Is this the real reason for rising crime?

highslice said:
Brandon and Eric Adams are claiming illegal guns are the reason for the massive increase in gun crimes, not the soft on crime DAs. Really? ...:rolleyes:
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boatman37 said:
Philadelphia
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Actually, Philadelphia is unusual among large northeastern cities in that it does not have "tough" gun laws. The Pennsylvania state constitution has a more explicit provision protecting the right of an individual to bear arms in self defense than the Second Amendment. As a result, Philadelphia is a "shall issue" carry permit jurisdiction. All you need for a carry permit is a clean record, there is not even a training requirement. There are frequent stories in the local media about would-be victims defending themselves with their legally-carried guns. Somehow, those stories don't seem to make it to the national media very often.
 
lawndoctor said:
Actually, Philadelphia is unusual among large northeastern cities in that it does not have "tough" gun laws. The Pennsylvania state constitution has a more explicit provision protecting the right of an individual to bear arms in self defense than the Second Amendment. As a result, Philadelphia is a "shall issue" carry permit jurisdiction. All you need for a carry permit is a clean record, there is not even a training requirement. There are frequent stories in the local media about would-be victims defending themselves with their legally-carried guns. Somehow, those stories don't seem to make it to the national media very often.
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Thought I remembered about 15 or so years ago they had pretty strict gun laws? Thought I heard something like they would not honor out of county CCW permits or something?
 
boatman37 said:
Thought I remembered about 15 or so years ago they had pretty strict gun laws? Thought I heard something like they would not honor out of county CCW permits or something?
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Can cities / counties preempt state law in PA?
 
firecadet613 said:
Can cities / counties preempt state law in PA?
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Nope. Philadelphia tries to pass local legislation limiting concealed carry every few years (typically when a new mayor comes in), and the state courts strike them down as unconstitutional. All it does is make headlines for the politicians and waste a lot of taxpayer dollars on useless litigation. Not only that, Pennsylvania is an open carry state. Paradoxically, in a "city of the first class" (meaning Philadelphia and Pittsburgh), state law requires a concealed carry permit in order to carry openly. But open carry is fine anywhere else in the state. As James Carville said, Pennsylvania has Philadelphia at one end, Pittsburgh at the other end, and everything in between is Alabama (no offense to anyone from Alabama).
 
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Woody said:
It shows, whites are killed 81% by whites, and 16% by black

Blacks are killed 89% by blacks, and 8% by whites
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I agree, thats why I have no idea why its everyones problem blacks are killing each other. It seems to me that currently that they need to fear another black man more than any white guy or cop.
 
RBB said:
I agree, thats why I have no idea why its everyones problem blacks are killing each other. It seems to me that currently that they need to fear another black man more than any white guy or cop.
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That doesn't fit the narrative. I'm pretty sure that dead guy doesn't know or care what color skin his murderer had. Maybe if the same race, he's just dead but opposite race and he's dead dead?? I don't get it.
 
It is confusing, and I for one think the narrative is bullshit then.
Those guy's on TV that fan the flames don't live in the war zones, they are trying to improve their ratings for another $1m. Our goverment needs to back LEO's and hammer down on crime, white or black. If not eventually it will lead to a much larger issue due to inaction.
Oh, the deads guy family damn sure cares about the color of skin the murderer has, or the uniform he wears. $$$
Infact I do not understand why guys like the kid in WI cannot sue his attackers, even though 2 of them dead. He should have never been jailed. His attorneys need to go after all them, The athorities, the thugs, etc. On top all that he suffered alot of mental stress, duress, etc.
 
lawndoctor said:
Nope. Philadelphia tries to pass local legislation limiting concealed carry every few years (typically when a new mayor comes in), and the state courts strike them down as unconstitutional. All it does is make headlines for the politicians and waste a lot of taxpayer dollars on useless litigation. Not only that, Pennsylvania is an open carry state. Paradoxically, in a "city of the first class" (meaning Philadelphia and Pittsburgh), state law requires a concealed carry permit in order to carry openly. But open carry is fine anywhere else in the state. As James Carville said, Pennsylvania has Philadelphia at one end, Pittsburgh at the other end, and everything in between is Alabama (no offense to anyone from Alabama).
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None taken.
And you’d be shocked how soft on crime Alabama is.
We typically have 3 times as many people on death row as we have actually executed in the last 50 years.
It’s pathetic.
 
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