Bravo 3 replacement

Discussion in 'Gas Engines/Drives/Transmissions/Props' started by Curtis, Jan 23, 2018.

  1. Curtis

    Curtis Member

    54
    Feb 6, 2013
    San Antonio, Texas
    320 Sundancer 2004
    Previous 280 Sundancer
    Twin 8.1 (496 Mags) w Bravo III drives
    I am looking for recommendations for a source for a remanufactured Bravo 3 for my 320. Has anybody used All American Drive Service? They seem to be cheaper and have double the warranty.
     
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  2. Henry Boyd

    Henry Boyd Well-Known Member PLATINUM Sponsor

    Apr 24, 2007
    Newburyport, on the peaceful and serene Merrimack
    02' 280 DA
    496 w BIII
    Did you check for a reman from Merc?

    There is no easy way around this, the BIII is an expensive piece of machinery with no cheap replacement solutions. I have the same powerplant and drive and can attest that it is definitely under a lot of stress. We have done a lot of work to ours over the years. It is in fact the king of the money pit.

    Personally, if faced with the same problem I'd just have the yard order a new one.

    Henry
     
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  3. Royal Lichter

    Royal Lichter Member

    63
    Jan 22, 2018
    2005 Sea Ray Sundancer 260
    Single MerCruiser Mag 350 MPI w/ Bravo III
    I am currently faced with the same situation. If you are going to make the plunge, you should probably just purchase a brand new unit. It's expensive, but you're getting a brand new unit in perfect shape. A lot of the shops do not know how to work on them and it is a highly specialized piece of machinery.

    If you do get a reman one, get an 04+ because of the additional anodes.

    But I am curious why you are replacing? If it shifts good, why not just pressure test, and have the case re-sealed and painted?

    I am replacing because my case is pitted and it will be impossible to get the carrier bearing out or back in... so I have no choice. Take it slow and make sure you really need to replace your drive... and if you do, you may want to consider new.
     
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  4. Happy Dayz

    Happy Dayz Active Member

    188
    Jun 26, 2017
    Sarasota, FL
    '06 260 Sundancer, 6.2, BIII, Kohler 5kw
    79' classic Kona Family Cruiser jet boat..
    6.2 w/ BIII, 502 w/ Berkekley
  5. Royal Lichter

    Royal Lichter Member

    63
    Jan 22, 2018
    2005 Sea Ray Sundancer 260
    Single MerCruiser Mag 350 MPI w/ Bravo III
  6. Curtis

    Curtis Member

    54
    Feb 6, 2013
    San Antonio, Texas
    320 Sundancer 2004
    Previous 280 Sundancer
    Twin 8.1 (496 Mags) w Bravo III drives
    I am replacing because the old one dumped all the oil on me. I should have limped in on the other engine but I refilled the reservoir and tried to get back to the slip. Very expensive mistake I will never do again. She locked up on plane. I have talked to several shops and they all told me they are going to charge as much or more to go through it as a reman would cost. Life lesson
     
  7. Curtis

    Curtis Member

    54
    Feb 6, 2013
    San Antonio, Texas
    320 Sundancer 2004
    Previous 280 Sundancer
    Twin 8.1 (496 Mags) w Bravo III drives
    While the Arneson kit looks really cool, $22k is way out of my price range.
     
  8. Curtis

    Curtis Member

    54
    Feb 6, 2013
    San Antonio, Texas
    320 Sundancer 2004
    Previous 280 Sundancer
    Twin 8.1 (496 Mags) w Bravo III drives
    If I buy a reman, I am leaning toward a Merc reman. I was curious about the All American Drive Service because they offer a two year warranty at $4250. A reman from Merc has only a one year warranty and is about $6500. A new Merc has a one year warranty and is about $8500. Since nobody is singing praises for the AADS lower unit, I’ll stick with new one reman Merc. Thank y’all for the responses.
     
  9. Strecker25

    Strecker25 Well-Known Member SILVER Sponsor

    Nov 20, 2014
    Rochester, NY
    1998 290 Sundancer
    Twin 5.7EFI/Alphas, Kohler 4kw
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  10. Curtis

    Curtis Member

    54
    Feb 6, 2013
    San Antonio, Texas
    320 Sundancer 2004
    Previous 280 Sundancer
    Twin 8.1 (496 Mags) w Bravo III drives
  11. Strecker25

    Strecker25 Well-Known Member SILVER Sponsor

    Nov 20, 2014
    Rochester, NY
    1998 290 Sundancer
    Twin 5.7EFI/Alphas, Kohler 4kw
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  12. Curtis

    Curtis Member

    54
    Feb 6, 2013
    San Antonio, Texas
    320 Sundancer 2004
    Previous 280 Sundancer
    Twin 8.1 (496 Mags) w Bravo III drives
    I bit the bullet and bought the brand new Merc Bravo 3. My local dealer came down substantially which helped me make that decision. Glad I did. A couple of friends helped me jerk he old drive and install the new one. None of us has done this before. Thank you U-Tube. It was really an easy job considering and the 320 is happy, momma is happy, and I am happy.
     
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  13. Royal Lichter

    Royal Lichter Member

    63
    Jan 22, 2018
    2005 Sea Ray Sundancer 260
    Single MerCruiser Mag 350 MPI w/ Bravo III
    You made the right decision! Now, preventive maintenance:

    1. Make sure you have the right anodes on (alum/magnesium for fresh water, zinc for saltwater).
    2. Make sure your Mercathode is functioning
    3. Change the gear lube seasonally or every 100-150 hours, have the drive pressure checked for leaks
    4. While they're putting the new drive on, may want to consider boots, bellows, gimbal bearing, shift cable, and trim senders.

    Enjoy!
     
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  14. Sarges12

    Sarges12 New Member

    1
    Mar 7, 2018
    Toms River, NJ
    290 Sundancer 2001
    5.0 EFI Mercruiser w/Bravo III Drives
    This past fall I heard a noise at idle speed from my starboard drive. Thought it was one of my props, but when the boat was hauled for the winter, I found the lower drive was “clunking” when I turned the props by hand. I was told don’t waste my money on a rebuilt or reman, go new!

    Curiosity was killing me what had gone wrong with the drive. No water intrusion, no oil leak....but metal shavings when I drained the gear oil. After buying a few expensive Mercuiser tools, I broke the lower unit apart and found I had chipped teeth on all 3 gears. Of course couldn’t find anyone to rebuild this one.

    Yes, Bravo III are as expensive as all hell... Shopping..best price new gets my business.
     

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  15. Curtis

    Curtis Member

    54
    Feb 6, 2013
    San Antonio, Texas
    320 Sundancer 2004
    Previous 280 Sundancer
    Twin 8.1 (496 Mags) w Bravo III drives
    I paid $7600. for brand new in a box at my local Sea Ray dealer
     
  16. GCHOG

    GCHOG Member GOLD Sponsor

    70
    Mar 25, 2016
    Bass River, Viking Marina, South Jersey
    2006 Sea Ray 260 Sundancer
    6.2 Bravo III
    take a look at Marine Power Service right there in Wall NJ. Check website or call (732) 751-1200... really good to deal with. I believe they rebuild BIII's.
     
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