My 18 yr old son "told" me he is getting a tattoo

I do ride a bike, but I am not you average biker. After owning 5 bikes, and 450,000 miles on 2 wheels, tell your son the following:
  • Rule # 1, the biker is always at fault. The biker must be 100% on his/her game always planning escape routes while driving.
  • Rule #2, When riding a bike, if the driver in the car does not make eye contact with you, they do not see you.
  • Rule #3, You have to anticipate actions of all other drivers around you. This includes the ones behind you.
  • Rule # 4, Your head must be on a swivel. You have to scan right from right in front of you out, to the left, to the right, to your rear view mirrors (both) all the time and to compute a 360 degree view and threats. See Rule #1
  • Rule #5, that car approaching does not see you if you do not have eye contact and will cut you off. See Rule #1 & #2 #3.
  • Rule #6, The car approaching from your rear, especially at a traffic light or stop sign, does not see you. See Rule #1 & #2 #3.
  • Rule #7, The car on a side street will pull out in front of you. See Rule #1 & #2 #3
  • Rule #8, There are fast bikers and old bikers, there are no fast old bikers.
  • Rule #9, It is not a matter of if you will go down, it is a matter of when you go down.
  • Rule #10, As applying rule #1, you must know how and when to put the bike down. Your only protection if you are going to take a hit, is to put your bike down in front of you and stay with it if possible. This requires skill.
  • The killing zone is for those bikers between 4,000 miles and 50,000 miles. To become an old biker, you must survive accidents or better yet escape them. This takes time and skill. The skill is reading all the drivers intentions before they take them. This is the right of survivorship.

I have been riding for 40 years on the street, several years in the dirt doing trail riding. The trail riding gave me great skills including putting down a bike without getting hurt. I have laid my bike down 4 times. The first 2 was within 15,000 miles of owning a bike. First one was in the rain the first time. I leaned over to far for wet roads and the bike came out underneath me. I slid 45 feet on my back. I was wearing a heavy denim coat, jeans, and a helmet. I walked away with no scratches. The second was on a highway @70 when I came around a corner and there was an accident hidden from view. My only escape route was removed had cars at speed entering the highway from the on ramp. I went from 70 to 25 skidding the bike strait to a free area, then slid the bike sideways until I laid it down with the bike in front of me.

My 3rd time was at around 230,000 miles, then again last year at 430,000 miles. So far I have cheated death and injury because of my skills. Up until last year, I rode 3 hours a day commuting to work, now I have a job 3 miles from the house, but still ride.

Helmets are important on the highway, but skills are more important than anything else. I have ridden in 4" snow, hours in the rain, as cold as -10 degrees, and 3 years ago, driving home from work, felt hail and watched the tornado come to the ground while I was traveling on the highway with no place to seek shelter. I do ride both with and without a helmet. On the highway always wear a helmet except when the temp is 95 & above. Around town, not so much. If there is going to be bad weather, I take the helmet.
 
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Update #2. Remember when I made this comment yesterday?
....Although, he was in a very good mood this morning...too good. All talkative and stuff. Either feeling guilty for popping off to me or SOMETHING IS UP...

well, I was right. I make it home late again last night, just drained again after another 14 hr day and there he is. I knew something was up. Although, it was a combination of feeling guilty AND something being up. His story was when he was dropping one of the girls off friday night he had a little accident. He somehow put a 3 ft scratch down the rear quarter panel of his car. Said he didnt see their mailbox when he was turning around (at 12:30 am no less). And, it's not one that can be buffed out.

I know where that &#@!$ tattoo money is going now. ...breathe, Tim, breathe...

So, guess who is getting their 480 sedan bridge waxed next weekend...
 
You got him by the balls now for that screw-up. :grin: . :smt038 . :lol:
 
Frankly - count yourself lucky. He doesn't have a tat; and now you got "leverage". Or at least the initiative.
 
Keep this in mind......It's a teenagers job to continually test the boundaries. It's not that he's trying to change the boundaries, he's doing it to make sure the boundaries are still in the same place they were yesterday!

Parent of 3 GFC
 
My daughter totalled her 2006 VW Passat yesterday - Driving her boyfriend to his cousin's graduation over a hundred miles away during the worst rainstorms Florida has seen in quite a long time. She hydroplaned, spun around, hit a wall head on, slid to a stop - on the Fl turnpike. My second question was, "Why are you using my car to drive your boyfriend hundreds of miles in the rain?" No judgement at age 20. They are bruised, but ok.

We have a very good friend who's face was obliterated in a motorcycle accident. SHE was forced off the road by a truck that didn't see her. It's been about 5 years and over 100 facial surgeries. She's doing well. Can't smell, taste, eyes don't water, and she (obviously) doesn't look the same, though she has made remarkable strides. She can't brush her own hair due to permanent shoulder damage.

I play hard ball with my kids and poor decisions (tattoos...). I let my older daughter get a bellybutton ring when she was 19 or 20, and still on my wallet. She let it heal over after never ending infections.

I took the VW away from my younger daughter for 2 weeks this time last year when she came home from college knowing everything, refusing to make her bed or keep her room or bathroom (our guest bathroom) picked up. She said "I don't understand why I need to make my bed when I'm just going to mess it up again later, so I don't make it." I lost it when she dis-respected my wife. I hid the car in a neighbor's garage and took the key.

She asked if we had seen her car key. I said no (she doesn't OWN a car, so she doesn't OWN a key). Then she went to look in her car. "Where is my car?" I told her, "A very bright young lady taught me that if I don't understand why I am doing something, then I don't need to do it. I couldn't understand why I would provide a beautiful car and pay most of the bills for a young lady that won't make her bed or keep her room clean, so I'm not going to anymore."

Her first response was to head down the street with her purse to "Go to a friend's house." (None nearby.) I told her to not be stupid. She came back groveling after a couple of hours. I let her borrow my VW to go to work for a week, asking politely each and every day, after making her bed and cleaning up her room and bathroom. The second week, I let her ask to borrow it for things other than work. After two weeks, her privileges were restored. She keeps her room relatively clean.

I told her today that she better hope that her car is not a total loss because she isn't going to like the next one. I can't provide her with nice cars to watch her drive it all over everywhere without any judgement. Besides, the reason they always take her car is that it's the nicest one (WAS).

Tattoos - My bills, my body. When you pay your bills, it's your body. I play hard ball. I take things away very, very fast. On the other hand, you have to pick your battles. If it's hidden, then it's their own problem. If it's a tramp stamp, well, then let them be a tramp.
 
I have 4. 1st one was during college. My sister ratted me out to my parents on my wedding day. Not much they could do at that point. All are hidden under shirt except the ankle (small fraternity letters) My wife talked me into the arm band on the left, and I got the phoenix on my right arm after tearing my achilles in 2008, and after re-hab, my team took 2nd at USA Volleyball Nationals at age 40. So, I don't regret them at all. Yes, the ankle has faded because I rarely remember to put sunscreen on it, but otherwise the colors have held up nice.

I'm sure I stressed my parents out plenty, and my parents had the "our money, our rules" philosophy. However, I managed to get through college, get into and through dental school, served in the Air Force for 4 years, and now run a successful dental practice. I don't think the ink matters much. Again, they are covered at work.

My 16 year old wants one. Her mother is flat out against it, but I really don't care once she turns 18 as long as it doesn't interfere with her future professional choices. Tattoo's are much more common now than in the past. Sorry for you old guys, but accept it. (just kidding!)
Mike
 
When I was married before I had continuing problems with a step-son who decided he wanted his mother and I to separate and he did everything in his power to make that happen. My wife (at the time) and I ended up going to counseling over it and the counselor suggested an idea that worked very well.

When the little jerk wouldn't do what he was asked I would say "Well Scott, I can see that today you're being a bit uncooperative and have chosen not to take out the trash. That's OK, because we all have those days when we're making choices like that. So I'll take the trash out today. Don't worry about it."

He grew to like that idea and became less and less cooperative.....until I dropped the hammer on him. He came to me one afternoon and said their school was having an after school activity the next day that he wanted to attend. He was only 14 so needed a ride, and his mother would be working. I looked at him and simply said "No, I don't think so."

When he started to flip out over it I simply said, "You know Scott, I'm having one of those days when I'm feeling uncooperative so I'm just saying 'no'. You know what I'm talking about, because you've had them over not taking the garbage out or not keeping your room clean. So, I guess if you can choose to be uncooperative, so can I, so the answer is 'no'."

It only took a couple of times if me telling him "no" that he caught on and made the connection between him not doing a chore and me not letting him do something he wanted to do. His mother pitched a beatch about it until I reminded her that it was what the counselor said to do. Wasn't too long after that I filed the divorce paperwork.

It's all about the choices we make and being accountable for them.
 
Once in a while I’ve seen tats that actually look good on the person wearing them, but not to often. Even then I wonder how they’ll look years later. I’ve heard the arguments about them being artistic expressions of ones individuality, but mostly I just think it’s a fad fueled by peer pressure. The subject came up with my son years ago and I got the standard answers like ‘I can do it if I want, it’s my body’. Several of his peers had gotten tats and there was no doubt he was feeling the pressure. I suggested to him that he could show his individuality by not standing in the long line to the tattoo parlor. I challenged him to be the rebel in his group by not getting one. He has made it to the ripe old age of 32 without a tat and I don’t think he’ll be sporting any ink in the future. My daughter now 39 was the same. I asked her if she still thought about getting one and teasingly said maybe she could go get one with her daughter in a couple years… she just rolled her eyes and said “oh god, I hope I don’t have to deal with that crap”.:smt043

In fairness, there are many real life path altering choices our kids could make without conferring with us first, so maybe just coming home with a tat really wouldn’t be so bad.
 
I have one already with two more planned. Each has a special meaning to me. Each is/will be easy to hide with normal clothing.

I have seen many people get one to "be cool" and wind up regretting it. If it has a meaning/story thats special to you than sure get one.

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I have one. Got it when I was 33. I am 36 now. Do not regret it because of the meaning. And as long as I don't wear a sleeveless shirt it is hidden with clothes.
 
My son first hit me up about getting his ears pierced at 15, and the tatoo request soon followed. I told him "no" to both with the compromise that he could color and style his hair any way he wanted, no limits, knowing that it would always grow out. He had black hair with purple spikes, a blond mohawk, green hair, blue hair.....you name it, he tried it. Did I like it, HELL NO, but I knew it gave him the individuality he wanted and that he would eventually outgrow this need. He is 26 today and glad that his body is clean and he didn't get that tat of his favorite band or some other snap decision of permanent ink.
 
got my tattoo of my cat!
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Personally, I think this

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looks better than this!

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It certainly does! Wonder what on earth the tats will look like when she's 60! Have seen some awful tats, even on women in our Audiology clinics and when they are older (as most of our patients are) they look just plain awful..... faded and stretched.....makes them look really unatractive. What may be hip and look okay (if you like that type of thing) at 20 sure as hell does not at 60+.
 
I have a friend who is a gunny and a recruiter for the USMC. His son joined to follow in his dads steps. While at the dinner table a couple nights before entering boot he displays the bulldog.

My friend says "what have you done"? The boy says he couldn't wait until after boot and wanted to wear it during training. Gunny tells him not to come knocking on the door with any complaints about the DI's cause the dog wasn't earned.

They would wake this boy at 0200 hours every night to walk the dog for an hour. The the dog was the first to go over every obstacle and qualify on every range before any other boot in his unit. When he graduated the dog stood proud but what a tough way to earn it.

A few of my married daughters have the names of my grandchildren as tat's in discrete places and one son-in-law with many tats including a full size dragon on his back. This guy is the most dependable worker and family guy. My daughter is able to stay home with my 2 grand kids while he works. All 5 of my son-in-laws are hard workers and spend their money and time on the family first. I am blessed.

I have a sixteen year old coming on. Let's see how that work out.:smt101
 
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