420/44 DB Owners Club

[Jaybeaux]

@380 Manoverboard https://www.racorstore.com/

 

[380 Manoverboard]

Has anyone installed Davits them selves ... or have any pictures of doing it.?

 

[saopm]

Tim, Did you take the pump assembly off and replace the duck bills on the bench?

I'm guessing you did. In that case it is 4 bolts for the pump assy and the hoses.

Yes, the bellow split causing my worst nightmare. I removed the pump assembly and worked on it on the bench/bilge floor. I used enough water and degreaser to fill a swimming pool to clean up the mess. My advice it be proactive and change the bellow too. The port side is on the list for the spring, but looks much easer and I will have a chance to flush the system before I begin.

 

[Mark.60]

Whenever I have to work on the head systems I flush a gallon of Simple Green. It smells much better when you remove hoses, or replace duck bills

 

[techmitch]

Whenever I have to work on the head systems I flush a gallon of Simple Green. It smells much better when you remove hoses, or replace duck bills

Unless you pump out every weekend, flush and then pump out again you may want to consider the Carters poopy powder regimen.

Carter’s Poopy Powder Recharge Day

Time to re-stock.

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[bajturner]

My starboard toilet won’t flush and I noticed that the toilet vacuum pump won’t stop.. Any ideas on what the fix is and the difficulties involved. Thanks.

A few questions:
- Does it pump the bowl/line empty when flushed?
- Does the bowl hold water with the valve closed?
- After flushing, does any vacuum at all get created?

Could be something stuck in the duckbills, a problem with the toilet valve seal, or worn-out duckbills.

 

[NorCalRobert]

It’s not that hard , I have done it twice cause I screwed up the first time. Get a rubber football and when you remove the exhaust you will get a slow flow of water coming in from hull exhaust , shove the football into the rubber boot that the exhaust pipe was connected to and that will stop the water and then you will have full access to the pump.

Make sure that you rule out the seal on the toilet.

The duck bills are not too bad to replace but getting to them is hard unless you remove the exhaust tube.

Maybe someone who has done the exhaust RnR could give some tips. I have heard it is a 2 person job. Once it is out, the tank and pumps are accessible. Not as accessible as the old 380 Sundancer though..

 

[NorCalRobert]

There is plenty of room for the tender to clear the chocks. Mine felt like a 5” step down, but the difference was only 1.5”.

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I used 3 inch Jeep body lift blocks to raise the platform

 

[Bruce SEA 993]

Has anyone ever found the washers for the bilge washdown faucet? It is a Whitecap P-2453C and nothing comes up for the washer kit. They may be common and available at Home Depot. There is a 100+ variety pack available from Amazon too. I really don't need that many as I do not rebuild valves like in the old houses. New ones are just tossed out.

Anyhow, this faucet is old school with 3 rubber washers. I could go to an old time hardware store if I could find one but the big box stores and the internet have wiped them out.

I guess if there is no kit, I could just go to Home Depot and stare at the washers for a while....

 

[Irie308]

Anyone with an arch mounted air horn have a pic of the horn installed? Curious if there is one that fits the round mounting pads we have on the earlier small arch design.

 

[ttmott]

Has anyone installed Davits them selves ... or have any pictures of doing it.?

I did. Presto davits.

 

[searay495]

Good morning. Can anyone explain which batteries go to what on a 2004 420 Sedan Bridge? I have 4 batteries. I imagine 2 are port and 2 are starboard. Which bank is house or are they split between the two banks? I know there is no dedicated genny Battery. Also, what charges the 2 bow thruster batteries? Thanks in advance!

 

[Irie308]

Good morning. Can anyone explain which batteries go to what on a 2004 420 Sedan Bridge? I have 4 batteries. I imagine 2 are port and 2 are starboard. Which bank is house or are they split between the two banks? I know there is no dedicated genny Battery. Also, what charges the 2 bow thruster batteries? Thanks in advance!

I recall the port is the house and the starboard pretty much runs everything on the bridge. On our boat the 12-50 pronautic charges both banks and there is an older charger for the thruster which is 24volts

 

[searay495]

Thanks. Any idea where that bow thruster charger is located?

 

[Irie308]

Thanks. Any idea where that bow thruster charger is located?

This is next to the house and port charger under the stairs to the washer/dryer.

 

[searay495]

Great, thanks!

 

[Bruce SEA 993]

There is an area along the engine room firewall, directly below the sofa that has access near the light valence in the stateroom. I found it when fishing line level outputs from the stereo to behind the sofa. That gets you into the room at least.

Hey baj,

I never got to this "12V outlet" project in the VIP stateroom but I did look at the firewall at the time. I was looking for wires going through the firewall. I just re-read this, is it a cover plate that is the access point?

Thanks for re-visiting this !!

Cheers!

 

[bajturner]

Hey baj,

I never got to this "12V outlet" project in the VIP stateroom but I did look at the firewall at the time. I was looking for wires going through the firewall. I just re-read this, is it a cover plate that is the access point?

Thanks for re-visiting this !!

Cheers!

It wasn't something as "official" as a cover plate. As I remember, there is essentially a crevice on the inboard side of the valance. I think I took a few pictures to help me blind-fish from the sofa area. Let me see if they are still around...

 

[Bruce SEA 993]

Thanks!

The pictures will help a lot. I can get the wire up and behind the couch from behind the cockpit fridge. It would be better through the engine room if possible.

There is a 110V outlet on the side of the storage under the bed near the floor. That would be a great place for the 12V outlet.

Cheers!

 

[AEO]

A few questions:
- Does it pump the bowl/line empty when flushed?
- Does the bowl hold water with the valve closed?
- After flushing, does any vacuum at all get created?

Could be something stuck in the duckbills, a problem with the toilet valve seal, or worn-out duckbills.

I’ve ordered two new vacuum pumps and a new discharge pump.

Call it a pre-emptive strike but all these stories are enough to make me have nightmares. The one thing I don’t want to do when out on the water is to spend my time up to my armpits it you know what … It’s a 16 years old boat now so time to invest so money in the toilet systems.