Is it time to legalize drugs?

I'll bet Pat and his sidekick Ben used to burn one behind the curtain after each 700 Club show. I can just see them laughing their a$$ off. He could leg press 2,000# you know.:smt043
 
It seems likely that legalization would reduce the river of cash, that flows unchecked, into the coffers of Mexican gangs. Whom appear to be not only terrorizing, but perhaps, taking over the nation to our immediate south. Do we have our collective "head in the sand", regarding this? I haven't heard one peep about this in any of the "debates".

I think it should be a state "thing", to be decided by ballot, by the state residents. It is a bit of a mess now, seemingly, "in the closet" legal, in some states. It is legal, per prescription, in Washington state, but, anyone with a "head, or, tummy ache" can apparently get that prescription; slightly confusing.
 
Maybe, some doctors, and, some "legal" drug manufacturers, have too good a thing going on, and would lobby hard to keep marijuana in a "prohibition" state of being. Practically anyone could harvest a healthy crop of MJ, so I am told.
 
fasttoys7619 said:
Legalize it and tax the hell out of it !!!!!!!!!!
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"A 2008 study by Harvard economist Jeffrey A. Miron has estimated that legalizing drugs would inject $76.8 billion a year into the U.S. economy — $44.1 billion from law enforcement savings, and at least $32.7 billion in tax revenue ($6.7 billion from marijuana, $22.5 billion from cocaine and heroin, remainder from other drugs)."

This does not count the cost of incarceration.

MM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_on_Drugs#Costs_to_taxpayers
 
MonacoMike said:
Is the "prohibition" of "drugs" constitutional?

MM
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:huh:.....hummmmm, :huh:.... purely, I think not, but that's a chin scratch-er, Monaco......what's your answer????
 
I find it sad the illegal drugs are cheaper the prescription ones...WTF?
 
D-Sill-D said:
:huh:.....hummmmm, :huh:.... purely, I think not, but that's a chin scratch-er, Monaco......what's your answer????
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Well, rather than my answer let us look to our countries history. If all that was needed to make alcohol illegal was to pass a law, as they have done with drug prohibition, why did they bother with the Eighteenth Amendment? ...and why did they need the Twentyfirst Amendment to legalize it again if they believed they had the constitutional authority? The answer is because one hundred years ago they did not believe passing it as a law was constitutional.

MM
 
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Actually what Mr. Robertson said was....
""I just think it's shocking how many of these young people wind up in prison and they get turned into hardcore criminals because they had a possession of a very small amount of a controlled substance," Robertson said on his show March 1.

He is/was mistaken in his assessment of the criminal justice response to drug possession. "Very small amounts" of drugs do not normally land a person in prison. What typically lands a person in prison is possession of larger amounts of drugs intended for distribution or the burglaries, robberies, etc., that the offender committed to get the money to buy the very small amounts of drugs.

Perhaps Mr. R should check his facts before he opens his trap.
 
Yes to pot. As the aunt of one and cousin to one addicted (hard core sh$!) kids, no no no no to heroin and coke.

Although, from what I understand, the pot of today is laced with chemicals that make it addictive (much like tabacco). If the government legalizes it, you can bet your sweet arse that they'll make it as addictive, if not more, than cigarettes.
 
Well this is ironic. I'm so rattled by the realization that I agree with anything that Pat Robertson says, that I might need drugs!
 
KarenS said:
Yes to pot. As the aunt of one and cousin to one addicted (hard core sh$!) kids, no no no no to heroin and coke.

Although, from what I understand, the pot of today is laced with chemicals that make it addictive (much like tabacco). If the government legalizes it, you can bet your sweet arse that they'll make it as addictive, if not more, than cigarettes.
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Why??? Because it is illegal!

Why would anyone want meth??? Why would anyone want bath-tub gin??? Thousands died because of that.

Because what they wanted was illegal so they made do.

It just makes business sense to make the MJ stronger as to lighten shipping loads then cut it with God knows what to increase distribution quantity.
 
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Gofirstclass said:
Actually what Mr. Robertson said was....
""I just think it's shocking how many of these young people wind up in prison and they get turned into hardcore criminals because they had a possession of a very small amount of a controlled substance," Robertson said on his show March 1.

He is/was mistaken in his assessment of the criminal justice response to drug possession. "Very small amounts" of drugs do not normally land a person in prison. What typically lands a person in prison is possession of larger amounts of drugs intended for distribution or the burglaries, robberies, etc., that the offender committed to get the money to buy the very small amounts of drugs.

Perhaps Mr. R should check his facts before he opens his trap.
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He was making a larger point not talking specifics.

The war on drugs is a part of the relationship problen the authorities have with the public. The clearly UNCONSTITUTIONAL measures the SCOTUS has allowed to be used to maintain the "war" on drugs have hurt the average citizens freedom.

MonacoMike said:
The relationship between police and the public they serve is sadly deteriorating. When I was a young the authorities were respected, gave respect, served the public, and known visible members of the community. There are several factors in this breakdown I would like to highlight.

Over regulation and the me, me, me society: we try to regulate so much of life that people now pick and choose what they will and won't follow. We now have created an environment that, take many boaters, would rather not see the CG. Why, they might find a minor violation and penalize us, even though we all want them to save us if in danger. Our children see this reaction and others, such as watching for cops while speeding, and perpetuate this feeling. Many folks see police as part of big brother out to get them and sometimes they are right.


The failed war on drugs: we have lost more civil liberties to this than most realize. We cannot even keep drugs out of prisons, how are we going to keep a substance with up to a 1700% profit margin out of our country? This fight has hardened criminals, and law enforcement, many cops feel you are guilty until you prove you are innocent.

The police as a revenue source: in many jurisdictions if it doesn't pay there is little enforcement, but if it pays look out. This creates an adversarial relationship with the very community police are to serve. Rarely do I see community work in progress, police used to direct traffic when the signals failed, no more. When I called to ask why: the bottom line, it doesn't pay.

Unionization and fraternal membership, and behavior: police used to be known by the community they served, now they ride in souped-up menacing looking Chargers and the like. Most I've met don't want to live where they work and are highly distrustful of all but family and others in law enforcement. Because the public is now afraid the officers they patronize them giving them a big ego trip, but doing nothing to foster good relations.

We are black and white on issues, no gray: we have removed discretion from many situations that allow for good community policing. Sometimes people need a break, but we've got dash cams in place of judgment.

There will be some on both sides that will not fit this pattern, but whenever you see a law enforcement officer do you slow down, start to worry about minor details that they could play gotcha with? Generally law abiding citizens shouldn't need to feel this way.
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Man made alcohol - God made grass........who can you trust. :grin: Legalize it, tax it.....done!!!!
 
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