Kenyon Stove soot on pots and pans...

Rohan

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Jan 23, 2012
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Pittwater and the Hawkesbury River, Sydney, Austra
Boat Info
2008 Sea Ray 275 Sundancer, NorthStar 657 Chartplotter, 2.4m fibreglass tender 3.3 Mercury O/B
Engines
350 Mag SeaCore Bravo III drive
My 260DA is fitted with the standard Kenyon 213 Alcohol/Electric Combination Stove. The boat is a 2008 however I believe the previous owner never used the stove (with alcohol) as the plastic filler bottle was still wraped in plastic and the central wick material was pristine - so assume it is a "new" stove. I am following the directions in the manual however I cannot get anything other than a bright yellow flame which soots up every pot, pan and kettle I use. This is also a tall flame - compared to what I expect the intended "blue" flame to be so the pot has the effect of spreading the flame out around the sides of the pot, heating up and distorting the air deflector assembly in the process. The control wheel just seems to reduce the number of exposed burner jets yet the flame remains yellow and tall - not blue as it is supposed to be. Is there a trick to this that I am missing? I have also noticed there is some sort of material inside the tank, like a wadding of some type. Is that supposed to be there? It is not mentioned in the instruction manual. I can only assume it is intended like a baffle to stop the alcohol from sloshing around inside the tank?

I have used other alcohol stoves in the past and am familiar with how the flame should look.

I am using denatured alcohol (sold here as Methylated Spirits) but same product...

You can see from the photo what I am talking about. The discoloration of the air deflector has been caused by this.

Any help would be appreciated as the soot is driving me mad!:smt100
 

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Lite off some of the fuel in a metal container to see if it burns clear. If it burns clear the tank is contaminated. If it smokes the fuel is contaminated.
 
Lite off some of the fuel in a metal container to see if it burns clear. If it burns clear the tank is contaminated. If it smokes the fuel is contaminated.
Thanks for that. I think the tank is new and unused, but I will try it on the weekend.
 
Is there an air setting on those? My pressurized Kenyon needs the air adjusted by twisting the burner to achieve a blue flame.
 
I can't help with the stove but I can help with the soot. If you coat the bottom and side of your pan with Dawn dish soap and let it dry on then use it to cook the soap will be a barrier for the pot. I use this trick a lot when camping. The pot will be as clean as new.
 
My 260DA is fitted with the standard Kenyon 213 Alcohol/Electric Combination Stove. The boat is a 2008 however I believe the previous owner never used the stove (with alcohol) as the plastic filler bottle was still wraped in plastic and the central wick material was pristine - so assume it is a "new" stove. I am following the directions in the manual however I cannot get anything other than a bright yellow flame which soots up every pot, pan and kettle I use. This is also a tall flame - compared to what I expect the intended "blue" flame to be so the pot has the effect of spreading the flame out around the sides of the pot, heating up and distorting the air deflector assembly in the process. The control wheel just seems to reduce the number of exposed burner jets yet the flame remains yellow and tall - not blue as it is supposed to be. Is there a trick to this that I am missing? I have also noticed there is some sort of material inside the tank, like a wadding of some type. Is that supposed to be there? It is not mentioned in the instruction manual. I can only assume it is intended like a baffle to stop the alcohol from sloshing around inside the tank?

I have used other alcohol stoves in the past and am familiar with how the flame should look.

I am using denatured alcohol (sold here as Methylated Spirits) but same product...

You can see from the photo what I am talking about. The discoloration of the air deflector has been caused by this.

Any help would be appreciated as the soot is driving me mad!:smt100

Rohan,
My boat is 2005 and I have the same single burner alcohol/electric stove as you have.

PO used it regularly while away from dock since no genny, but I installed inverter and use it with two power choice, so I didn't have any problem as you have in three years..


I’m using ethyl alcohol and not sure if it’s different from what you use, but I’ve never see yellow flame nor smoke and/or soot.

Dou you fully open the flame control cap if half ol near closed it won't get enough air to burn the alcohol like a carburated engines left open choke. I always open it fully untill all burner jetss got blue flame and than quarter turn close it because center flame arises 5-6 cm.


Also it heats up quicker than electric even set to 10.


Here a few pics of stove while cooking to compare with your pic.

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Hope this helps.
 
I can't help with the stove but I can help with the soot. If you coat the bottom and side of your pan with Dawn dish soap and let it dry on then use it to cook the soap will be a barrier for the pot. I use this trick a lot when camping. The pot will be as clean as new.

Thanks Jason - I'll try that until I resolve the soot issue.
 
Sounds like a lean flame, not enough air getting in for complete combustion. Are all the holes clean? Is there no way you can adjust or regulate the air?
 
Sounds like a lean flame, not enough air getting in for complete combustion. Are all the holes clean? Is there no way you can adjust or regulate the air?
I would assume the holes to be clean, the stove had never been used before so it's effectively new. There appears no ability to regulate the air unfortunately. I can't believe others haven't had the same problem.
 

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