2010 leftover

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Ccarson

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Jul 18, 2012
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Brightwaters LI
Boat Info
2007 282 center console
Engines
2x250 Yamaha
Just curious on a 2010 leftover - at what negotiation point do you look at? Slightly higher than used?
 
I'd look at whether or not the boat had ever been registered. If not, then it's a new boat, and at that point I'd look at how boat sales are doing in your area. If boats in that size range aren't moving I'd be inclined to start somewhere below what NADA book value is. You can always come up on your original offer through negotiations with the dealer. You might want to consider negotiating with him over things that don't cost him money out of pocket like a few year's worth of winterizations, free mooring for next summer if the broker has dock space he rents out, etc.

Those things don't cost him directly but they're of value to you.
 
If the boat was never registered then it's a new boat I bought an 09 left over in 11 they made me the offer I checked around other states and bought the boat for 100000 less then the then the exact same boat in the 11 version the only reason they took so much off is they had to clear invetory for incomIng new bOats and didn't want the left over on their floor plan competing with the new boats comIng in it will depend on how much they need to get rid of it
 
Whatever offer you are comfortable making. I am sure there is some value in taking an almost 3 year old boat off of their hands.
 
kaz911 said:
Just remember - the moment you register it - it becomes a genuine 2010 model - just with low hours...
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Yes that's true but has all original warranties and it also depends if the modle changed or is the same as newer modles like my 2009 350da is the same as the 2010 thru 2012 370 da with the only dif is the 8.2 but it's the same vessel I paid 180k for my left over my freInd down the dock paid 350k for his 11 370 da I had an additional merc warranty thrown in so I'm under engine and tranny warranty until 2018 he paid 5k for it my boat had 34 hrs on it from demo rides his had 15 so my point is if you work with the dealer you can get a great deal on a newboat year dosnt really matter most dealers have accounted for the modle year whenthey start negotiating just see How bad they need to get rid of the boat
 
Mainstream, I have read a few post from you and although informative, you really need to use punctuation. Some commas, periods and the such would make them so much easier to read.
 
trit21 said:
Mainstream, I have read a few post from you and although informative, you really need to use punctuation. Some commas, periods and the such would make them so much easier to read.
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I am sorry I will try to use some punctuation.I mostly reply or post from my iPhone since Iam on the road most of my time.


Eric
 
My dealer is sitting on a 2011 330 DA that he received in August of 2010. He has not moved in price to what the current NADA is on a used model. I made that mistake with my 280DA and when the market fell thru the floor we are still sitting on a boat we are upside down on. If you plan on keeping the boat for many years then get the best deal you can. What APR is the dealer offering ???
 
wvsundancer said:
My dealer is sitting on a 2011 330 DA that he received in August of 2010. He has not moved in price to what the current NADA is on a used model. I made that mistake with my 280DA and when the market fell thru the floor we are still sitting on a boat we are upside down on. If you plan on keeping the boat for many years then get the best deal you can. What APR is the dealer offering ???
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I wouldn't expect him to move off his price until he has a viable offer. It's not considered a used boat unless it was registered and commissioned , so it's still a brand new boat if you gave him a serious offer he'd negotiate if you think your gonna get it for 30% less that would probably wishfull thinking. Everything depends on how bad he needs to move it. I know when I did mine if I went 20 year at 150k I got 3.75% for an apr. If I went under 150k it went to 4.9
 
I also got a 2007 new 320 in 2009. Price was greatly reduced compared to asking price in 2007, and obviously lower than a new 2009. My dealer at the time was desperate to get the boat off his lot. We got a great deal. Ask low, all they can say is no.
Mike
 
Just remember the only good offer you can make is one your embarrassed to make. Like stated b4 what can they do say no? So you up it little by little to youmake an agreement. Good luck
 
kaz911 said:
Just remember - the moment you register it - it becomes a genuine 2010 model - just with low hours...
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This is a great point that is not being given it's due. If you buy a 2012 and put 25 hours on it you still have a 2012, if you do the same with a 2010 you have a 3 year old vessel with low hours in the eyes of the buying public, no matter how long it has been titled. The buyer of an unsold past years model is just paying market value for it no matter how much the dealer reduces a list price. If you have ever bought a boat, you are the guy that was willing to pay the most, otherwise they would have sold it to the other guy that would have paid more.

To the OP decide what it is worth in your value system, make an offer, and hopefully you will get it at a price that works for you.

MM
 
I agree with all that's been said about the used boat thing and being a new 3 year old vessel. Where I disagree is that your paying fair market value that would depend on your dealer I paid no where near market value but my dealer needed it gone for floor planning reasons so he needed to get rid of it.so new boat extended warranties for under market. That being said like it's been said already you need to come to the table with a viabl offer and you will find out how bad they want or need to move the left over. But the most important thing is not how everyone on this board feels about a price it's how you feel you need to live with and afford your offer no matter what any of us think. IMO
 
The used boat market price is where you want to start your negotiation because that is what it will be worth as soon as you sign the papers.
 
Since Sea Ray raises prices year over year the previous model year looks like a good deal (??) so in my area they do not reduce the price much from what they were selling it for originally.
 
mainstream said:
Where I disagree is that your paying fair market value that would depend on your dealer I paid no where near market value but...
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So the dealer was an idiot? They sold the boat to you when they could have sold it for more to someone else? ...the dealer failed to expose the boat to the market? ...you had a ready willing and able buyer that would have paid you more than the dealer charged but decided to keep the boat?

Market principals are inviolable. If you believe your post you are fooling yourself. I was the highest bidder to get my boat just as you.

MM
 
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