Bidens speeches at his rallys

Golfman25 said:
I am sure you apply this to claims on Trump, Bushes (both) and Regan, right?
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both bushes , reagan and trump had not the same ( sad ) goal hitler had - to answer it straight ahead .

before we waste time golfman : are you a true republican or are you a blind trump supporter ?

this is a difference , you will remember my words.
 
aerobat said:
both bushes , reagan and trump had not the same ( sad ) goal hitler had - to answer it straight ahead .

before we waste time golfman : are you a true republican or are you a blind trump supporter ?

this is a difference , you will remember my words.
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What are you talking about. A few post up, I said I don't like the "Hitler references" toward any politician. I just asked if you applied the same logic to the Republican Presidents who have been called Hitler as you do to Biden. Because you see, if you turn to page 3 of the Democrat playbook, it is right there in black and white -- compare the Republican to Hitler.
 
either i fail to understand your english ( as a german ) or i do not get you .

i will never apply any logic to compare any american president , republican or democratic , to hitler .

what do you want to say ?
 
aerobat said:
either i fail to understand your english ( as a german ) or i do not get you .

i will never apply any logic to compare any american president , republican or democratic , to hitler .

what do you want to say ?
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That is all I was trying to clarify. You first post on the subject was limited to Biden. it should be applicable to both sides.
 
Golfman25 said:
Kumbaya my lord, Kumbaya.
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That is what happened when the founding fathers created your nation. Its hokey, and it is symbolic, but it is what is needed.

You have to cooperate in order to not let the far left or the far right win. You have to align on core American values or nothing will get done. Roughly half of Americans are Democrats and half are Republicans, and that is even in most of the red and blue states. Even your own state of Illinois. I know it varies county to county, but Democrats are your coworkers and neighbors and they are Americans.

Stay at the extreme right if you want to personally, but you should be hoping your government leaders can cooperate to move your conservative agenda forward, while working to temper the far left agenda. And you should be hoping that the hundreds of millions of Americans that are not at the extremes will not support those that are.

So yeah, Kumbaya my Lord, Kumbaya. #MAGAT
 
Creekwood said:
That is what happened when the founding fathers created your nation. Its hokey, and it is symbolic, but it is what is needed.

You have to cooperate in order to not let the far left or the far right win. You have to align on core American values or nothing will get done. Roughly half of Americans are Democrats and half are Republicans, and that is even in most of the red and blue states. Even your own state of Illinois. I know it varies county to county, but Democrats are your coworkers and neighbors and they are Americans.

Stay at the extreme right if you want to personally, but you should be hoping your government leaders can cooperate to move your conservative agenda forward, while working to temper the far left agenda. And you should be hoping that the hundreds of millions of Americans that are not at the extremes will not support those that are.

So yeah, Kumbaya my Lord, Kumbaya. #MAGAT
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The problem is that Democrats are, what I call, one wayers. Their cooperation only works one way. Go back and look at their reaction to the 2016 election. They spent 4 year de-legitimizing an elected US President. They refused to compromise on just about anything. Now they hold out an olive branch and say give us a chance. Hell look what some of them are doing now: creating blacklists, calling Trump voters despicable, etc. Democrats play to win. In the past, Republicans just wanted to be liked -- i.e.; loveable losers.
 
Golfman25 said:
The problem is that Democrats are, what I call, one wayers. Their cooperation only works one way. Go back and look at their reaction to the 2016 election. They spent 4 year de-legitimizing an elected US President. They refused to compromise on just about anything. Now they hold out an olive branch and say give us a chance. Hell look what some of them are doing now: creating blacklists, calling Trump voters despicable, etc. Democrats play to win. In the past, Republicans just wanted to be liked -- i.e.; loveable losers.
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Too much generalization. Yeah, both sides of the government have slid down the slide of decency. Both sides have tried to paint the other half of your fellow Americans as demons. Don't buy into the BS. The citizens elect the government. You the people, can slide further down the slide of decency or you can take that olive branch in good faith and end it. And make it clear to the government leaders of both stripes that you don't support either side demonizing American citizens (extremists and criminals aside). Or at least try. The American people need to end the division, not the politicians. #MAGAT
 
I'm not reaching across the aisle to Leftists. Never gonna happen.
 
Creekwood said:
And make it clear to the government leaders of both stripes that you don't support either side demonizing American citizens (extremists and criminals aside).
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One of the first things Mr. Biden plans to do is restore "diversity" training based on critical race theory -- which basically says all whites are bad. There's unity for you. Like I said, the Democrats are one wayers.
 
OllieC said:
I'm not reaching across the aisle to Leftists. Never gonna happen.
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That is your choice to make 53% of American's your enemy. Nothing ever gets accomplished at the extremes, except starting wars.

I am a conservative. Some of my friends are very left. I was steaming mad when the Trudeau Liberals were elected. I still vehemently disagree with a lot of the Liberal's policies, but our democratic system says I am in the minority in Canada (for now - I am still trying to convince as many Liberals as I can to see the other side).

The most left leaning people I know live two doors down. They are fantastic people. A teacher and a lawyer for the government. Great kids, but had the same issues as we are with raising young adults. They love their parents. They love their country. When times get rough, they would do anything for us, and we would do anything for them. We disagree on some aspects of how the country should be governed and what role government should play in Canadian society. They are not communists. They are not anti-capitalism. They believe in hard work and setting goals and merit-based success. They are anti-crime. They are god loving but not radicals. Catholics but not anti-muslim. I don't hate them in any way. Not one bit. But we disagree on many political matters.

When you have democratic countries where about half lean left and half lean right, you have governments that will tilt back and forth left and right over time. The US has that, Canada has that. I truly believe that we are a more unified nation by respecting both views and working to a consensus that works for both side. Unity does not mean agreeing on everything. It means agreeing on most things. If most things are not agreed, or if the process to sort this is out is not respected, then a Nation cannot succeed.

Mark 3:25 "And if a house be divided against itself, that house cannot stand".
 
Golfman25 said:
One of the first things Mr. Biden plans to do is restore "diversity" training based on critical race theory -- which basically says all whites are bad. There's unity for you. Like I said, the Democrats are one wayers.
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Why the inflammatory statement "which basically says all whites are bad"? That is not what it is about, and that is not what it talks about. Presumably you have a black friend or two. Maybe one or two that are black Republicans and voted for Trump because they believe in Republican values. Why don't you ask them whether they think that diversity training is needed, and if so, why?
 
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Creekwood said:
That is your choice to make 53% of American's your enemy. Nothing ever gets accomplished at the extremes, except starting wars.

I am a conservative. Some of my friends are very left. I was steaming mad when the Trudeau Liberals were elected. I still vehemently disagree with a lot of the Liberal's policies, but our democratic system says I am in the minority in Canada (for now - I am still trying to convince as many Liberals as I can to see the other side).

The most left leaning people I know live two doors down. They are fantastic people. A teacher and a lawyer for the government. Great kids, but had the same issues as we are with raising young adults. They love their parents. They love their country. When times get rough, they would do anything for us, and we would do anything for them. We disagree on some aspects of how the country should be governed and what role government should play in Canadian society. They are not communists. They are not anti-capitalism. They believe in hard work and setting goals and merit-based success. They are anti-crime. They are god loving but not radicals. Catholics but not anti-muslim. I don't hate them in any way. Not one bit. But we disagree on many political matters.

When you have democratic countries where about half lean left and half lean right, you have governments that will tilt back and forth left and right over time. The US has that, Canada has that. I truly believe that we are a more unified nation by respecting both views and working to a consensus that works for both side. Unity does not mean agreeing on everything. It means agreeing on most things. If most things are not agreed, or if the process to sort this is out is not respected, then a Nation cannot succeed.

Mark 3:25 "And if a house be divided against itself, that house cannot stand".
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Well, people like myself that traditionally have conservative values, I'm more of a libertarian actually, aren't burning down police precincts, looting, attacking opposition supporters constantly, and blocking freeways. (edit: or support a party that does) Most of us aren't expecting others to pay our bills either. Also, I have yet to hear a Republican send out a public message to 'compile a list of Biden supporters'.

So my comment stands.
 
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OllieC said:
Cool story bro.....so which states have certified electors?
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So you don't believe each states vote tallying? You believe Trump will flip 5 states vote count in court? Bet you believe in the Easter Bunny too. Trump is finished your just to much of a HUTA to realize it. We could still bet on the outcome if your that sure but I suspect your just a troll on here right now. Dullard
 
Creekwood said:
That is your choice to make 53% of American's your enemy. Nothing ever gets accomplished at the extremes, except starting wars.

I am a conservative. Some of my friends are very left. I was steaming mad when the Trudeau Liberals were elected. I still vehemently disagree with a lot of the Liberal's policies, but our democratic system says I am in the minority in Canada (for now - I am still trying to convince as many Liberals as I can to see the other side).

The most left leaning people I know live two doors down. They are fantastic people. A teacher and a lawyer for the government. Great kids, but had the same issues as we are with raising young adults. They love their parents. They love their country. When times get rough, they would do anything for us, and we would do anything for them. We disagree on some aspects of how the country should be governed and what role government should play in Canadian society. They are not communists. They are not anti-capitalism. They believe in hard work and setting goals and merit-based success. They are anti-crime. They are god loving but not radicals. Catholics but not anti-muslim. I don't hate them in any way. Not one bit. But we disagree on many political matters.

When you have democratic countries where about half lean left and half lean right, you have governments that will tilt back and forth left and right over time. The US has that, Canada has that. I truly believe that we are a more unified nation by respecting both views and working to a consensus that works for both side. Unity does not mean agreeing on everything. It means agreeing on most things. If most things are not agreed, or if the process to sort this is out is not respected, then a Nation cannot succeed.

Mark 3:25 "And if a house be divided against itself, that house cannot stand".
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Please show me where the left compromises on anything.
 
Creekwood said:
Why the inflammatory statement "which basically says all whites are bad"? That is not what it is about, and that is not what it talks about. Presumably you have a black friend or two. Maybe one or two that are black Republicans and voted for Trump because they believe in Republican values. Why don't you ask them whether they think that diversity training is needed, and if so, why?
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Nice slight of hand there. I am not talking about diversity training. I am talking about the theory it's based on.
 
@Golfman25 I sure hope you don't have any type of heart condition your way too wound up over Trump losing.
 
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