Adding HHO (hydroxy) to fuel to expand fuel economy

[AndersonAcres]

This technology looks interesting. Anyone heard of it working, not working, on vehicles or boats? Supposedly works on gasoline and diesel engines.

http://www.runcaronwaterguide.com/Convert-Your-Car-2-Run-On-Water-Reviews2.aspx

 

[Sea Gull]

So basically, they claim that they can use the engine to charge the battery that then separates water into hydrogen and oxygen gas through electrolysis. The hydrogen is then burned by the engine which recharges the battery...

I think the true ticket to a hydrogen economy is the use of non-fossil fuels to create the hydrogen.

 

[cagnoli]

Scam. Capital S. Just google HHO and scam. TON's of hits.

As one blogger put it in his post, if this really worked, every news agency in America would be doing hourly reports and tests on it proving that we don't need to drill for oil because we all know oil is evil

Yeah, unfortunately, just a get rich quick scheme taking advantage of the high gas prices.

Apparently, the concept is somewhat sound, but the statement that it is "safe" is out of the park wrong. Not to mention the extreme amount of current you need to actually seperate the Hydrogen atoms from the Oxygen ones.....too good to be true.

 

[Hampton]

Any time you cycle energy back and forth, it takes energy. Unless you are 100% efficient, you will lose energy in the process. If someone claims to make energy, they are mistaken.

 

[fwebster]

and, there is a preacher down in Del Rio, Texas that believes true salvation depends upon red string, miracle oil and soul cloth.

 

[chuck1]

and, there is a preacher down in Del Rio, Texas that believes true salvation depends upon red string, miracle oil and soul cloth.

What do you mean?? It is not true, wow better stop payment on the check I just sent him.:lol::smt043:lol:

Thanks for the laugh.

 

[Sea Gull]

This talk about HHO reminds me of the recent warnings about dihydrogen monoxide.

Dihydrogen Monoxide (DHMO) is a colorless and odorless chemical compound, also referred to by some as Dihydrogen Oxide, Hydrogen Hydroxide, Hydronium Hydroxide, or simply Hydric acid. Its basis is the highly reactive hydroxyl radical, a species shown to mutate DNA, denature proteins, disrupt cell membranes, and chemically alter critical neurotransmitters. The atomic components of DHMO are found in a number of caustic, explosive and poisonous compounds such as Sulfuric Acid, Nitroglycerine and Ethyl Alcohol.

DHMO=water!

 

[tmhudson2]

I agree with Sea Gull on the future of hydrogen as fuel. It seems to me that the key is to use off-peak electrical generating capacity to separate the hydrogen and oxygen rfom the water molecule. The next problem to overcome is how do you store the stuff?

 

[gredmer]

One of the national news programs did a spot on a guy who converted his 1990ish Oldsmobile to run on hydrogen. He can go an entire day on something like 4oz of water.
He did this himself so obviously the technology is real.

 

[douglee25]

It's called a fuel cell... we still don't have them.

Doug

 

[fc3]

Hydrogen disassociation from water is doable, but not economically with electrolysis at atmospheric pressures and at room temperature. The most commonly discussed production method is steam disassociation in a nuclear reactor under conditions of very high temperatures and pressures.

There's also been a lot talk about catalysts. This patent describes one. There are others. However, I don't see any in production. A patent is supposed to reveal to anyone skilled in the art enough information to duplicate the invention. Any metallurgists want to give this one a shot?

Fuel cells are a definite maybe. Last I heard, and posted elsewhere, a 200 hp fuel cell would cost in the neighborhood of $75,000. I'd need three to equal Just Ducky's twin 7.4. The fuel cells cost more than I paid for the boat when she was new. No thanks.

Best regards,
Frank