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#1 · (Edited)
Looking for some feedback from the peanut gallery. Quick back story.... We put in an offer on a 380 Sundancer exactly 2 months ago. The initial survey turned up a couple of items that needed to be investigated. Between the shop taking 5 weeks to address 2-3 days of work max to the mobile marine mechanic that was sent to fix a low voltage condition on the genny that took 3 weeks to repair, the process needless to say has been painstaking difficult. The broker flat out sucks and I've been pushing the entire process long myself. It's been making me rethink my purchase.

With that said, I have been evaluating going the used Class A RV route. Not taking into account fuel (boat or RV) or campsite rentals or marina overnight fees, the estimated monthly cost differential is approximately $600-$700. Our slip cost would be approx $550 and the RV I can store for free on my property. Since our boating is limited to inland lakes, it's essentially glorified RVing anyway. At the end of the day my goal was to get a boat (or possibly an RV) to give my family an option to spend more time together and make some memories.

Has anyone gone the RV route and wished they had stuck with boating? Did anyone crawl back? How about a small(er) boat and a large class A rv? Does RVing get boring? I've camped as a kid and growing up, but never traveled on the regular to and from sites in a Class A. Looks like fun, but is it? Thoughts?
 
#2 ·
I've given this some thought too over the years and when I look at it from a dollars and cents perspective it makes sense to go with the RV. Combine it with the year round ability to use the RV, and it looks even better.
But, sitting in traffic on an interstate isn't all that appealing.
There is something about being on the water that is really appealing to me too.
Plus my wife refuses to even consider given the RV an idea a try. I've suggested many times over the years that we rent one for a couple of weeks to see how we like it.
 
#3 ·
I am probably a good one to respond to this. My wife and I live on our boat and love it, I always joke, I have million dollar view, that I don"t pay for. I sell RVs a few days a week, since I am actually retired. I look at very nice RVs 3 or 4 days a week and ask myself that same question. I can drive an RVs across the country for the same amount of fuel it takes to do a 4 hour trip. $125K will buy a nice brand spanking new 35ft Winnebago that has everything we have on our boat. Same amount will buy a nice 15 yr old boat. To me it's a tough decision, but I love the water. If you go the RV route, make yourself a promise to stay off Interstates and see the country, for me, I'm staying the boat route for now. There is a lot of water out there to see, but there is a lot of America to see also. So, looking at my response, it was most likely no help. Good lock
 
#4 ·
I have been the class A motor home route for about ten years. We sold it and bought the boat about 3 years ago. We loved the RV and would not trade those memories for anything. That being said the kids (now grown) quit going, we got tired of all the driving and IMO boating is more fun. Funny thing is when we got the boat they starting coming back around for trips. Now we can't get away without them! Both are the same principle of living self contained and have similar systems to contend with. Boat buying is a ridiculous process and will never change so you have to be patient with it. Try getting a trailerable boat and hook it to the RV!
 
#5 ·
Last year we sold an older 52' Cockpit Motoryacht and relocated from Northern Cal to the New Orleans area. We had bought that boat to retire on and cruise for 5 years. That was to begin this past April when I was se to retire. Three years ago the company I was with for nearly 10 years eliminated several positions....including mine. At 64 I'm unemployed with a wife 10 years younger and not yet able to retire. Wanting money to go farther and my wife's desire to be close to family again, I retired and we made the move.

We have been talking about an RV for 3 years now. I still have a classic 23' Cobalt that I am restoring so at least I can boat. I have been looking at RVs and bigger boats again. We were going to rent an RV and give it a try. I have asked my friends that have RVs this question, "What do you do when you get the RV park and get everything set up?" Answer: "Well, we sit around and talk, have a drink and visit other folks with RVs." Hmmm, OK. So Memorial Day weekend I see a neighbor hooking up his RV and he said they were heading to an RV Park on the Gulf Coast about an hour away. I thought to myself, well that would be cool sitting and looking at the water. And then it struck me. I don't want to sit and look at the water....I want to be out on the water looking at the water. Yes, when I cruised from my home marina to another marina we got there, docked, set up the grill, opened a beverage and visited with others that have boats....Just like the RVs. But we're on a dock....over the water....not in an asphalt parking lot breathing dust from people driving by, not looking at the dumpster, not looking at 20 kids riding by on bikes. We're on the water where the air is clear, it's usually quieter and people somehow seem more respectful of nature and the surroundings.

Now before I get the crap kicked out of me by the RVers on this forum, I am generalizing and seeing this in my mind's eye. I have been in RV parks and campgrounds before....it's just not the same as being anchored out or in a marina away from home port. I used to take my boat from the Sacramento River Delta to San Francisco and the Bay. Its about 70 nautical miles and took about 5-6 hours depending on tide. I could drive to San Francisco in 90 minutes and did many times. But it's not the same as cruising into a marina on the waterfront of Sausalito, getting a slip and tying up for the night. Having a glass of wine in the quiet cockpit and watching the wildlife. I have 2 brothers and a close friend that all have RVs and I respect their choice. It's just not for me.

No....I've given up having an RV. I'm a Boater, and I will own a boat as long as I am physically able to handle it safely. It's not about money, or fuel costs or maintenance or slip vs. storage costs. I didn't get into boating because I wanted to save money. I appreciate mountains and forests but I don't like snow or cold. When asked if I'd rather vacation in the mountains or at the beach there is never any hesitation in my answer.

Boating is my drug of choice and I am an addict and at this point in my life I have no desire to kick the habit.

Hi....my name is Shawn and I'm a Boater.
 
#6 ·
I've had a limited exposure to RV'ing. I was a manager for a large RV sales company and could take any new or used RV off the lot to use for a vacation. I used several sizes and had them for up to a 10 days. It's a great way to travel and really see the US.

When we bought our current boat we did so with the intent of spending a summer on board up in Puget Sound and Canadian waters, then selling it.

After we sell it we want to travel and have considered 3 options with the proceeds from the sale of Beachcomber:
1-buy a Class A motorhome and use it
2-buy a fifth wheel trailer and pickup
3-stick the money in the bank and take fly/drive vacations and stay in hotels.

There are advantages to each of the three and we may end up doing a combination of 1&3 or 2&3. We don't have to make that decision yet so lots of time to think about it.
 
#8 ·
I have to say I'm quite impressed with the replies thus far. Good feedback or at least things to give us something to think about.

For us living in Texas, boating is a year round thing. This is new to me coming from the East Coast where they had a layup period of 6 months. Slip costs are a 'sunk cost' (no pun intended) and they are only annual contracts and much more pricey out this way. That part just urks me and will continue to urk me when I cut that check. Choosing a boat or rv is not about the money either, but at least on paper, saving approximately 500/month or 6k per year is definitely something tangible.

I do understand boat repairs are never quick per say, but in this case, the marina missed about 10 promised deadlines based on their schedule, not mine. That was the kicker. Plus I found work by their mechanics that was horrible where I threw a stink (open exhaust and they were grinding with aluminum dust going right inside). Unless the boat comes out of the water, I plan to do all my work.

Anyway, back to the RV... my plan there is to go places within a 3 hour drive. I wasn't aware how popular RVing was in Texas until I looked. There are literally hundreds of places to go. Like was mentioned above, my wife feels I'll get bored quick and as soon as I'm sitting camped by the lake, I'll just wish I was back on the water.
 
#9 ·
The boredom is my fear. My brother has a new 5th wheeler. Its the 3rd new trailer they've bought in 4 years. They are retired living in Spokane, WA and go to Palm Springs, CA for 2-3 months every winter. To me, that's not RVing. May as well rent a condo. But they do go other places in the NW and once camped they play golf and....well, that's about it. I also have a friend with a beautiful Class A Tiffin Allegro. Paid $240k for it and they use it for going around the country to NASCAR races. None of that sounds appealing to me. I'll stick with the boats. If I get board on the boat I can usually find a spot of fiberglass that needs attention or something that needs some 409.

Doug, that $550 a month for a slip sounds pretty reasonable to me. In California I was paying $700 and I know in Winthrop Harbor just north of Chicago a 35' slip was $1000 plus $1000 a month for covered winter storage.
 
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#15 ·
I do both. I would never dream of parking my class A on pavement next to other people. I have never stayed in a campground. That isn't camping to me. I go down deserted forest roads and camp in nature.
I have a trailerable boat. No slip fees. The bottom of my boat stays shiny that way. So, now I have a house in every city, and a boat on every lake. If I need to stay in a hotel when I am just boating, that's ok also.
 
#17 ·
LOL I've never seen that before. That is crazy, so crazy it looks neat. I'd like to get a ride in one. How do you anchor, or can you? What happens when you bottom out on the ramp and can't get out? That is a nice gentle ramp, they all are not like that. Is it 4 wheel drive to get up the ramp I wonder?
 
#18 ·
I have also thought about this many times, mainly due to the financial differences. Boat slips are hard to get, and $ in SoCal. Many of The service techs are not very good and charge 1.5x what similar terrain based companies get.

With that said, it is also very difficult to get good RV parking spaces along the nicer beach areas if you come to Southern California.

On a boat, most people shut it down at nine or 10 PM at night. I think an RV or trailer park there is a much greater chance to have Bubba 5 feet away from you partying till 2 AM.

We are continuing to do the boating thing in our mid 50's, but the RV may eventually happen when we get in to our 60's For the financial aspects.
 
#19 ·
Marina costs are kind of crazy, and around here a lot of them don't let you work on your own boat beyond simple maintenance. That is hard on folks that are trapped and can't just put the boat on a trailer and bring it home for a few days to work on.
I'm lucky in that I own my dock space and can do whatever I want.
It's been my experience that marine repairs always cost more than you think they will, and most marine mechanics or repair techs are hard to get hold of and take longer than you think they would. That's usually because they are good, and as a result, are pretty backlogged.
I'd have to assume the same would be the case with RV's.
For me, there are no good cold or rainy days on the boat. I say this as I sit at my dock on a cloudy day after deciding that the expected showers this afternoon and much cooler than normal temps mean it isn't worth burning the fuel on a trip to our favorite spot to anchor.
RV's may be a bit more forgiving when the weather is less than perfect.
On a daily basis (in season) the boat is still a better deal for me. While I may not move it away from the dock all the time, I still get to spend a lot of time on it using it as a waterfront condo or hangout when I only have a few hours to kill. Sometimes just having dinner on the boat at the dock is fun. I'd imagine that using an RV for just a few hours at a time wouldn't be nearly as convenient or rewarding.
In a perfect world it would be nice to have both. Especially since we have a relatively short enjoyable boating season here in the Northeast. Boat until the fall, and then RV until late Spring. But the older I get (63 now) the thought of having yet another thing to maintain gets less appealing. Between the house, my 2 special interest cars, my teen aged kids cars (luckily my wife and I drive leases), my 410, and the 18' Bowrider the kids run around in, sometimes I feel like all I ever do is work on stuff.
 
#20 ·
Marina costs are kind of crazy, and around here a lot of them don't let you work on your own boat beyond simple maintenance. That is hard on folks that are trapped and can't just put the boat on a trailer and bring it home for a few days to work on.
I'm lucky in that I own my dock space and can do whatever I want.
It's been my experience that marine repairs always cost more than you think they will, and most marine mechanics or repair techs are hard to get hold of and take longer than you think they would. That's usually because they are good, and as a result, are pretty backlogged.
I'd have to assume the same would be the case with RV's.
For me, there are no good cold or rainy days on the boat. I say this as I sit at my dock on a cloudy day after deciding that the expected showers this afternoon and much cooler than normal temps mean it isn't worth burning the fuel on a trip to our favorite spot to anchor.
RV's may be a bit more forgiving when the weather is less than perfect.
On a daily basis (in season) the boat is still a better deal for me. While I may not move it away from the dock all the time, I still get to spend a lot of time on it using it as a waterfront condo or hangout when I only have a few hours to kill. Sometimes just having dinner on the boat at the dock is fun. I'd imagine that using an RV for just a few hours at a time wouldn't be nearly as convenient or rewarding.
In a perfect world it would be nice to have both. Especially since we have a relatively short enjoyable boating season here in the Northeast. Boat until the fall, and then RV until late Spring. But the older I get (63 now) the thought of having yet another thing to maintain gets less appealing. Between the house, my 2 special interest cars, my teen aged kids cars (luckily my wife and I drive leases), my 410, and the 18' Bowrider the kids run around in, sometimes I feel like all I ever do is work on stuff.
All great points and I don't think I would ever have both. But you kind of touched on an interesting point. No one is going to go to the RV storage lot and spend the night in their 5th wheel but we'll do that on our boats....often.
 
#21 ·
We sold our 30' Sundancer last winter and found a nice class C to do a little touring and a trailer boat to at least get a little of the marine life. What I like...the RV costs me nothing when I'm not using it. What I dislike...everything else. Commercial campgrounds are cramped. State campgrounds are like living in the middle of a forest fire. Reservations are required for weekend dates whereas the boat was in the slip available to enjoy at a moments notice. Marinas generally have cleaner facilities and grounds. Boaters tend to be a bit more friendly. I'll probably hang in there with the RV for another year or so to do a little land cruising, but there's another sport cruiser in my future.
 
#23 ·
Had both. Prefer the Boat for just general goofing off! (retired now) On the Tennessee River we can cruise to any number of interesting places. With the RV, traffic & crowds (East of THE River) are just too much of a hassle these days. Week days we have the River to ourselves. Winter time, we run down the ditch (or trailer her) to the coast for a little warmer weather - Jan thru Mar - then back to G'ville to avoid the insanity at the Beach. The kids have always preferred the boat (they now have boats of their own) - even though the RV usually meant Disney or Smithsonian or Grand Canyon - seat time was just BORING! On the boat - a swim is usually just a few seconds away - water skiing and tubing for hours on end behind the Dingy or Jet Ski's --- when it got too cool to swim - hiking trails - golf courses and Friday night football games are just a dingy ride away. Best of all - I can drop anchor in my favorite slough at dusk, steak on the grill, get up early next morning, sit out on the rear deck and watch Eagles teaching their young to fish --- 100 yards off the starboard rail in the morning mist .... boat, hands down!
 
#25 ·
Interesting discussion as we are in between boats, and considering an RV as well which allows us to follows kids in college, tailgating at games, and use most of the year vs. 5 months of comfortable boating here in the east.
without having done a detailed analysis, seems annual operating costs on a 32 foot (newer ) Class C RV might be significantly less than that of a similar 32 twin inboard cruiser - assuming you store at a marina and have the yard perform maintenance and repairs - any thoughts from those who have owned both ?
We have lots of great options here in VA for RV'ng with Coast and Mountains only a few hours apart, and LOTS of great tailgating opportunities if you like pro/ college sports.
 
#26 ·
In the early posts it was stated that the RV would be cheaper but as I said....I didn't get into boating to save money. What boating provides for me is worth the money. Just my opinion and I know not shared by all. Add to that, I've never lived someplace where I could not boat year 'round. If I did I'd have to find something to control the depression.
 
#27 ·
We have a 5th wheel that we camp in and what has been said is true. You can go to RV parks, park in an asphalt lot 20-30' away from the next guy, and sometimes thats ok. We have done it a few times. Most of our summer trips are to a beach along the coast, to Parker AZ, to the sierras, or out of state. That sort of camping requires you to park next to others but we don't just sit there as there is plenty to do ie fishing, surfing, kayaking, etc. During the winter we dry camp out in Glamis, Ocotillo Wells, and a few other spots in the desert where we can off-road. We just picked up a 2001 180 BR. Its not big enough to sleep on but it is our first boat and has gotten us out on the water. Maybe one day we will ditch the desert toys and trailer and upgrade to a bigger boat but right now we live too far from the ocean to justify that expense.
 
#29 ·
I own a 32 class C. And our 270 SD. That we slip 6 months a year . We never stay on boat because we are only 10 minutes from marina. Wife likes a large bathroom lol. The down fall to the RV is you need that smaller vehicle to tow . Or plan on renting cars. Your not going to want to break Rv down and drive it site seeing every day. And for that reason we never use our more then camping a weekend here or there. Although it is my hunting condo during duck season
 
#30 ·
Well I do appreciate everyone's feedback. We made a decision and I'll explain what brought us to that.

We decided to go the RV route for now. Many reasons that led us there, but the big one is that even though it was the 'perfect boat', it was not the 'perfect area to boat in'. Being land locked we felt it would severely limit our fun as opposed to being on the East Coast where you could go just about anywhere. I guess if you grow up on a lake and are ignorant to destination boating, then it's no big deal. Going the other way it seems different now. Maybe a smaller 25' cruiser would be fine here, but this boat would have been marginally too big in my opinion. We even went back to the marina and walked the docks talking with dock neighbors. We asked them questions, asked what they did, where they went, how long was the ride, etc. One end to the other was about 20 mins or so. Secondary to the first issue, I could conceivably see moving back to the East Coast within a year or two. To sell or move the boat will just be icing on the cake during a stressful time.

The RV on the other hand will be something new for us to try out. I don't envision us staying in RV parks but rather state parks that have lakes right on the premises. I wasn't aware, but the more research I've done, the more I've realized that RV'ing in Texas is HUGE!! There are so many areas to go. We're looking forward to it. Plus at the end of the day this rig will be able to be utilized for College football tailgating and other fun activities. We shall see. If it's not fun, we'll just unload it. The dealers around here literally can't keep used rigs in stock... they sell within hours to days. We lost out on several deals during the time where we tried to make up our mind..

Keep you posted. Maybe I'll throw up a pic or two once we finalize a deal.
 
#31 · (Edited)
Makes sense. If you can't use the boat a lot, and have access, then an RV is a good way to go. Have fun.

Well I do appreciate everyone's feedback. We made a decision and I'll explain what brought us to that.

We decided to go the RV route for now. Many reasons that led us there, but the big one is that even though it was the 'perfect boat', it was not the 'perfect area to boat in'. Being land locked we felt it would severely limit our fun as opposed to being on the East Coast where you could go just about anywhere. I guess if you grow up on a lake and are ignorant to destination boating, then it's no big deal. Going the other way it seems different now. Maybe a smaller 25' cruiser would be fine here, but this boat would have been marginally too big in my opinion. We even went back to the marina and walked the docks talking with dock neighbors. We asked them questions, asked what they did, where they went, how long was the ride, etc. One end to the other was about 20 mins or so. Secondary to the first issue, I could conceivably see moving back to the East Coast within a year or two. To sell or move the boat will just be icing on the cake during a stressful time.

The RV on the other hand will be something new for us to try out. I don't envision us staying in RV parks but rather state parks that have lakes right on the premises. I wasn't aware, but the more research I've done, the more I've realized that RV'ing in Texas is HUGE!! There are so many areas to go. We're looking forward to it. Plus at the end of the day this rig will be able to be utilized for College football tailgating and other fun activities. We shall see. If it's not fun, we'll just unload it. The dealers around here literally can't keep used rigs in stock... they sell within hours to days. We lost out on several deals during the time where we tried to make up our mind..

Keep you posted. Maybe I'll throw up a pic or two once we finalize a deal.
 
#32 ·
I'm sure it will work out one way or another. I relate to the lake boating. I was never much of a lake boater. I figure all you can do on a lake is go around in a circle. I know, there are some lakes that allow destination boating and if they connect to other water bodies you can go places. I'll boat here on Lake Pontchatrain but have access to the Gulf and the Intercoastal.

Don't leave the Club and post pictures for us from the Dark Side.

Shawn