Charts

[billnpat]

Where can we find South Shore L.I. N.Y. charts COPAIGUE to W ISLIP? @ SHINNECOCK INLET? @ E. ROCKAWAY INLET ??

 

[Rocket]

Best to go to West Marine and purchase the water proof charts for the south shore of Long Island. Even with GPS i alway have them out for referance and study them.

 

[billnpat]

Best to go to West Marine and purchase the water proof charts for the south shore of Long Island. Even with GPS i alway have them out for referance and study them.

Thanks....Is there a number or some I'D number for those particular charts???.....or just south shore L I ?.

 

[Henry Boyd]

You can download charts from NOAA for free. NOAA also provides free viewing software. There are two file formats one is basically a 'picture' of the paper chart, the other is a data format, like a CAD file. You can also buy a third party navigation software that will use the files from NOAA and create routes and waypoints on a computer that can be transferred to your chart plotter.

Here is the link to the NOAA site:

http://www.nauticalcharts.noaa.gov/

You still want to have hardcopies of where you boat, but by having the electronic format you can have all of the charts for the east coast and then review the ones you want to buy in hardcopy.

I also create one time routes on my computer and just print them out on an inkjet to use as a reference while we are traveling.

USE CAUTION if you print out the electronic charts as there is a risk of mis-scaling the chart so that 1" would not equal the correct distance.

Henry

 

[Henry Boyd]

Bill,
I forgot to mention you should also download a copy of the Coast Pilot from NOAA (also free) for your boating area as well. This will have handing information about harbors and navigational dangers like rocks and ledges.The book is quite large, so you may want to only print out one or two chapters depending on where you boat to keep in your chart folder.

From the Coast Guard you should also download the latest coy of Notice to Mariners.
This will contain significant data such as missing navigational aids, newly added aids etc., and information about harbors and ports. Charts are not updated every year, so the NTM will keep you up to date with any chart changes since the last printing
Henry

 

[Lazy Daze]

Excellent post, Henry. I'm going to look in to what you were saying for myself, as well.

Bill, Pat: Just offering this as another idea... Maptech makes waterproof charts - there in a map-style, flip/fold format. I have a few of these myself, for areas that I don't really need the whole book or ChartKit.

You can buy them online - if you're having trouble, I sell them as well. I sell them for $20 - figure $5 or less to ship it to you. I don't charge any "handling" fee - just actual shipping. I don't stock all of them, but I can get them within a few days.

OK, that's enough "selling" for me today! :grin:

Check it out: http://www.maptech.com/water/waterproofcharts/index.cfm?infopg=buy&area=Cape Cod to New York Harbor

 

[billnpat]

You can download charts from NOAA for free. NOAA also provides free viewing software. There are two file formats one is basically a 'picture' of the paper chart, the other is a data format, like a CAD file. You can also buy a third party navigation software that will use the files from NOAA and create routes and waypoints on a computer that can be transferred to your chart plotter.

Here is the link to the NOAA site:

http://www.nauticalcharts.noaa.gov/

You still want to have hardcopies of where you boat, but by having the electronic format you can have all of the charts for the east coast and then review the ones you want to buy in hardcopy.

I also create one time routes on my computer and just print them out on an inkjet to use as a reference while we are traveling.

USE CAUTION if you print out the electronic charts as there is a risk of mis-scaling the chart so that 1" would not equal the correct distance.

Henry

Thanks Henry we downloaded 2 charts already FREE :thumbsup:

 

[billnpat]

Excellent post, Henry. I'm going to look in to what you were saying for myself, as well.

Bill, Pat: Just offering this as another idea... Maptech makes waterproof charts - there in a map-style, flip/fold format. I have a few of these myself, for areas that I don't really need the whole book or ChartKit.

You can buy them online - if you're having trouble, I sell them as well. I sell them for $20 - figure $5 or less to ship it to you. I don't charge any "handling" fee - just actual shipping. I don't stock all of them, but I can get them within a few days.

OK, that's enough "selling" for me today! :grin:

Check it out: http://www.maptech.com/water/waterproofcharts/index.cfm?infopg=buy&area=Cape Cod to New York Harbor

Thanks Dennis,

We got the COPAIGUE to W ISLIP? @ SHINNECOCK INLET? @ E. ROCKAWAY INLET ?? charts ordered today....

We plan to stay close to the coast and not very far away till we learn the south shore waterways a little more. the first year of boating anyway. i figured since we're in Lindenhurst N.Y those charts i ordered would be good for a start. i do plan on a Statue of Liberty trip in sept 2010 but not sure as to what chart i.d need leaving from lindenhurst NY :huh:

Any help with that would br greatly appreciated :thumbsup:

 

[Lazy Daze]

With the Maptech line, you may want to consider the "Waterproof Chartbook" as it contains many charts, all in a spiral-bound book. The larger, "Chartkit Book" is nice, too - if you have the room to lay that out.

Their coverage areas aren't the best online, but try pulling up a Google map of the area to compare. Do it side-by-side.

 

[billnpat]

With the Maptech line, you may want to consider the "Waterproof Chartbook" as it contains many charts, all in a spiral-bound book. The larger, "Chartkit Book" is nice, too - if you have the room to lay that out.

Their coverage areas aren't the best online, but try pulling up a Google map of the area to compare. Do it side-by-side.

Water proof chart books for the North East.....BELOW

Not sure which one id really use :huh:



210: Penobscot Bay to Mount Desert Island, Ed...
WPB0210
$49.95
220: Casco Bay to Camden, Ed. 1
WPB0220
$49.95
230: Cape Ann, Mass. to Portland, Maine, Ed. ...
WPB0230
$49.95
240: Cape Cod to Cape Ann, Mass., Ed. 2
WPB0240
$49.95
325: Long Island Sound, Ed. 3
WPB0325
$49.95
340: South Shore Long Island, Ed. 2
WPB0340
$49.95
350: Hudson River and New York Harbor, Ed. 2
WPB0350
$49.95
360: New Jersey Coast, Ed. 2
WPB0360
$49.95

 

[bmac]

South Shore Long Island will get you started, Bill. If you're going the Statue of Liberty you should have the Hudson River and New York Harbor one as well. NY Harbor is no place to navigate without some significant planning and a very good understaning of the Rules of the Road.

 

[Lazy Daze]

If you're still stuck... PM me tomorrow morning (to remind me) and I'll look in some of the charts/books we have at the store. The actual books might have a better coverage map. I've got a few appointments and some new boat pick-ups, but I will try to check it out.

 

[billnpat]

South Shore Long Island will get you started, Bill. If you're going the Statue of Liberty you should have the Hudson River and New York Harbor one as well. NY Harbor is no place to navigate without some significant planning and a very good understaning of the Rules of the Road.

Good tip

Thanks Brian :smt001

A flotilla from lindenhurst area to Miss Liberty would be a dream.....:grin:

 

[billnpat]

If you're still stuck... PM me tomorrow morning (to remind me) and I'll look in some of the charts/books we have at the store. The actual books might have a better coverage map. I've got a few appointments and some new boat pick-ups, but I will try to check it out.

OK, Thanks Dennis...:thumbsup:

 

[Henry Boyd]

Bill,

Use the interactive chart retrieval tool on the NOAA site to select all the charts for your area for downloading. It is based on a map of the USA with the area each chart covers shown as an outline. Then just click on the outline to order the chart. That will build a list of chart numbers. The same chart numbers are used for the electronic versions as for the paper versions. So you can then take the list of chart numbers from the download tool and order them in hard copy.

Henry

 

[Lazy Daze]

Oh, another thing for the Maptech stuff. Click on that link (for example) I gave in post #6. Then click on "title descriptions" and use that along with a google map for reference. That might help a little more.

 

[billnpat]

Bill,

Use the interactive chart retrieval tool on the NOAA site to select all the charts for your area for downloading. It is based on a map of the USA with the area each chart covers shown as an outline. Then just click on the outline to order the chart. That will build a list of chart numbers. The same chart numbers are used for the electronic versions as for the paper versions. So you can then take the list of chart numbers from the download tool and order them in hard copy.

Henry

OK Thanks Henry...... I will try that :smt001

 

[billnpat]

South Shore Long Island will get you started, Bill. If you're going the Statue of Liberty you should have the Hudson River and New York Harbor one as well. NY Harbor is no place to navigate without some significant planning and a very good understaning of the Rules of the Road.[/QUOTE

I read this....

The approach to New York Harbor from seaward is generally along the south coast of Long Island or the east coast of New Jersey, although the harbor is easily approached from any direction between east and south. During the approach, the south shore of Long Island will be seen to northward and the low sandy beaches of the New Jersey shore will be observed to westward. The Long Island shore is readily identified by sand hillocks and densely populated beach communities, whereas the New Jersey shore is characterized by long sandy stretches and many summer resort settlements.
The important currents affecting navigation in the approach to New York Harbor are those due to winds. The largest velocity likely to occur under storm conditions is about 1.5 knots. A sudden reversal in the direction of the wind produces a corresponding change in the current, either diminishing or augmenting the velocity. Sustained winds do not maintain the currents at the maximum velocities. The velocity is about 0.2 knots near the Ambrose Channel entrance. The largest velocity likely to occur is 2 knots.
Summer winds are often out of the south and southwest with a 10 to 12 knot afternoon peak. Fog in the harbor area is more closely related to land type fogs. In winter it is common on clear, calm mornings and more frequent than in the approaches. Southerlies can also bring winter fogs of the advection type. During the spring and early summer the harbor as well as its approaches are susceptible to advection fog, riding in on east through south winds. A morning peak still exists in the harbor, while the approaches exhibit an afternoon maximum.

I DONT THINK ILL GO THIS YEAR AFTER ALL....:smt089

MAYBE NEXT YEAR....IM A LITTLE NERVOUS FIRST TIME BOATER :grin:

 

[Rocket]

No Worries on NY Harbor - i work there and that is the last place i want to see when i have my down time!!!

 

[billnpat]

No Worries on NY Harbor - i work there and that is the last place i want to see when i have my down time!!!

HA HA HA :smt038 Don't blame you :grin: