What a positive COVID-19 test REALLY means

Blueone said:
They want the border open
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Not yet we don't. Have no idea why the graph dips but to me looks like a catch up adjustment to capture resolved cases? Not everything is a conspiracy of government.

Majority of Canadians polled want U.S. border closed until end of 2020: Ipsos
By Maryam Shah Global News
Posted July 17, 2020 4:00 am
Updated July 17, 2020 9:51 am

More than eight in 10 Canadians surveyed in a new Ipsos poll said they want to keep the U.S.-Canada border closed till at least the end of 2020.

Hesitation to travel during the coronavirus pandemic is also high among the respondents: 93 per cent of those surveyed in the poll, conducted exclusively for Global News, said it would be too risky to travel to the U.S. this summer.

READ MORE: Canada, U.S. extend border closure agreement until Aug. 21

Travelling south of the border for leisure isn’t even an option at the moment. The countries agreed to extend the ban on non-essential travel between the two until late August.

“We’re going to keep working closely with our American neighbours to keep people safe on both sides of the border,” Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said Thursday.

“Close collaboration with our neighbours has allowed us to respond to COVID-19 in a North American approach and slow the travel-related spread of the virus,” acting Homeland Security Secretary Chad Wolf said in a tweet Thursday.

The border closure extension came as states across the U.S. experienced a surge of COVID-19 cases. As of Wednesday, Florida had seen 300,000 confirmed cases — almost three times the total number of cases reported in all of Canada.

The Ipsos poll surveyed 1,000 Canadians July 8 to 10, and found only 21 per cent of respondents felt Canada should reopen its borders as soon as possible to revive travel and tourism.

Nine in 10 respondents agreed the country should continue to require people entering Canada to quarantine for 14 days. There was little disagreement with this policy, with only two per cent indicating they strongly disagree.

Even within their own borders, not all respondents were comfortable about the idea of travelling on public transit such as trains or buses. Less than half (42 per cent) said they would be comfortable with taking transit, and just a little over a third (36 per cent) said they were comfortable with being on a plane in Canada this summer.

July alone has seen at least 17 international flights and 14 domestic flights flagged by the federal government for potential exposure to the coronavirus.

Ipsos Public Affairs CEO Darrell Bricker recently told Global News that he doesn’t find these numbers shocking and that there is a sense across Canada that the country needs to be “very, very cautious,” especially as they watch the coronavirus spike south of the border.
 
Iprof said:
Bill Gates donates money he is not forcing any agenda on WHO. Or are you hyping another conspiracy theory like the original poster?
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Quite possibly the quite possibly the most innocently naïve post ever on CSR.

The ruthless businessman who built the biggest software empire in the world and was penalized by multiple governments for anti-competitive business practices, that uses his boyish looks to appear harmless, yep, when he donates millions and billions of dollars, that guy has no agenda...
 
Iprof said:
No matter how you spin it over 144,000 confirmed Covid-19 deaths and growing everyday. It's not going to burn out it's not going away until there is a vaccine for it.
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this is absolutely true. So 80% of us must get it to reach herd immunity. As I have said here before, we have spent billions, if not trillions, and 40 years trying to develop a vaccine for HIV virus
 
Creekwood said:
Have no idea why the graph dips but to me looks like a catch up adjustment to capture resolved cases? Not everything is a conspiracy of government.
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The answer was in your post #305...it appears they didn't capture more resolved cases, just started calling cases closed before the die.
Creekwood said:
The Public Health Agency of Canada takes its recovery statistics from the provinces, which define recovered or resolved coronavirus cases in different ways. Quebec changed its criteria last week, leading to a dramatic rise in cases listed as recovered.
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Iprof said:
No matter how you spin it over 144,000 confirmed Covid-19 deaths and growing everyday. It's not going to burn out it's not going away until there is a vaccine for it.
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Woody said:
The answer was in your post #305...it appears they didn't capture more resolved cases, just started calling cases closed before the die.
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So your making this a contest now "your country is worse than mine".
 
CaptRonn said:
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Here's the companion chart showing deaths from all causes:
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OMG, looks like people have stopped dying recently from any cause, not just Covid! Can this be true? Actually not. As the note on the chart and the CDC's accompanying explanations show, CDC's death data lags by at least a month if not more. The locality and state data also lag but not by as much as all use the death certificate as the primary source of data.

Eventually, the CDC chart should look more like this:
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Covid deaths are up from the low of about 3500/week to 5600/week most recently and continue on an upward trend that started about the 1st of July.
 
It looks like the lethality rate is much lower than currently being reported. My 25 year old daughter living in Florida tested positive 10 days ago. She had a "head cold" for two days accompanied by short term lost of taste/smell. No symptoms after 48 hours. Now feels fine and scheduled to retest on Thursday.

The C.D.C. says the number of people infected ‘far exceeds the number of reported cases’ in parts of the U.S.
The number of people infected with the coronavirus in different parts of the United States has been anywhere from two to 13 times higher than the reported rates for those regions, according to data released Tuesday by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

The findings suggest that large numbers of people who did not have symptoms or did not seek medical care may have kept the virus circulating in their communities. The study is the largest of its kind to date, although some early data was released last month.

“These data continue to show that the number of people who have been infected with the virus that causes Covid-19 far exceeds the number of reported cases,” Dr. Fiona Havers, the C.D.C. researcher who led the study, said in an email. “Many of these people likely had no symptoms or mild illness and may have had no idea that they were infected.”

The researchers analyzed samples from people who had routine clinical tests, or were inpatients at hospitals, in 10 cities and states for evidence of prior virus infection. The team released early data for six of the sites in June, and for all 10 locations Tuesday in the journal JAMA. They also released data from later times for eight sites to the C.D.C.’s website on Tuesday.


In some regions, the gap between estimated infections and reported cases decreased as testing capacity and reporting improved. New York City, for example, showed a 12-fold difference between actual infections and reported cases in early April, but by early May the difference was down to tenfold.

The study indicates that even the hardest-hit area in the study — New York City, where nearly one in four people has been exposed to the virus — is nowhere near achieving herd immunity, the level of exposure at which the spread of the virus would start to dwindle on its own. To reach that level, experts believe at least 60 percent of people in a particular place would have had to be exposed to the virus.

“These figures suggest that the U.S. is nowhere near herd immunity,” said Carl Bergstrom, an infectious diseases expert at the University of Washington in Seattle.
 
The debate over masks is over. He has spoken and he is never wrong. It is now indisputable because he is the only one in the world that is free from the influence of the lying media and government/politicians.

“We’re asking everybody that when you are not able to socially distance, wear a mask, get a mask. Whether you like the mask or not, they have an impact, they’ll have an effect and we need everything we can get... I will use it, gladly ... Anything that potentially can help ... is a good thing.” - Donald J. Trump, July 21, 2020
 
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Blueone said:
Okay that’s a new one.... I didn’t even know gates created Covid

now search how gates controls who
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Here you go:


how bill gates controls who

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Creekwood said:
The debate over masks is over. He has spoken and he is never wrong. It is now indisputable because he is the only one in the world that is free from the influence of the lying media and government/politicians.

“We’re asking everybody that when you are not able to socially distance, wear a mask, get a mask. Whether you like the mask or not, they have an impact, they’ll have an effect and we need everything we can get... I will use it, gladly ... Anything that potentially can help ... is a good thing.” - Donald J. Trump, July 21, 2020
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I give President Trump a lot of credit for doing this; clearly the right thing to do. It's very rare for US politicians to ever backtrack on a position because they will take a lot of flak for doing so but I think it's admirable. He did also go on to "forgive" the administration's health official's flip-flop on masking.
 
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