to shore power. So the need for a 12v tv really wasn't all that high, and there's always the genset. I left the 12v DVD player in place, but disconnected it in favor of a small Blu-ray player, which you can see on the shelf by the v-berth, forward of the TV. The DISH receiver is hidden away in the cabinet under the TV. It is controlled by an RF remote. This means that the TV is now fed by HDMI connections from both the DISH reciever and the BLu-ray player, which results in outstanding picture quality.

After mounting the TV using the existing mount, I discovered that there was a definite need to be able to tilt the TV vertically. If I was too far below the TV, such as when laying in the v-berth, the picture on the TV suffered due to an inappropriate viewing angle. I found a simple mount that allowed for a vertical tilt and that cut the need for a spacer down to 1". All in all, I think it came out fairly well. Here's some photos:

 

[Bucit]

Looks good! We use the DVD player the most for our 2 year old and her friends while out on the hook so the 12 volt TV was a must (well, I could always start up the genny but sometimes it's nice not to). Final products look pretty close. I had a mounting bracket from Best Buy that would allow vertical tilt but I took it back. The picture seemed OK from most viewing angles.

Enjoy!