Long winter at the range

[Arminius]

My boat is out of its slip in the marina and winterized outside my house, not in the garage. What will I do this winter? One option is to shoot a lot. I've got a couple plugs for stores I like, hoping I am not violating any rules. It looks like Euro Optics fought a battle with the Feds over their right to enforce stupid state laws. I live in what used to be called the "48th Commissariat" and am happy to report the feds lost and this is a precedent.
Also Precise Shooter in Woodinville, WA will help you with your pistol purchases if you come in personally. The Taurus TH9 is a hammer fired pistol that compares very favorably with my Sig 2022 and costs less than $300. The problem is that there are no 10 rd mags available for it. There is a compact version but my experience is that accuracy increases with size.

 

[Timeflys]

the Feds over their right to enforce stupid state laws.

Don’t complain … only criminals can access handguns in Canada now.

 

[Scott215]

Waiting for LTC for me and wife

 

[Arminius]

The TH9 is holding up. It still has a heavier trigger than the Sig. I've switched my grip to put my left forefinger around the trigger guard to counteract the force of my trigger finger when I squeeze. The Sig failed to go into battery till I cleaned the big horizontal mating parts. After cleaning, the take down lever sometimes is not fully snapped in and springs may need replacement. Slugs were keyholing, having lost stabilization because the rifling was full of carbon. The Sig has superior accuracy on account of the light trigger. There have been other complaints about erratic triggers on the TH9. The latter's trigger would not be "heavy" if it were my only pistol. Striker fired pistols scare me as few (my Walther excepted) have "cocked" indicators. The parts blow-up on the TH-9 shows it has an actual blocking plate when the hammer is down. The relatively light polymer compact version is my recommendation to the new gun, defense oriented purchaser. Carry it with one in the chamber, 17 in the mag, and the hammer down. Even has a safety! Thumb the hammer back and fire 18 time! This is "Easy rack" by design as thumbing the hammer back first makes working the slide EZ!

 

[Arminius]

The plastic holster for the TH-9 arrived. Less complicated than a gun case when going to the range in this open-carry state. The pistol locks in and is released by a push button. You could carry it at the docks without fear your pistol would join all the dropped and sunken tools. Kinda big for vermin though and I selected my TX-22 after being confronted by a nutria. Ugly beaver went to defecate on someone else's boat though. Smart animal, saw the red dot screwed directly to that .22s extended and threaded barrel.

 

[Stee6043]

The plastic holster for the TH-9 arrived. Less complicated than a gun case when going to the range in this open-carry state. The pistol locks in and is released by a push button. You could carry it at the docks without fear your pistol would join all the dropped and sunken tools. Kinda big for vermin though and I selected my TX-22 after being confronted by a nutria. Ugly beaver went to defecate on someone else's boat though. Smart animal, saw the red dot screwed directly to that .22s extended and threaded barrel.

Do you open carry with it holstered while driving? How do you ensure it's not unintentionally concealed by a shirt, seat belt, beaver pelt, car console?

 

[LTD.330]

Please tell me you didn't buy a Blackhawk Serpa holster. That holster requires your index finger to depress a button on the side of the holster to allow the gun to be removed. The issue is that as the gun is being extracted, your index finger is sliding up the holster, when it clears the holster, it is lined up with the opening in the trigger guard and the finger can accidentally depress the trigger. Most training schools have banned the Serpa.

A quality holster is designed specifically for the gun and should have enough retention the gun won't fall out even if you hold the gun and holster upside down and shake.

Open carry is a horrible idea for many reasons, please don't do it. Here are a couple links explaining why.

Friends Don't Let Friends Open Carry

Written by Greg Ellifritz It's no secret that I'm not a fan of open carry (carrying an unconcealed handgun or long gun in public). Except in a hunting context or in very rural

www.activeresponsetraining.net

The Perils of Open Carry

Written by: Greg Ellifritz As of today, every state in the USA has some type of provision to allow citizens obtain a permit to carry a concealed handgun while engaged in lawful activity. In

www.activeresponsetraining.net

Rule 1: All guns are always loaded. You don't need to worry about whether the striker fired gun is cocked or not, just assume that it is until you manually verify the firearm's status.

 

[Arminius]

Do you open carry with it holstered while driving? How do you ensure it's not unintentionally concealed by a shirt, seat belt, beaver pelt, car console?

We have complicated laws dealing with carrying. While driving, my firearms are locked inside a safe, a converted cash drawer, attached to the rear deck. If you have a concealed carry permit (mine expired years ago), the pistol should be on your person while driving. There are special lenient laws if you are going to or returning from a range set up as a club. A holstered gun is heavy and drag my pants down so a separate gunbelt is required. The Taurus is a cheap Brazillian gun and my comments were contrarian, as usual. When you buy a pistol, the dealer always gives you a thick pamphlet containing all the pertinet laws. I do have a good war story but I will hold it back.

 

[Arminius]

Please tell me you didn't buy a Blackhawk Serpa holster. That holster requires your index finger to depress a button on the side of the holster to allow the gun to be removed. The issue is that as the gun is being extracted, your index finger is sliding up the holster, when it clears the holster, it is lined up with the opening in the trigger guard and the finger can accidentally depress the trigger. Most training schools have banned the Serpa.

A quality holster is designed specifically for the gun and should have enough retention the gun won't fall out even if you hold the gun and holster upside down and shake.

Open carry is a horrible idea for many reasons, please don't do it. Here are a couple links explaining why.

Friends Don't Let Friends Open Carry

Written by Greg Ellifritz It's no secret that I'm not a fan of open carry (carrying an unconcealed handgun or long gun in public). Except in a hunting context or in very rural

www.activeresponsetraining.net

The Perils of Open Carry

Written by: Greg Ellifritz As of today, every state in the USA has some type of provision to allow citizens obtain a permit to carry a concealed handgun while engaged in lawful activity. In

www.activeresponsetraining.net

Rule 1: All guns are always loaded. You don't need to worry about whether the striker fired gun is cocked or not, just assume that it is until you manually verify the firearm's status.

A $10 off coupon came with the TH9 so I used it to buy the Taurus holster. I'm still getting over my surprise at the effectiveness of the plastic holsters. Certainly not as venerable as an old leather holster though.
The crazies behind the counter at the Bellevue gun club encouraged Susan to buy a Macro w/o a safety. They are supposed to be the experts spouting gun safety. Striker fired Sigs are w
ounding a substantial number of the cops who carry them. DAO has a lot to be said for it.

 

[Arminius]

The plastic holster for the TH-9 arrived. Less complicated than a gun case when going to the range in this open-carry state. The pistol locks in and is released by a push button. You could carry it at the docks without fear your pistol would join all the dropped and sunken tools. Kinda big for vermin though and I selected my TX-22 after being confronted by a nutria. Ugly beaver went to defecate on someone else's boat though. Smart animal, saw the red dot screwed directly to that .22s extended and threaded barrel.

The upshot is I got an X5 pellet pistol for shooting in my back yard. It looks like, and is as heavy as a Sig 226. It has an elevation adjustment. However, the invasive species was never seen again and did not leave its spoor on my swim platform.

 

[Arminius]

The rangemaster/trainer was watching me on his CCTV and told me I was holding my gun wrong. This was about as welcome as a hypothetical girlfriend telling me I'm doing it wrong during one of those young interludes. It is a new challenge though and I have marked a thumbprint spot on the back of my left hand. Picture to follow.

 

[OllieC]

Notes to self:
1. Avoid purchasing boats from the Seattle area.

2. Avoid gun ranges in the Seattle area.

 

[Arminius]

The TH9 trigger loosened up after I dabbed the trigger's mating parts with moly anti-seize, the trigger job in a tube. Tension is supplied by the hammer spring so that could not be weakened. Hard to make out the parts diagram but I believe the parts are the hammer catch and the sear. They are shiny and burnished with 1500 rds but this silver stuff seemed to help.

Susan gets a lane with a wall to her left as she does not want hat hair but throws a fit when hot brass hits it. I shoot to her right as I wear a hat as hot brass once dropped behind my glasses but lodged on my cheek, leaving a burn. I had new curved glasses made and added the upper safety shields from shop glasses.

We each fire six 17rd clips. The power return allows distance matching although "we are not competing." Susan is a natural but shoots a smaller Macro. I like my 15 rd Sig duty pistol with the slightly protruding mag for a pinky grip.

 

[GypsmJim]

The TH9 trigger loosened up after I dabbed the trigger's mating parts with moly anti-seize, the trigger job in a tube. Tension is supplied by the hammer spring so that could not be weakened. Hard to make out the parts diagram but I believe the parts are the hammer catch and the sear. They are shiny and burnished with 1500 rds but this silver stuff seemed to help.

Susan gets a lane with a wall to her left as she does not want hat hair but throws a fit when hot brass hits it. I shoot to her right as I wear a hat as hot brass once dropped behind my glasses but lodged on my cheek, leaving a burn. I had new curved glasses made and added the upper safety shields from shop glasses.

We each fire six 17rd clips. The power return allows distance matching although "we are not competing." Susan is a natural but shoots a smaller Macro. I like my 15 rd Sig duty pistol with the slightly protruding mag for a pinky grip.

If YOUR brass hits you in the face, you need to buy and shoot something other than a budget Taurus.

If your neighbor's brass hits you in the face you need to go to a range that meets NRA standards.

Of course, the optimum solution is to buy quality firearms and build your own private range out in the country.

 

[GypsmJim]

Or get a revolver.

Anybody that's anybody has both. Throw an Encore .308 Winchester 15" barrel into the mix and now you got something...

 

[highslice]

If YOUR brass hits you in the face, you need to buy and shoot something other than a budget Taurus.

If your neighbor's brass hits you in the face you need to go to a range that meets NRA standards.

Of course, the optimum solution is to buy quality firearms and build your own private range out in the country.

I actually bought a Taurus because I preferred how it shot compared to Sigs and Glocks. I didn't have a budget. I can put 13 of 13 rounds in the 6" diameter center ring of the targets at 25 yards I use with my G2c. Of my three 9's and my .45, the Taurus is my favorite. On the range, I agree with you. My range has partitions from floor to ceiling about 4' wide. No brass hitting anyone.

 

[GypsmJim]

I actually bought a Taurus because I preferred how it shot compared to Sigs and Glocks. I didn't have a budget. I can put 13 of 13 rounds in the 6" diameter center ring of the targets at 25 yards I use with my G2c. Of my three 9's and my .45, the Taurus is my favorite. On the range, I agree with you. My range has partitions from floor to ceiling about 4' wide. No brass hitting anyone.

I own Taurus revolvers because they compare favorably to the competition. Taurus pistols don't compare that well. If you get brass in the face, you need a Shield or a Ruger. Six inches at 25 yards isn't bragging rites.

 

[highslice]

I own Taurus revolvers because they compare favorably to the competition. Taurus pistols don't compare that well. If you get brass in the face, you need a Shield or a Ruger. Six inches at 25 yards isn't bragging rites.

I don't get brass in the face. I have a Ruger and it's a POS. I should have phrased that differently, the targets have a 6" center ring. I get a much smaller pattern. That is point and shoot. But anyway, I wasn't trying to brag. If you don't like Taurus semi autos, well that's your preference. I preferred it to the Shield for sure.

 

[Bill Curtis]

I own Taurus revolvers because they compare favorably to the competition. Taurus pistols don't compare that well. If you get brass in the face, you need a Shield or a Ruger. Six inches at 25 yards isn't bragging rites.

In a CQW defensive application, the 6" of center mass would work (for me anyway). I'm not looking for MoA in that situation, looking for MoM (minute of man) to stop a threat. Easy for my H&K USP45

 

[OllieC]

I own Taurus revolvers because they compare favorably to the competition. Taurus pistols don't compare that well. If you get brass in the face, you need a Shield or a Ruger. Six inches at 25 yards isn't bragging rites.

I need to practice more - or better yet training. I have Ruger SS P94 .40SW, that is as heavy as a boat anchor as well as a Ruger 380 LCP. At 25 yards, if I were to aim at a perps head, I’d take out his nutsack.

I also have a Ruger Mark IV Hunter .22. This by far is my favorite pistol. I have been using it to help with the larger calibers.

BTW - not a Ruger fanboy, I just happened to acquire the .40, the LCP fits nice in the front pocket, and the MarkIV Hunter in my opinion is the best .22 pistol on the market.