It's Halftime in America... After taxpayers lose $1.3 Billion???

MonacoMike said:
If it were not for these "reforms" most of the money would flow to the politicians to get out their message and THEY could be held responsible for the content in the court of public opinion. As it is the money now flows to aggregators who curry favor and have little accountability to the public. What part of the 1st amendment do these campaign finance reformers not get? I am confident you will agree that any law written and approved by elected politicians, including campaign finance reform, are written as job security and re-election provisions.
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True on all counts.

MonacoMike said:
People that own companies together, through corporations, have the right to speak up in elections through their corporations. It is funny that many media corporations talking heads bash the "Citizens United' decision while expecting government types to "allow" them to continue to say what they will just because the are "media".
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Also true.
And. . if the media was truly as biased as many claim. . they don't actually have to *accept* the political advertising. ;)
And. . .yes it is funny how Fox continues to expect the government to "allow" them to continue to say what they will, just because they are "media". ;)


So. . yes. . .unrestricted 1st ammendment . .. leads to unrestrictriced political discourse. . . .leads to unrestricted money in political advertising.
So this is democracy in action. A good thing.

I guess we are balancing the poor masses voting to tax all the wealth of the rich while the rich finance all the politicians that actually write those tax laws. Hmmmm.

I remember this sayingl: Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on the lunch menu.

Sometimes it is not easy telling which ones are the wolves.
Makes for good talk over beer.
 
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comsnark said:
I remember this saying: Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on the lunch menu.

Sometimes it is not easy telling which ones are the wolves.
Makes for good talk over beer.
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This was funnier!!!

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...So now we find out that the spot was created by; "creative professionals " that "privately supported Barack Obama in the 2008 election." I'll bet we learn even more about this in the coming days.


"This year’s most discussed Super Bowl ad—a two-minute spot for Chrysler narrated by Clint Eastwood—continues to generate controversy in conservative political circles, where a host of questions have been raised about the automaker’s alleged motives for commissioning the advertisement.
In the days ahead, similar politically charged queries also are likely to be raised about the highly regarded Portland Oregon-based ad agency that produced the spot—Wieden+Kennedy, some of whose key creative professionals privately supported Barack Obama in the 2008 election."

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/clint-eastwood-chrysler-super-bowl-commercial-287778

MM
 
Someone employed by the ad firm may have voted for (or heaven forbid donated money to ) Obama in an election?

Oh the scandal!
Oh the horror!
Hide the women and children!

"FauxRage" is the term I have heard used to describe this kind of stuff.
 
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Let's take this a step further: Chrysler is a corporation.

The Democrats pushed through legislation that saved the company, as well as a major competitor. Arguably, the Democrats saved the American auto industry.

Chrysler is now a publically traded company. Logically, it could be reasonable for the managers to conclude that Republicans do not support their company, and that a Republican Congress and Republican President would decrease shareholder value. Under Citizens United, there is *ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WRONG* with this company spending MILLIONS, if not BILLIONS on campaign adds emphasizing what would be left of the US auto industry if the Republican party had it's way.

Management would be negligent to their shareholders if they did not spend a "reasonable" sum ensuring that the Republican party role in government was reduced. If the shareholders disagree with Management, they can replace the bums with management that they agree with.

You are worried about employess of the ad agency might be Obama supporters? Dude. . .this is 2012. The company can *legally* and *without disclosure* directly fund a full blown smear campaign against any politician they want. Or supportive adds. Or both. Facts are bothersome, and truth is by coincidence only. This is FREE SPEECH.
 
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Even the ad industry folks think it is all connected. The first order of business for the re-election campaign is to try to turn around public thinking that the bailouts were bad and these are "American" companies that the president saved. The companies themselves do ads promoting this. I'm not saying Obama coordinated this with Chrysler, but it is no secret what would be beneficial to the President, and that it was prepared by an ad shop that has done work for Obama and is a democratic source of talent. We both have enough of a healthy distrust of government and crony capitalism to understand at the very least how this looks.

MM
 
Just saw this; they didn't even shoot the ad in Detroit.

"Chrysler's tagline is "Imported From Detroit," but when it came to shooting this year's Super Bowl commercial, most of the job got exported to other locales. According to The Weekly Standard, much of the footage in the Chrysler ad, starring and narrated by actor Clint Eastwood, was shot in Los Angeles and New Orleans. The only footage of Detroit used in the "Halftime in America" commercial wasn't shot specifically for this year's ad, according to the report."

http://www.autoblog.com/2012/02/07/halftime-in-america-primarily-filmed-in-la-new-orleans/

MM
 
Mike;

They are grousing because the commercial was shot in another part of the country? But still in the U.S.? Is it another slow news day?
 
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