Amazing quantum physics article in WSJ

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timinfla2

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I've read this thing 3 or 4 times now and it continues to amaze me. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124147752556985009.html

I was aware of the theory for years, but this is just flat out amazing when you think of the applications. - I mean it's just outright amazing - well the science is, the encryption stuff is a bit short-sighted as I see it. non-locality is capable of so much more.

When we communicate with the Mars rover, our signals are delayed a few minutes due to our radio signals traveling at the speed of light.

Imagine now we use non-locality that manipulates an entangled photon here on earth and the corresponding manipulation takes place simultaneously on the rover, which it's computer interprets and the rover's instructions are no longer lagged.

Now fast forward into the future - we can now communicate with alien species multiple septillion light years away instantly through the use of a non-locality quantum communication device. Jesus, this is just f'n amazing!

Even more! Astronomers see into the 'past' through radio telescopes because they are seeing light that has traveled billions of light years and is now just hitting our local galaxy. If we had a way to discern naturally entangled photons from those that are truly singular photons, we could see REAL TIME what is happening in any/all corners of the universe.

If you're not actually shaking a little bit by the time you get done with this email it's because I wrote it poorly. The implications of this are just amazing and it's terrifying to me that it wasn't front page news on every single media outlet in the world - but I did see an article on Jessica Simpson. Are we really becoming just a bunch of dumb brutes?

F me running, this is just unreal and so unbelievably cool and I didn't think it had enough exposure, so I wanted to post it here.
 
Definately way cool and should have received more coverage. :thumbsup: Even this article doesn't begin to touch on the possibilities. :smt101
 
There is a movie called "Idiotic," or something like that. An army troop and a hooker are frozen for 500 years. As the plot builds, you see two high school drop-outs having multiple babies and their kids having kids. At the same time, you see two extremely educated (and stuffy) people delaying having kids until after 40. Even then, they may only have one.

When the two frozen people thaw, they awake to find that our society has degraded to a complete mess inhabited by a bunch of Jessica Simpson worshipers (that type, anyway). The President is a Rap Star. There is trash everywhere. Everyone is an idiot. The army troop solves the simplest of problems and becomes known of as the smartest man in the world. You get the idea. There has to be some truth to this.

That's the long answer to your question. Short answer - yes.
 
Tim.
That is old news.. Jimmy Neutron has been doing that years.. :grin:

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"...when one photon switched to a slightly higher energy level, its twin instantly switched to a slightly lower one. But the sum of the energies stayed constant, proving that the photons remained entangled."

Is that like Gary and Wingless?
 
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There is a movie called "Idiotic," or something like that. An army troop and a hooker are frozen for 500 years. As the plot builds, you see two high school drop-outs having multiple babies and their kids having kids. At the same time, you see two extremely educated (and stuffy) people delaying having kids until after 40. Even then, they may only have one.

When the two frozen people thaw, they awake to find that our society has degraded to a complete mess inhabited by a bunch of Jessica Simpson worshipers (that type, anyway). The President is a Rap Star. There is trash everywhere. Everyone is an idiot. The army troop solves the simplest of problems and becomes known of as the smartest man in the world. You get the idea. There has to be some truth to this.

That's the long answer to your question. Short answer - yes.
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Yeah, I saw that - it was called Idiocracy; I think Mike Judge (of Office Space, King of the Hill and Beavis & Butthead fame) wrote it.

Besides Fahrenheit 911, it was probably the most frustrating movie I ever sat through - more so because unlike F911, there was an element of truth to the movie. Very sad...
 
timinfla2 said:
I've read this thing 3 or 4 times now and it continues to amaze me. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124147752556985009.html

I was aware of the theory for years, but this is just flat out amazing when you think of the applications. - I mean it's just outright amazing - well the science is, the encryption stuff is a bit short-sighted as I see it. non-locality is capable of so much more.

When we communicate with the Mars rover, our signals are delayed a few minutes due to our radio signals traveling at the speed of light.

Imagine now we use non-locality that manipulates an entangled photon here on earth and the corresponding manipulation takes place simultaneously on the rover, which it's computer interprets and the rover's instructions are no longer lagged.

Now fast forward into the future - we can now communicate with alien species multiple septillion light years away instantly through the use of a non-locality quantum communication device. Jesus, this is just f'n amazing!

Even more! Astronomers see into the 'past' through radio telescopes because they are seeing light that has traveled billions of light years and is now just hitting our local galaxy. If we had a way to discern naturally entangled photons from those that are truly singular photons, we could see REAL TIME what is happening in any/all corners of the universe.

If you're not actually shaking a little bit by the time you get done with this email it's because I wrote it poorly. The implications of this are just amazing and it's terrifying to me that it wasn't front page news on every single media outlet in the world - but I did see an article on Jessica Simpson. Are we really becoming just a bunch of dumb brutes?

F me running, this is just unreal and so unbelievably cool and I didn't think it had enough exposure, so I wanted to post it here.
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Ummm...Do you have the Jessica Simpson link?
 
So, is like we could see into the future from our perepective, sorta like we could look at Jessica Simpson in real time any time ... and more importantly anywhere in the freaking universe!

There was a SiFi book, "Ender's Game" where people communicated glalatcially accross what was called the "spindle".

I'll have to ponder this.

Now almost as nutso was the recent publication of a scientific work where in a photo shot into a box on one side exited on the other side before it entered the box! ie time travel! The photon knew where is was going to go and where it was to exit before it went!

The equally as bizzare, is a scioentest has split a laser beam into to parts and extended the distance travleed by one half signnificantly and then rejoined the beams only to find the light traveling farthest arrived at the destintion at the same time as the direct beam. Faster than light travel? The direct beam could have stopped off for lunch!

Photons behave in very interesting ways ...

Now If I could just get my diesels to go as fast .... on a eye dropper of fuel ... yeow!
 
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Would seem to me that IF one could find already matched and intangled photons, even at great distances, one would instanly have the base for a very fast data transmission platform. One simple photon changing from a known "ON" spin to a known "Off" spin is our zero and 1 needed to create bites, bytes and Giga it all.

Problem is, would anyone else be there to read the spin?

It's sorta like how did the mythical Star Gate get to Earth without a star gate? Some one had to get it here by push cart first. And hence the need for faster than light transmission of matter. So we load up a boxc of single intangled photos, peddle them out to the universe and then use them when they get there, to set up data links ... Ummmm Klingon's where are you when we need you!
 
Now what just occurred to me is that if we know it, some other intelligent life form knows it too and has discovered it before us. And are interested in getting in on our computer poker games or just want to steal our wimmen, it doesn't matter they will want to ask the question of the ages ... is anyone else out there?

So we do not need to establish pairs necessarily, just look for coherently behaving photons that do not have known intanglements. Let's assume the other guy has figured out how to match these photons into intanglements and get there photons to us. Then observe these spin shifts for coherency of "on and off", "left or right"; or Up and Down" and de code the damn message the Klingons are already sending us ..."Do you have any Grey Pupon?" or some such Hello. I'm sure it will be humorous!:wow:

Okay so we physicists have solved universal real time communication, you engineers build the black box and be quick about it, and for crying out loud, try not to make the prototype as big as MT Everest!
 
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Exactly - it could be used a s a communications medium between intelligent species - and that is amazing as well.

Even more powerful, is the data transmission is even more exciting when you consider that there are, i believe, 32 states of quantum matter where there is only one state of a whole particle - i.e on off, positively or negatively charged.

So not only would the communication be taking place over vast distances, but the bandwidth derived from the efficiency of communicating not just in binary but in a true 32 character alphabet would be too cool for school.
 
WOW, so we are havng this talk with the Klingons 180 light years away from us and they tell us ... BTW, have you guys figured out that in 20 years you will be hit by a huge radiation storm from a super nova 200 light years way from you? Yes we saw it 180 years ago and it will hit you in 20 years! DUCK and cover friends!

The time stream is caught in the middle of the two little men talking to each other in real time.

Futher this com link would seem to require almost no energy. Sorta free like IP.
 
Yep - and if they were nice enough, they could give us the technology to build a giant radiation shield.
 
Man... you got me all worked up talking about getting my protons entangled with Jessica Simpson....
 
Skinny Jessica or Chubby Jessica? Just asking because I recall your bevy of plus-sized beauties a while back...
 
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