Carrying over a Name..

boltman

boltman

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So what do you do when you want to carry over a boats name, I don't want to rename the new boat, when we get it, because the wife named the current boat so well, and I can't think of a better name for the new boat.... Just wondering what do you do??
 
boltman said:
So what do you do when you want to carry over a boats name, I don't want to rename the new boat, when we get it, because the wife named the current boat so well, and I can't think of a better name for the new boat.... Just wondering what do you do??
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Are you asking from a USCG Documentation standpoint?
 
Remove the name from the old boat before you transfer ownership, then document the new boat with the old name. Leave the USCG Doc Number in its permanent location on the old boat. It is up to the new owner or dealer that ends up with the old boat to handle his own documentation.
 
Pretty easy process. Just went through it.

On the CG-1258 form under "A. Vessel Name" you put the new name that you want followed by the old name in parenthesis behind it.

Good luck with the new boat!
 
fwebster said:
Remove the name from the old boat before you transfer ownership, then document the new boat with the old name. Leave the USCG Doc Number in its permanent location on the old boat. It is up to the new owner or dealer that ends up with the old boat to handle his own documentation.
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Frank,

Shelli and I physically removed the boat name from the 340 Monday. Thanks for the advice.
 
I checked this out when I bought my current boat. There is no regulation that says the boat name has to be unique. There are many boats documented with the same name.

I asumed the new owner of my boat would rename it and he didn't. I was going through Boston Harbor and saw a boat as I passed by I saw it still had the name I gave it.
 
I learned about this the hard way.......we had an '88 390EC previously. The sign painter who initially did the name, cut his stencil into the gelcoat on the transom with an exacto-knife. When it faded, I had a local yacht services company replace the painted name with gold leaf. They covered the knife cuts perfectly. When we sold the boat, it went to a town about 35 miles away. I didn't have the heart to make a mess and problem for the buyer by removing the name, not to mention throwing away $800 worth of gold.

Skip ahead to the new boat........we used the same name. Then a year or so later, we went over to the area where the old boat resides for lunch with several other boats. I kept hearing someone haiing our boat. It was a confusing afternoon trying to figure out which one of us had the radio call.

My view is that you own your name and you should remove it if you sell of trade your boat. The new owner will most likely choose a name with meaning to him rather then use your old name. If he isn't going to document, it doesn't matter, if he is going to document, he's got to go thru the steps anyway no matter what name is on the boat.
 
Sirens' Song

and, the common question in Florida is "Are you a retired cop?" No......It is what I get for having 2 English/Liberal Arts majors in the family and relates to the Sirens in Greek Mythology.
 
I agree in principal that you should be able to remove a name from a boat that you are selling or have sold. HOwever, I wonder if you can legally remove a name from a boat that is currently USCG documented without first either un-documenting the boat or officially changing the documentation with the USCG to a new name.
 
I'm not sure just that the simple act of selling a boat invalidates it's USCG documentation.

When I sold my 1998 330DA on my own, the buyer didn't want to document the vessel. I undocumented it prior to the sale.

When I traded in my 380DA for my 410DA, I made it a stipulation of the deal that MM would change the name and the documentation to a new owner. I didn't want the new owner keeping my name.

You can go to this page and click on the link for deletion from documentation to undocument before you trade or sell.
 
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The current document holder/owner must fill out a surrender of documentation, and submit it to the coast guard. When the coast guard processes and cancels the current document, the new owner can apply for documentation under the vessels new name and hailing port. A word of caution..... If there are any liens from lending institutions, marinas, storage facilitys, mechanics or court ordered liens, these will be recorded with the coast guard and become your responsibilty. The lein follows the documented vessel, not the owner. I would have a marine documentation specialist handle the transaction before you close on the deal. They will be able to tell you the vessels history from build date and factory and the vessels owner history. Basically a title search for a peice of property. Happened to me.... There was a lien of $35000.00 on the boat I bought. It was paid off, but the lending institution had never notified the coast guard of a paid loan. Can be a real problem when you go to sell it five to ten years down the road. You will have to track down lien holders,previous owners, provide proof of payment, and pay for all legal fees if needed. And what if the PO is dead? My 2 cents
 
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The other thing to think about is your MMSI number if you have one, a lot of people do now. In Canada the boat numbers and the name of the boat are registered to the radio. They also have a lot of information about us on file, our names, cell numbers, who to call in an emergency, home address and boat description all tied to that emergency number. They can also track you off that number, taking the name off the boat and not removing the information on file with the CG could be a problem.

When we bought the Sea Ray, we wanted to call it Be Happy same name as our last boat but because we were keeping both cruisers for a few years we decides the Sea Ray would be Be Happy 2. That way we would not have a problem with the name and the MMSI number.

Ken
 
Ken, I have never heard of that. What do the letters stand for?
 
fwebster said:
Sirens' Song

and, the common question in Florida is "Are you a retired cop?" No......It is what I get for having 2 English/Liberal Arts majors in the family and relates to the Sirens in Greek Mythology.
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The Greek mythology I got right away. The cop thing is weird. Ignorance runs rampant.
 
88dancer300 said:
Ken, I have never heard of that. What do the letters stand for?
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maritime_Mobile_Service_Identity

A few years ago the MMSI system came out on radios, you have a red destress button on the radio that once pushed will send your location to the CG and other boats in the general area. Great way in a panic situation for anyone that can push a button to get help. I can only change the number twice on my boat after that you have to send the radio back to the manufacture to be reprogramed.

I should add that you must also have the radio connected to the GPS, that's easy only one wire. You can also send your position to your friends.

Ken
 
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