Need advice/input on 48 Sundancer

We recently upgraded to a 2009 43 with the Zeus Pods (same boat as 2010 47) and I'm loving every minute of it...

Because of the pods the Boat turns like a jet ski... It's unreal....

Cruise at 2800 RPMs.. 30gph and 28 knots.... Handles like a champ

Went to Fire Island last weekend and used less gas than we used on our old 310..

And docking with the pods is fun.... A lot of fun...

Just my 2 cents but don't let all these guys talk you out of it...





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Rocket said:


JB - Rich is right on with the Platform, i dont have and easily launch and retrieve a 9 foot AB hardbottom and 8 HP motor with a block and tackle. I looked at alot of boats with full teak and in my opinion would be too much to maintain. My boat actually had no teak and we installed Flexteak, we love it, no maintenance, no fading, hose it down and go. View attachment 41634
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Looks great... Who did it for you? Someone local on the island?


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Thanks... Going to call him to get a quote


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Can anyone recommend and a broker/Insurance company? I have used Foremost in the past.

It would be great if you would share what you pay as reference, feel free to send me a PM.

Thank you
JB
 
Found a 48’ Sundancer, had a complete survey by both engine survey and full boat surveyor. The question/concern I have is that the engine surveyor has pointed out the aftercoolers and heat exchangers have never been serviced, this was confirmed from the service records. The running temps are higher than normal, at full throttle they show temps of 181/185 respectively. Engines have 500 hrs in saltwater. Surveyor says this service is way over due and could lead into potential greater problems. How concerned should I be about this and should the seller pay to have this completed prior to purchase?
 
JB MARSHALL said:
Found a 48’ Sundancer, had a complete survey by both engine survey and full boat surveyor. The question/concern I have is that the engine surveyor has pointed out the aftercoolers and heat exchangers have never been serviced, this was confirmed from the service records. The running temps are higher than normal, at full throttle they show temps of 181/185 respectively. Engines have 500 hrs in saltwater. Surveyor says this service is way over due and could lead into potential greater problems. How concerned should I be about this and should the seller pay to have this completed prior to purchase?
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In salt water they should be serviced every 2-3 years as your surveyor has probably informed you. Did you have oil samples taken? If there is salt water present in the oil from leaking past the aftercoolers than that is the point I would walk away. If the oil sample turns out fine then I would be asking the seller to pay for a full cooling system service and making sure that the after cooler cores are in good condition. Replacement cores aren't cheap and they aren't a part you want to take a chance with.

Good luck with it!

Paul
 
Agree with above if oil samples look good or you decide to move forward, I would handle one of two ways.

1) Have them do all the maintenance prior to closing

2) Get an estimate to do the complete raw water service (aftercoolers, heat exchangers and fuel/gear oil cooler). Also get an estimate to replace one of the aftercoolers (housing and core) and a core for the heat exchanger. With that many hours/years with no service its likely you will need to replace at least one aftercooler and heat exchanger core. Have them cover the costs for both the repair and the replacements.

Personally I like option 2 since you pick the mechanic and "know" it was done right, but of course the downside is if there is more than what was listed it will cost you extra.
 
JB MARSHALL said:
Found a 48’ Sundancer, had a complete survey by both engine survey and full boat surveyor. The question/concern I have is that the engine surveyor has pointed out the aftercoolers and heat exchangers have never been serviced, this was confirmed from the service records. The running temps are higher than normal, at full throttle they show temps of 181/185 respectively. Engines have 500 hrs in saltwater. Surveyor says this service is way over due and could lead into potential greater problems. How concerned should I be about this and should the seller pay to have this completed prior to purchase?
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JB, Almost every 48 we looked at when i asked about the aftercoolers they were never touched, so this is not uncommom. We had cummins do the Motor survey and he wrote up a list of deferred maintenance items the current owner never performed. My broker went back to them and we settled on a portion of the deferred maintenance. For after cooler Service Figure about $ 3500, Gear/fuel cooler service $400, Valve lash adjustment $400, crankshaft oil seals $1000, heat exchanger cleaning service $1500. If you are satisfied with the rest of the boat and she is clean, try to negotiate. Either way it will need to be done.
 
rcknecht said:
I was considering moving up to the 48 DA, but then I went on one... I assume you are on the Hudson.
I don't like the Zeus drives because they draw more water, require much more maintenance, and it you hit a log the are designed to fall off...
The 48 DA is a beautiful looking boat, but what I did not like about the 48 DA is that it felt confining. It felt small for such a big boat. You have to look through the windshield when driving, and if you aren't running the air it gets hot... For the money, I will look for an aft cabin or Sedan Bridge...
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Spot on ... I'd seriously consider a sedan bridge. The 48 DA is a great boat, but the sedan bridge offers more convenience, with an enclosed salon and the galley upstairs. A/C on the enclosed bridge and much more storage room. It makes a great difference when you're cruising for several days and staying on the boat.
Stay with straight shafts, easier maintenance.
 
Did not get oil samples surveyor said the hrs on the oil since last oil change were to low (just @10 hrs) for proper readings. Waiting to hear from the sellers as to what they are willing to do regarding the services needed to make this deal happen.
 
Update: We have finally come to an agreement on negotiations after the survey and I am excited to report we are moving forward with the purchase, we hope to close within 2 weeks :smt001
 
Congrats and good luck with the rest of the process.
 
Congrats. Your going to love your searay.


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Thank you all! We are very excited about getting to the close date, 12 days and counting.
I will post all the info once we take possession.

JB
 
We finally closed a week ago today, brought her home without issue and have been out a few times now. We absolutely love it!!! Tomorrow we will be hauling her for the winter layup, this will give me plenty of time to read the hundreds of pages of manuals and dream about next summer... LOL :smt001

I have so many questions about equipment and operations on this vessel and look to many of you for guidance.

I tried to post pics but the forum does not allow for the file size of my pics.


JB
 
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