Drugged Children

My youngest daughter has been diagnosed with everything that happened to be popular at that time. ADHD, Bi Polar, Aspergers, you name it. I actually threatened a doctor that was giving her handfuls of medication at one point (told her that I would sue her ass if she didn't get her off the drugs that were killing her basically). Most doctors are legalized drug dealers...point blank.
 
If you read my post discussing the 6 year old boy, you know my opinion on this issue.

The article you cite is long but relatively thorough. Just follow the money trail and it explains the crassness that is jeopardizing our future generations. It's amazing how this whole problem seems to be focused in the US. Big surprise that they now want to market it to adults. It's a huge untapped market. The article states that 10% of adults might have ADD.... Wow, wouldn't you like to have a market, pushed by doctors, that was that size?

These pharmaceutical companies don't care that they are creating zombie / lemmings....

Of course you are not going to be as sharp as if you were on these drugs. These drugs are very similar to what the military gives their fighter pilots before a mission. But, it's not a normal state of mind.

Ken, you've seen first hand how doctors are pushing these drugs on children. I'm glad you were proactive.
 
My younger sister was problems, a naughty, temper throwing, hyper brat when little. Some of the neighbors dreaded a visit if she was along. Little by little she changed and ended up doing well in school, is quite smart. She definitely has a way about her, but at least she had a chance to grow into herself. She has worked hard and has success working at a level that is primarily a mans world or 'the boys club' as she likes to call it. In more recent times there's no doubt she would have been drugged. I often wonder how different her life might have been.
 
Boat Guy said:
These drugs are very similar to what the military gives their fighter pilots before a mission. But, it's not a normal state of mind.
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Is this before or after they go flying in the cool black helicopters?

Carter, if you see this - you got out too soon! See what you are missing?
 
Back in the 70's, the only time they gave us "uppers" was prior to 14 hour trans-oceanic ferry flights. That was in a single seater with no autopilot and about 6 planned inflight refuelings...I guess they wanted us awake for landing!
 
I believe children's diet may cause some problems. Sugar is added to practically everything we eat just to make it taste and sell better. Pharmaceutical companies are now so influencial they control the medical profession!! Doctors are encouraged and monitored as to the prescriptions they write. They are rewarded with unbelievable perks if they "play the game." Who does the major advertising on the evening TV news time slot? Pharmaceutical companies!!! We live in a society where "there is a pill for that" is pounded down our throats until some begin to believe it. Marketing has now overcome common sense.
 
How about a little parental discipline when needed, and even children doing chores to learn self-discipline. A few parents teaching ethics and moral values would not hurt as well.
 
Instead of writing something long, I'll direct you to this article I found doing a quick google search. There's a lot of information out there if you want to read it.

The article ref. "go pills" for military aviators.

In any event, I stand by my previous statement that we are legally drugging our younger generation because we've allowed pharmaceutical companies to go uncontrolled and we just don't take the time to let them be kids...Basically it's just easier to put them on compliance drugs.

http://www.hightimes.com/read/adderall-americas-favorite-amphetamine

What I really want to know is, what happens to these kids if because of some catastrophe, or just to control them, they can't get their daily dose?
 
What happens when they don't get their dose as well as what happens when they do. There are some bad side effect to some of these behavioral drugs. In a lot of the headline shooter stories it's common to find they've been 'treated' although I've yet to see a serious attempt to identify a connection. Would be quite costly if a connection were made wouldn't it.
 
While I agree that we have an "overdrugged" society and seem to try to apply a pill to every problem.... The pharma companies followers not leaders.
 
My wife had 7 back surgery’s and is now inoperable. She is on pain management drugs for the rest of her life.
She was going to a well known university hospital that turned her into a walking zombie. She had a pain pump that constantly infused morphine into her spine, Oxycodone, Celebrex, and a handful of other drugs to take every day. The hospital kept pushing the drugs while the interns were “monitoring” her condition.

She could not get off the drugs due to the addiction she had.

After 6 years of sleeping through every major family event including my daughters graduation and a weight gain to 300lbs, we found a doctor that base lined her and only gave her what she needed for withdraw pain. She is now off ¾ of the meds and is down to 145lbs.

She still has pain but it’s manageable and she can now stay awake long enough to exercise and be with the family without going to sleep.

BTW my insurer was picking up a 700usd drug bill every month. My copay was 300usd!!! Legal addition sucks!!
 
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I commend her for fighting back.

I don't know if this is the proper venue to be airing all my thoughts. I'm a real advocate for being drug free or at least the minimal amount necessary.

[h=5]One person dies every 19 minutes from prescription drug abuse in the United States (CDC)[/h]
 
carterchapman said:
Back in the 70's, the only time they gave us "uppers" was prior to 14 hour trans-oceanic ferry flights. That was in a single seater with no autopilot and about 6 planned inflight refuelings...I guess they wanted us awake for landing!
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That's the problem with flying, getting it right 99% of the time ain't that good:smt043
 
keokie said:
While I agree that we have an "overdrugged" society and seem to try to apply a pill to every problem.... The pharma companies followers not leaders.
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how could pharma not be leaders? according to the article they created the market! Doing what you perceive as the right thing might be another story.

I know numerous kids that have benefited from the ADD medications. Now should every kid receive the medications? maybe not but the decision is still up to family and doctor not the pharma companies. There is another problem here. ADD used to get your kid classified as special needs and they would get extra time to complete assignments/tests and special privileges when taking the ACT or SAT test. That wasn't Pharma getting the child classified, that was the parent!!

When you get a nasty infection, or need something to keep your heart going you might want those pharma companies around!
 
The issue is that someone needs to prescribe the meds. Doctors are becoming pushers. My wife’s pain management doctor will only give her enough to knock the pain down not knock her out. My wife sees her doctor every other month and only gets enough until the next visit. She must see the doctor and have blood work before he renews her script.

He stays in business because he practices good drug monitoring at his clinic. Pain management doctors have been getting busted for pushing the meds without cause. Many have been shut down and rightly so.

I agree that the family, parent, and doctor must decide. My point is that if the doc doesn’t prescribe it, it can’t be taken.

I know many on this site live with pain every day and need meds to function. In spite of that pain they are a functioning part of society and want more out of life than self- pity.
 
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Do be fooled by the GSK article. Smoke and mirrors. reps are being compensated by the number or scripts they generate, just not in the traditional way. A company cannot and will not keep the sales reps who are not generating scripts.

Pulling payments away from prescribers may backfire. They need to be compensated for their time. How are you supposed to get feedback from the prescribers? Their feedback is important to improving products and access to their products.
 
Both my kids are in College and claim they have a hard time studying, paying attention, etc.. Their friends are on Adderrall. Helps them to concentrate, etc. And they do get very good grades yessireee.. When my kids keep asking for the same I tell them.. just study a lil harder and do the best you can.. I'm ok with B's and C's....... For what its worth - they are doing very well.....without..
 
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