Gloss Black Bottom Paint

[H2ONUT]

Is there such a product? Now that I am trailering the boat Is like to find a bottom paint that has gloss to it.


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[katricol]

never seen one of any color

 

[JimT]

Check out Petit Vivid. It's as close to gloss as you will get in a bottom paint and its great for trailered boats.

 

[ks65609]

Is there such a product? Now that I am trailering the boat Is like to find a bottom paint that has gloss to it.


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I have used Interlux VC 17 for years and other than a bi-annual application it is maintenance free. I would not describe it as glossy, but is black and very durable. Very popular with the sailing community as it creates minimal friction with water. When first applied it is copper in colouration and will turn black when exposed to water.

 

[Lazy Daze]

Check out Petit Vivid. It's as close to gloss as you will get in a bottom paint and its great for trailered boats.

Supposedly you can buff the stuff to make it shinier. I've never tried it so I don't know how "shiny" shinier really is.

 

[H2ONUT]

Thanks guys, I did see the Vivid. I might give that a try.


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[BigBoysToys]

I've used vivid before. It's darker for sure but not gloss by any means.


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[CliffA]

Is there such a product? Now that I am trailering the boat Is like to find a bottom paint that has gloss to it.


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if you are trailering the boat why even use an ablative bottom paint?.......if you want a shiny bottom you cold just have the bottom painted with a shiny epoxy paint....

cliff

 

[SloBurn]

if you are trailering the boat why even use an ablative bottom paint?.......if you want a shiny bottom you cold just have the bottom painted with a shiny epoxy paint....

cliff

+1, you're just adding weight and increasing drag. I would stay with a smooth gel coat bottom for max efficiency.

 

[JimT]

+1, you're just adding weight and increasing drag. I would stay with a smooth gel coat bottom for max efficiency.

The OP is in salt water and likely has bottom paint already.

Vivid is a modified epoxy that contains a biocide. It's not ablative. It goes on with a hard, smooth surface. I put it on my 280DA over the original ablative paint and picked up 4 mph. When it comes time to paint the bottom of my 330DA (soon) I will go with Vivid again. I would not use it if I was in salt water full time but its a great paint for a freshwater boat that is already painted.

 

[CliffA]

The OP is in salt water and likely has bottom paint already.

Vivid is a modified epoxy that contains a biocide. It's not ablative. It goes on with a hard, smooth surface. I put it on my 280DA over the original ablative paint and picked up 4 mph. When it comes time to paint the bottom of my 330DA (soon) I will go with Vivid again. I would not use it if I was in salt water full time but its a great paint for a freshwater boat that is already painted.

good info Jim....thanks....I am going to need bottom paint this year.....this Vivid epoxy paint sounds interesting....have you found anyone at our lake that will paint the bottom using this?....'All Seasons Marina' will only use ablative paint so I have been told....

cliff

 

[JimT]

good info Jim....thanks....I am going to need bottom paint this year.....this Vivid epoxy paint sounds interesting....have you found anyone at our lake that will paint the bottom using this?....'All Seasons Marina' will only use ablative paint so I have been told....

cliff

Cliff,

I had the Vivid put on my 280DA at Westport Marina. They could pull that boat out with their fork lifts. They can't lift the 330DA. I was figuring to go to All Seasons for bottom paint on the 330DA. They did a touch up for me 2 years ago using ablative. I had not heard that ablative was all they would use. They are the only game in town and always busy so I could see Tim only doing one process. I can get another season out of my paint so I guess I will see about the Vivid next winter.

Jim

 

[H2ONUT]

Bottom has bottom paint that is really thin and wearing off. This is a new to me boat. For now it will be in a slip in brackish water. When I move to SC at some point this year it will be a trailer boat. Just looking for something that will look good on the trailer. Thanks for all the input gang!


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[BigBoysToys]

JimT, I believe you are mistaken about the ablative properties. Vivid is classified as an ablative although it is harder and therefore ablates slower. Check out their webpage.


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[Lazy Daze]

When I move to SC at some point this year it will be a trailer boat. Just looking for something that will look good on the trailer.

So here's another thought... Sand what you can so it's relatively smooth. Primarily just what you would easily see while the boat is on the trailer. Don't worry about parts of the hull that you really don't see. Then get a couple rattle cans of whatever color you want and spray paint it! And, no, I'm not being sarcastic... if the main purpose is aesthetics, why not? A little bit of time sanding, a couple bucks worth of paint and you're good. How long will it last? Long enough. And it's a super easy/quick job to do touch-ups as needed. It won't look "perfect", but it'll look pretty good. Heck, you don't even have to sand it if you don't want to - you'll just see the uneven spots from the antifouling paint underneath. But that depends on how bad it is and how good you really want it to look. If you just want it to look better than it is, then just spray it the way it is.

Another, much more labor intensive job though, is to strip/sand the existing paint off. Then either sand/compound the hull to bring the shine back (depending on the underlying condition of the hull), or paint it. If you're painting, you go anywhere from inexpensive to top of the line. You can try to match the existing gel, use black, or even a contrasting color and it can look quite good. Some boat manufacturers even offer a "hull bottom" gel color different than the hull sides.

For sanding... check into "soda blasting" in your area if you want to hire this part out. Even if you decide on putting anti-fouling back on there, you might still consider soda blasting as it will give you a nice surface to apply the new paint to.

 

[H2ONUT]

I'm really leaning towards the Vivid. I did think about rolling on RustOleum Gloss Black, but didn't want to mention that on here... LOL


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[Lazy Daze]

I'm really leaning towards the Vivid. I did think about rolling on RustOleum Gloss Black, but didn't want to mention that on here... LOL


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Hey, it may not be the solution that "most" would do, but it doesn't mean it's a bad solution, you know? :smt001

My 260DA was never in the water for more than about 2 weeks at a time. As the years went by, the bottom paint was wearing away as one would expect. I didn't see the need to go and do an entire bottom job just to have to keep redoing it for no real "functional" reason. I ended up just doing "touch-ups" where I would easily see it when it's on the trailer. Sometimes with leftover bottom paint from the store... sometimes, in a pinch, with a rattle can.

In the end, we each do what is best for us. I only mentioned the spray paint thing as another option, in case you hadn't thought about it... which apparently you already did! :lol:

 

[JimT]

JimT, I believe you are mistaken about the ablative properties. Vivid is classified as an ablative although it is harder and therefore ablates slower. Check out their webpage.


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On the Pettit website Vivid shows up on both the ablative and hard antifouling lists. My experience is that it doesn't ablate. When we tried to burnish it to get the advertised high performance racing finish the paint was so hard we couldn't get it off even with a medium grit paper.

 

[BigBoysToys]

Interesting to hear. I found that it did ablate on my hull but not quite as quickly as some of the other ablatives on the market. I had very good results with it. If it matters, I dock in brackish water and boat (about 250 hours a summer) in full saltwater and brackish water.


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