Sun&moon34Ray
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what can be done if anything with the maple cabinets in my 2000 sundancer 340 that look hazy
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what can be done if anything with the maple cabinets in my 2000 sundancer 340 that look hazy
ThanksI would like to educate everyone on laminate but some on here will disagree especially people who charge for restoration work but considering I've been working with laminate since 1971 and owned my own custom cabinet shop for the last 30 years I got a little experience with it, so laminate is made up of thin layers of paper with a color sheet, then a sheet with the grain pattern and finally the top layer which is a piece of clear plastic, this then goes into a oven and heated an goes into a press and is pressed together under pressure. All laminate comes out with with a gloss finish, if the finish is satin then the laminate has been sanded to obtain that finish. The outside clear sheet on laminate is porus to some degree which is why you have to be careful with it. Some things affect it more than others. Shops all use lacquer thinner to clean the glue off of it. The hazing is more than likely moisture getting under the clear for a number of reasons. Unused laminate has a shelf life on how long its good to work with which varies with how it is stored. It gets brittle which means it will crack easy and it will start to bow from moisture getting it to it from the back side from moisture because its not cleared. There are 3 grades of laminate, 1-verticle grade which is used for cabinet faces usually 1/32" thick, 2-post forming which is used for rolled counter top or any other rolled edge items and 3-standard grade 1/16" thick which is used for flat surface counter tops. Price wise verticle is least expensive up to standard being most expensive. The are many companies making laminate with Wilson Art being one of the better in quality which is one of the brands you will see at Lowes or Home Depot. The laminate in your see ray boats is supplied for just them or the companies that make their casework ( cabinets ) which is why its so hard to get and also why they charge so much. Some off the prices I see on here are just out of sight!! If you want to change the color in your boat you can order laminate from Lowes or Home Depot in any of their woodgrain colors and you can get them in gloss or satin or go to a cabinet shop and get them to order it. I don't know what Lowes or Home Depot charges but my cost for verticle grade is $2 a square foot for colors $2.20 / sq ft for gloss wood grain last I checked which works out to $64 for a 4 x 8 sheet to $70 for gloss. Also some people are going to tell you there stuff is marine grade which is bs according to all my suppliers. One last thing is do not use the contact cement you can get at Lowe or Home Depot as its water or chlorine based and is JUNK!! You need To go to a cabinet shop and get solvent based which is basicly dissolved rubber products in a lacquer solvent which can't be sold to the private user because of the flamability of it and it will get you high as a kite without ventalation. Hope this helps and clears up things for everyone.
I would like to educate everyone on laminate but some on here will disagree especially people who charge for restoration work but considering I've been working with laminate since 1971 and owned my own custom cabinet shop for the last 30 years I got a little experience with it, so laminate is made up of thin layers of paper with a color sheet, then a sheet with the grain pattern and finally the top layer which is a piece of clear plastic, this then goes into a oven and heated an goes into a press and is pressed together under pressure. All laminate comes out with with a gloss finish, if the finish is satin then the laminate has been sanded to obtain that finish. The outside clear sheet on laminate is porus to some degree which is why you have to be careful with it. Some things affect it more than others. Shops all use lacquer thinner to clean the glue off of it. The hazing is more than likely moisture getting under the clear for a number of reasons. Unused laminate has a shelf life on how long its good to work with which varies with how it is stored. It gets brittle which means it will crack easy and it will start to bow from moisture getting it to it from the back side from moisture because its not cleared. There are 3 grades of laminate, 1-verticle grade which is used for cabinet faces usually 1/32" thick, 2-post forming which is used for rolled counter top or any other rolled edge items and 3-standard grade 1/16" thick which is used for flat surface counter tops. Price wise verticle is least expensive up to standard being most expensive. The are many companies making laminate with Wilson Art being one of the better in quality which is one of the brands you will see at Lowes or Home Depot. The laminate in your see ray boats is supplied for just them or the companies that make their casework ( cabinets ) which is why its so hard to get and also why they charge so much. Some off the prices I see on here are just out of sight!! If you want to change the color in your boat you can order laminate from Lowes or Home Depot in any of their woodgrain colors and you can get them in gloss or satin or go to a cabinet shop and get them to order it. I don't know what Lowes or Home Depot charges but my cost for verticle grade is $2 a square foot for colors $2.20 / sq ft for gloss wood grain last I checked which works out to $64 for a 4 x 8 sheet to $70 for gloss. Also some people are going to tell you there stuff is marine grade which is bs according to all my suppliers. One last thing is do not use the contact cement you can get at Lowe or Home Depot as its water or chlorine based and is JUNK!! You need To go to a cabinet shop and get solvent based which is basicly dissolved rubber products in a lacquer solvent which can't be sold to the private user because of the flamability of it and it will get you high as a kite without ventalation. Hope this helps and clears up things for everyone.