can i get pics of owners shower sump area

[Ethan's Tank]

I still have this leak in my mid-cabin. Drain pan in Ac unit is dry, no sign of overflow on the drain pan. I've changed out the broken pump in my sump box, so I do not get overflow in the sump area of the backup pump, but that backup pump went off again and the lower sump area is pooled with water again. I have the 2 pipes coming out and hanging over that sump area concerns me. I'm not sure whether is a drainage pipe or a vent pipe of some sort. It does not lead to the bildge area of my engine room. I've verified that by wet vac that bilge channel and there are no holes in it asides from the drainage plug.

I really need to find out why my floors are wet despite I've been running air handlers on them 24/7. And where those 2 pipes lead to/from

 

[ZZ13]

Have you eliminated a rainwater leak that's just pooling in that spot? Have you eliminated a freshwater plumbing leak at a fitting/connection that is just pooling in that spot? Have you eliminated an a/c seawater line leak that is just pooling in that spot?

 

[Ethan's Tank]

My wife got here yesterday and verified everything was dry, including the hardwood which turned dark due to soaking up the water, the hardwood lightening up to its normal color and carpet was dry. She ran the shower and verified the primary pump s750 was turning on and kicking warm soap water out of boat on the side. She mentioned the backup pump kicked on, but the sump box never overfilled. There was a pool of water where the 2nd pump is installed.
She did fill up the water tank since it was low.
On the schematics, it looks like the water tank is under the aft cabin seat, not sure how hard to get out.

 

[Ethan's Tank]

Have you eliminated a rainwater leak that's just pooling in that spot? Have you eliminated a freshwater plumbing leak at a fitting/connection that is just pooling in that spot? Have you eliminated an a/c seawater line leak that is just pooling in that spot?

Where would I look to see these fittings? Would I need to tear down seats and walls to get to them?

I did pull the board on the portside in the aft cabin to view the ac unit and the board it was mounted to, was dry as bone....maybe I'm not looking in the rightspot

 

[ZZ13]

There are different ways to plumb a boat. My boat has a main water trunk with "t" fittings branching it to the sinks, showers and toilets. Your boat may have the water manifold system which has direct lines from the manifold in the engine room to each use location. I'm that case you only have a fitting at the manifold and a fitting at the other end of the line at the usage point (such as a galley faucet).

I had a similar problem and found my shower sump box itself was leaking. There were previously used screw holes in it (from before the pump was replaced). I had to plug those holes with epoxy. It was easy to see. I filled up the sump box and then watched water trickle out from under the box.

 

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[Woody]

I'm guessing here...that your shower sump is at a lower level than the floor that is getting wet. If so the water is coming from some where above that level. Take a look at the fresh water tank, while it may not be leaking perhaps a hose or fitting going to or from it is. Have you done any repairs, added anything, that maybe unkowingly a long screw may have pierced something it shouldn't have?

 

[Jaay757]

try this:
place your hand under the discharge hose when the pump is running discharging water just on the outside of the shower sump box. check for a small leak or dripping water. I have seen where the ribbed hoses don't always clamp down tight to the smooth male fitting from the shower box. This would allow the water to run down to where the back up pump is filling that area of the bilge.

 

[sb in gp]

I'm not sure if your saying the floor in the cabin is wet, or that below deck the bilge in the mid cabin is collecting water and the high water bilge pump is running. If the latter, then check to see if the fresh water pump itself might be leaking. Just fixed that on mine. Water was leaking through the motor housing. Had to replace the shurflo pump.


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[firecadet613]

I haven't followed through all this, but on your A/C pan, the fitting the drain line attaches to...is it dripping/leaking there? I had that issue and it will leak quite a bit of water...even though some will make it to the shower sump!

 

[Ethan's Tank]

Thanks for the pic, can't see further down towards the backup pump, but do you have 2 pipes down towards the stern of bilge?

 

[Ethan's Tank]

I'm guessing here...that your shower sump is at a lower level than the floor that is getting wet. If so the water is coming from some where above that level. Take a look at the fresh water tank, while it may not be leaking perhaps a hose or fitting going to or from it is. Have you done any repairs, added anything, that maybe unkowingly a long screw may have pierced something it shouldn't have?

Not exactly sure where the fresh water tank and water pump is my boat. I am assuming it's under the aft cabin bench

 

[Ethan's Tank]

try this:
place your hand under the discharge hose when the pump is running discharging water just on the outside of the shower sump box. check for a small leak or dripping water. I have seen where the ribbed hoses don't always clamp down tight to the smooth male fitting from the shower box. This would allow the water to run down to where the back up pump is filling that area of the bilge.

I'll have to double check next time I'm at the boat. I shop vac and dry that area out, turned off ac and powered on floor fans for the rest of the week

 

[wjglampe]

The fresh water pump sits on top of your water heater in the engine compartment. The fresh water tank is under the cushions a under a panel in the rear sleeping quarters. (mid cabin) If you had a fresh water leak, even a hole in your tank, I would think your pump would run continuously trying to build pressure.

 

[Ethan's Tank]

The fresh water pump sits on top of your water heater in the engine compartment. The fresh water tank is under the cushions a under a panel in the rear sleeping quarters. (mid cabin) If you had a fresh water leak, even a hole in your tank, I would think your pump would run continuously trying to build pressure.

Is there an access panel to it? I took out the cushions the first time and it seemed searay built that cabin around the water tank

 

[wjglampe]

I believe you have to unscrew wooden panels to get at it....

 

[skolbe]

The pipes take water eventually to the engine/bilge area most likely.

 

[MeEscape]

On my 300, I had water in the sump area and also under the port bench in the mid-cabin. I checked all the similar items that have been suggested on this thread. The water was the result of none of those items.

The 300 shower is a separate compartment placed inside the hull. If I leave the port window open during a rain (or wash) water will run down between the outside shower wall and the inside of the hull. This water then finds its way all over the place. I tested this on more than one occasion, as I am dumb enough to still leave the window open.

 

[Woody]

How did this turn out? Where was the water coming from?

 

[Ethan's Tank]

still leaks, can't figure out what it is, I leave the boat for a week and with no rain, I still get water in that bottom bilge area. The carpet area is dry, by the time I am doing doing my weekend on the boat with minimal AC use, the carpet on the bench is slightly wet. So it most likely is the AC but the drain hose can't be stopped up, as some members have suggested, cause I see some water from the condensation hose dump into sump box and the pain underneath the AC unit is dry. There must be some other hose from the AC that is leaking that I cannot see.