Alpha Gen 2 issues

33Dancer

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Jun 29, 2022
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Lake of the Ozarks
Boat Info
92 Sundancer 330
Engines
350ci with Gen 2
Hi all! I'm new at finding my way in a forum, and at servicing outdrives.i have a 92 with twin Gen 2's. I took the port c-r drive off with the shifter in forward position. I know now about the error of my ways. After I removed the drive I noticed the s.s. shoe was at an angle, and moving the shifter doesn't move it, nor can I move the upper s.s. by hand. I have replaced the s.s. bushing on the lower due to it previously leaking gear lube.the holiday weekend is approaching fast and I'm in dire need of tech. Support. I'd like to upload a pic, but I'm a novice
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Welcome to CSR.
Did you try disconnecting one of the shift cables at the engine to narrow down where the problem is?
Is the throttle and shift in a single or dual control configuration?
 
Welcome to CSR.
Did you try disconnecting one of the shift cables at the engine to narrow down where the problem is?
Is the throttle and shift in a single or dual control configuration?

I'm not sure I understand what you mean by "nor can I move the upper s.s. by hand". What is s.s.?

As mentioned previously, you'll need to remove the shift cable from the shift plate on the port engine. It's only held on by a couple of locknuts and a cotter pin. There will be three cables, the lower unit shift cable is the cable that comes from down low behind the engine. Once removed you should be able to easily push and pull the cable, which will move what you have taken a photo of. If it doesn't, a new shift cable may be in order.

While you may have made the mistake of removing the port drive with the throttle in forward gear, I would think the only real harm would come from not being able to remove the drive. But you made it past that.

I do wonder, why did you remove the drive in the first place? Was it because of this shift issue?

Tom
 
I'm not sure I understand what you mean by "nor can I move the upper s.s. by hand". What is s.s.?

As mentioned previously, you'll need to remove the shift cable from the shift plate on the port engine. It's only held on by a couple of locknuts and a cotter pin. There will be three cables, the lower unit shift cable is the cable that comes from down low behind the engine. Once removed you should be able to easily push and pull the cable, which will move what you have taken a photo of. If it doesn't, a new shift cable may be in order.

While you may have made the mistake of removing the port drive with the throttle in forward gear, I would think the only real harm would come from not being able to remove the drive. But you made it past that.

I do wonder, why did you remove the drive in the first place? Was it because of this shift issue?

Tom
I abbreviated shift shaft. Not being to move the upper shift shaft is letting you know that the connections haven't come apart at the bell housing. I'm going to look at what you mentioned inside the boat. Thank you
 
I'm not sure I understand what you mean by "nor can I move the upper s.s. by hand". What is s.s.?

As mentioned previously, you'll need to remove the shift cable from the shift plate on the port engine. It's only held on by a couple of locknuts and a cotter pin. There will be three cables, the lower unit shift cable is the cable that comes from down low behind the engine. Once removed you should be able to easily push and pull the cable, which will move what you have taken a photo of. If it doesn't, a new shift cable may be in order.

While you may have made the mistake of removing the port drive with the throttle in forward gear, I would think the only real harm would come from not being able to remove the drive. But you made it past that.

I do wonder, why did you remove the drive in the first place? Was it because of this shift issue?

Tom
I removed the drive, because it was leaking gear lube. I had that cable replaced at the shop not that long ago. I've had an issue the a drive sticking in forward gear and it might ha very been this one
 
Good luck! The shift shaft should move if you move the shifter, of course, in about a 30 degree arc if I recall. If you disconnect that cable, you can at least figure if the problem is the shift cable going down to the sterndrive, or the cable going up to the shifter itself.
 
I'm not sure I understand what you mean by "nor can I move the upper s.s. by hand". What is s.s.?

As mentioned previously, you'll need to remove the shift cable from the shift plate on the port engine. It's only held on by a couple of locknuts and a cotter pin. There will be three cables, the lower unit shift cable is the cable that comes from down low behind the engine. Once removed you should be able to easily push and pull the cable, which will move what you have taken a photo of. If it doesn't, a new shift cable may be in order.

While you may have made the mistake of removing the port drive with the throttle in forward gear, I would think the only real harm would come from not being able to remove the drive. But you made it past that.

I do wonder, why did you remove the drive in the first place? Was it because of this shift issue?

Tom
I have carburetored engines so the first thing I always do is push the button, so I don't engage the drives while starting the engines. So wasted a lot of my time and yours on this. Sorry! The drive was in neutral when I yanked it. Should I paint the mounting surfaces on the bell housing(I boat in freshwater). One last thing, the coolant hose was kinked, so I cut it and put in a 1" 90. The 3/4" looked to small. Will it get enough water flow with a 90 angle in it? I did this, because the bellows are fine and I heard there p.i.t.a. to replace.
 
Im going with a lower shift cable, i had to replace mine every year till i figured out why. First was run in a loop in the engine room. It rubbed against the steering rod and right through the outer cable. Next was it was not secured properly and rubbed on the hub and again right through the outer cable. Finally got it all figured out and good. Does not take much to kill these cables. It should flow like butter
 
Im going with a lower shift cable, i had to replace mine every year till i figured out why. First was run in a loop in the engine room. It rubbed against the steering rod and right through the outer cable. Next was it was not secured properly and rubbed on the hub and again right through the outer cable. Finally got it all figured out and good. Does not take much to kill these cables. It should flow like butter
It looks like mine goes in a loop also. Thanks for the info
 
It is supposed to loop, just make sure its not rubbing on anything. Also have someone trim drive uo and down as you look at cable low, it could rub on the hub
 

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