40 Cent Increase In Gas Tax Proposed

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Increase In Gas Tax Proposed For Transportation Upgrades Congressional panel backs more funds for infrastructure needs

A congressional commission has recommended increasing the gasoline tax by as much as 40 cents a gallon over five years, allowing more highway tolls and reducing the time it takes to complete highway projects — suggestions that, while focused on major cities, could nonetheless come to Connecticut.
The 12-member National Surface Transportation Policy and Revenue Study Commission has been working on its recommendations for nearly two years. Its report, released Tuesday, focuses on ways to close the gap between what is currently spent on infrastructure, including highways, bridges and rail, and what the commission said ought to be spent.
Commission Vice Chairman Jack Schendorf said the country should spend between $225 billion and $340 billion per year, at all levels of government, on its surface transportation system, but currently spends less than 40 percent of that.
The proposal would raise the current tax of 18.4 cents per gallon of gas by 5 to 8 cents annually for five years, then index it to inflation to help repair transportation infrastructure, expand public transit and highways, and broaden railways and rural access.
Schendorf said that equates to 41 to 66 cents a day for the average American motorist.
The federal gas tax has not risen since 1993. The increase, which the commission considers a short-term solution, is proposed to take effect in 2009, when the federal government begins its next highway funding authorization period.
On Tuesday, commissioners were already fielding questions about whether their recommendations would get serious consideration. Chairman Mary Peters and two other commissioners who voted against the report's recommendations did not attend the press conference and issued a dissenting opinion, saying private-sector investment and tolls would suffice.
Peters is the U.S. Secretary of Transportation. Her boss, President Bush, has opposed an increase in the gas tax.
“A majority of our commission colleagues propose to expand transportation capacity by increasing government taxation of a commodity whose consumption we seek to discourage,” the minority view says. “Placing our energy, environment and transportation infrastructure funding policies into direct conflict with each other guarantees failure of one or all policies.”
U.S. Rep. Joe Courtney, D-2nd District, issued a statement Tuesday that also questioned the tax-hike recommendation: “Considering a gas-tax hike at a point when our slowing economy is threatened by a recession and a foreign policy that has left our domestic priorities woefully underfunded is a mistake.”
But other commission members said the public would support such an increase if assured the money would be used wisely. The report includes an overhaul of the way the federal government oversees its infrastructure.
Though the commission was formed in 2005, well before the Minnesota bridge collapse last summer, it made its report on the same day the National Transportation Safety Board held a news conference to announce that design flaws factored in the collapse.
The commission recommends replacing more than 100 existing federal transportation programs with 10 “performance-oriented, outcome driven” programs to bring the existing infrastructure into “a state of good repair,” reduce congestion to specific limits in the major metropolitan areas, reduce highway fatalities by 50 percent by 2025, foster environmental stewardship and address freight and rail issues.
The report also recommends fees for freight users and ticket taxes for passenger-rail improvements, peak-hour “congestion pricing” on highways and other tolls, and dedicating customs fees to the trust fund.
The commission also recommends that state and local governments increase their funding of transportation projects, Schendorf said.
Congress created the commission and charged it with looking at the condition and operation of the nation's surface transportation, which includes highways, bridges and rail. The Transportation and Infrastructure Committee of the U.S. House of Representatives has scheduled a hearing on the report for Thursday.
 
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Typical government committee perspective..... since we have unlimited funds, let's increase the budget. I'll never understand why they cannot operate like everyone else. Create the budgets and then prioritize..... not everything will be 100% funded. If they need help making the tough decisions about what doesn't get funded, we can all vote on that with today's technology.
 
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I have never met a politician who didn't like spending my money. Most have no concept of working for a living. I hope all the politicians who want to support such stupidity when the economy is on the ropes have the courage to put their names on this now as opposed to waiting till after November.

To Matt's point: The government can't operate that way. 100% of the funds for a given year are already spent. That's why they play the game with "emotional issues" (starving kittens in Wyoming) to increase taxes. Get a politician to cut a "core" program and watch what happens. Keep in mind we don't elect these folks because they are experts at managing and planning costs.

One of my favorite government programs which has become "core" is the $3M that is earmarked for Hawaii to train Beagles to "hunt" tree snakes......

-John
 
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The news is even worse than that....the ANNUAL increase is about 40% (5 to 8 cents per year) but the OVERALL increase is about 200% (40 cents a gallon).

I'm with you, Matt -- there aren't many businesses where, when your income is less than your expenses, you can simply mandate an increase in your income instead of controlling costs.

And I'm not sure I see how increasing the gasoline tax is going to reduce the amount of time it takes to complete a project....the permitting processes, Impact Statement process, and political bickering won't change very much. Actual construction time could be affected by paying more workers or more overtime I suppose, but I doubt that's where the real delays are.

Jeff
 
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allowing more highway tolls and reducing the time it takes to complete highway projects

Last time I checked my boat goes in the water not on a highway, so I think they need to remove the taxes at the marina's that only put gas in boats since boats don't use these roads or tolls the taxes are for.
 
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I wonder how this will impact the Marine Industry?:huh:

One of these days, this country is going to wake-up and realize that for all the complaining that's done about oil company profits...the Government gets more than THREE TIMES as much!! I used to work in the Fed Gov't before the Admiral and I moved down here, and it used to literally sicken us with some of what went on in that town!?
 
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We WA taxpayers pay over 36 cents in state taxes per gallon now. I believe that is the highest in the country. FL, you guys pay less than 20 cents... try living up here... and for that, we get no roads, no new bridges, etc. because it all goes into the general fund... where the Dems can spend it on anything they see fit... BTW, Washington's business and occupation (B&O) tax is the second leading tax source for the state. Plus we have a 8.6%+ tax on everything we buy... Can't wait fo rthe congress to bring back the idea of a state income tax again...:smt013
 
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There is another way of looking at this proposed tax increase. It really has nothing to do with finding the money to improve infrastructure. We do that already when we fund projects like the bridge to nowhere. This is all about the environmentalist agenda to stop global warming, reduce energy consumption, use less oil, etc. The same people who will not allow the drilling of Anwar, the construction of refineries and pipelines, nuclear energy plants, the storage of nuclear waste, etc,.....are behind things like tax increases on petrolium. Don't try to make factual sense of this. It is a political issue. Only yesterday Hillary slammed the GOP for not having an energy policy. The implication is she will fight for us.....give us tax relief, improve our lives (whatever that means) just vote for her. Sorry to be so political on a boating board, but this proposed tax is NOT about bulding highways and bridges. Moderators should feel free to delete this message if it's inappropriate.
 
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Shouldn't have to delete the truth....We elect these people so shame on us!!!!!
 
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We WA taxpayers pay over 36 cents in state taxes per gallon now. I believe that is the highest in the country. FL, you guys pay less than 20 cents... try living up here... and for that, we get no roads, no new bridges, etc. because it all goes into the general fund... where the Dems can spend it on anything they see fit... BTW, Washington's business and occupation (B&O) tax is the second leading tax source for the state. Plus we have a 8.6%+ tax on everything we buy... Can't wait fo rthe congress to bring back the idea of a state income tax again...:smt013

Check this out... http://www.connecticutgasprices.com/tax_info.aspx
 
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I seriously doubt there will any way to avoid this tax on Marine Gas. Most of us already pay the other road taxes when we fill up at marina pumps unless you just happen to live in a state that has an exemption.

I feel those folks who may be just "on the edge" of being able to afford a boat or fuel for the boat, will have another stumbling block put in front of them. While the auto industry finds ways to improve fuel mileage and possibly minimize the impact of higher fuel prices for road going vehicles, I see no such effort being mounted in the Marine industry. While the folks with the financial means to buy the larger boats won't be impacted as much by this, there are many others who will be. Couple all this with the recession we may be in and I think the Marine industry is in for a real tough time

Just my opinion and my 2 cents.
 
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The implication is she will fight for us.....give us tax relief, improve our lives (whatever that means) just vote for her.

You all need to get a clue. I want Hillary to win and I am going to vote for her and campaign for her. This working/having a job crap is for the birds and I want to sit on my butt at home and collect my checks. GO HILLARY!!!!
 
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I wish that Maryland would do what Delaware does if you but gas at the fuel dock for your boat at the end of the year you can submite and get a gas tax refund I think its only right if they did this after all the oil burners in Maryland dont pay a road tax at the fuel dock
 
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Move to Virginia....we get back 17 cents on every gallon of marine gas we buy. All you have to do is save the receipts and send them in. I'm getting ready to do it on the 1200 gallons of gas I bought last year.

-John
 
Am I missing something? At every fuel dock I have ever vistited they sell red dyed fuel. This fuel is sold free of Federal highway tax. Additionally, as a CT resident I can apply for a refund of the excess of CT Highway Tax over CT sales tax.

I don't see how this is a boating related issue.
 
I wonder how this will impact the Marine Industry?:huh:

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[The proposal would raise the current tax of 18.4 cents per gallon of gas by 5 to 8 cents annually for five years, then index it to inflation to help repair transportation infrastructure, expand public transit and highways, and broaden railways and rural access.
Schendorf said that equates to 41 to 66 cents a day for the average American motorist.
The federal gas tax has not risen since 1993.

My understanding is the federal gas tax of 18.4 cents per gallon applies to marine gas and diesel as well. The government spends the revenue from the marine industry in the following way:

http://www.asafishing.org/asa/government/wallop_breaux.html

The States do their own thing and some states allow you to reclaim the taxes that you pay on marine gas and diesel.

-John
 
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Move to Virginia....we get back 17 cents on every gallon of marine gas we buy. All you have to do is save the receipts and send them in. I'm getting ready to do it on the 1200 gallons of gas I bought last year.

-John

I just LEFT Virginia...what you might save in gas, that state certainly makes up for in personal property taxes!?! Jeesh!?
 
Re: 40 percent increase in gas tax iproposed

I just LEFT Virginia...what you might save in gas, that state certainly makes up for in personal property taxes!?! Jeesh!?

That's why my boat is documented and slipped in DC.....no property tax! But the car tax thing still gets me going......

-John
 

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