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Something on the bow, what is it?

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#1 ·
i was looking at the 98 450 Sundancer I’d like to purchase. It was pouring rain so I only got one picture of this. It looks like there was a grill or cast alum part covering something. It’s obviously broken.

Is it a light?

Sorry for the inverted picture. Something happened in the sending from my phone to the Ipad. It’s just behind the anchor looking up as from the water.
 

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#13 ·
What keep

What keeps water from being forced into those openings when running the boat in a big following sea? That part of my boat is underwater for maybe 10 seconds at a time when running at 25 knots in four footers on the stern.
 
#4 ·
Bent, your horn button will be a rocker switch on the main part of the helm dash. It's spring loaded to the off position so you have to push the top part of the switch in to get it to blow, then as soon as you release it, it returns to the off position.

And BTW, newby questions are OK. That's how you learn.
 
#5 ·
By way of a suggestion, I'm assuming that you are going to get the 450 surveyed. When you do, walk alongside the surveyor and ask him every question that comes to mind. You are paying him for his time so don't be bashful about taking some of his time to answer your questions.

Let us know how it goes.
 
#7 ·
Thanks.

I’ve already contacted a surveyor. I sent him a note asking if it would be ok to tag along. I said I know how to be quiet and invisible and ask only a few questions.

Now if I can get the purchase agreement done and the loan app done it should be a done deal.

The boat broker filled me in today on all the details on how this is done with boats. I guess that’s how they earn their keep. It was very helpful.

It’s different than classic cars, that’s for sure.

Byron
 
#9 ·
If the surveyor won't let you tag along, find another surveyor. We are in the process of getting a 2003 360 Sundancer and had the survey last week. We were there for the entire survey and every time he found something he would point it out to us. He also showed us the things he liked about Sea Ray and the things he knew historically were issues. This is the second time we used him, the first time was moving from a 20' center console to a 30' twin IO cruiser. Both times he found an issue that more than covered the survey cost since they were addressed before the sale. On the 30' boat is was an INOP HVAC and this time is was the engine room automatic fire extinguisher.
 
#10 ·
Nice shine on that 20 year old boat. Hope everything goes well with the bank and your survey.
 
#11 ·
+1 on replacing with the steel grate! I did that with mine but also took the opportunity to cut a piece of door screen the same size as the grate and placed it between it and the fibreglass. It keeps the spiders from making nests in the grates.
 
#18 ·
Makes sense.
 
#19 ·
Since it was raining hard I and was already soaked I should have pursued the two holes. It appeared from below they were fairly close to the chain locker. If we got three foot waves on the river it would be considered a gale here so I don’t think much water will get to them. I looked on the internet and there is a nice stainless steel grill for this and it’s only $25 or so. Nothing irreplaceable.
 
#21 ·
Yeah, I love it too. I hope I can be a “real” owner soon. I’ve asked some pretty basic questions and every response has been just wonderful and helpful. The boat world is new and different for me.

The horn grill surprised me. I’d have never guessed it. I was wondering where the horn was located. I knew there was one someplace. The note for a nice stainless steel gill replacement was excellent. Should I become the owner of this boat it will be a neat trick to replace it. I can invision leaning over the bow (with safety line....nylon dog leash) and dropping either a screw driver or cordless drill overboard. Maybe I could bow in the slip for a while to stand on the dock. It’s still pretty high up there. Add this to the list of repairs.

Some of the car boards can get pretty rough.

If you are a dog lover like me, you can get blasted pretty hard for an opinion or question.

When tasked my favorite response is “show me the data”. It comes from my engineering mentor. He would question everything and you had best have quality data to back your responses. No response was not accepted.

Byron
 
#24 ·
Yeah, I love it too. I hope I can be a “real” owner soon. I’ve asked some pretty basic questions and every response has been just wonderful and helpful. The boat world is new and different for me.

The horn grill surprised me. I’d have never guessed it. I was wondering where the horn was located. I knew there was one someplace. The note for a nice stainless steel gill replacement was excellent. Should I become the owner of this boat it will be a neat trick to replace it. I can invision leaning over the bow (with safety line....nylon dog leash) and dropping either a screw driver or cordless drill overboard. Maybe I could bow in the slip for a while to stand on the dock. It’s still pretty high up there. Add this to the list of repairs.

Some of the car boards can get pretty rough.

If you are a dog lover like me, you can get blasted pretty hard for an opinion or question.

When tasked my favorite response is “show me the data”. It comes from my engineering mentor. He would question everything and you had best have quality data to back your responses. No response was not accepted.

Byron
I thought the picture might show it, but it's just below the rub rail I replaced my plastic too and it wasn't even broken.
https://www.fisheriessupply.com/afi....com/afi-marine-stainless-steel-grill-for-concealed-dual-trumpet-air-horn-11066

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#22 ·
Initially those horn grills were offered in 2 or 3 sizes....be sure to measure yours before ordering the ss one.

There is no magic to backing into a slip. Occasionally you will need to access t he spotlight windlass, and yes, the horn grill, so temporarily docking bow first can be a safe and handy way to handle bow access.
 
#23 ·
Thanks for the heads up! It would be nice to get one that “bolted “ right on. I’ll measure for sure. I hope the horn works. LOL.

I have to work on the “measure twice, order once” boating process.

Car guys order once then “ make it fit”. I’ll be hard pressed to go around drilling and sawing on this boat. It’s too nice for that. If this were a classic car it would be a garage queen for most guys. Appearing at only shows on bright sunshiny days.
My stuff gets driven and enjoyed, rain or shine.

Byron
 
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#31 ·
What a friendly jester, Bob. I’m working hard to purchase this boat. It will be my dream come true. I should know by the end of next week. I’ll let you know how it goes and any details I can provide if it doesn’t work out.

They have a 410 parked right next to it that is nice too but has an issue on the interior. I’ll explain by PM at this time if you like.