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Rolled the dice...

3.1K views 27 replies 10 participants last post by  highslice  
#1 ·
Today I dropped another couple boat bucks into an ECM. The shop called me up and said that it looked like the ECM was on the fritz by shutting down the motor and going through the restart process at low rpms. The restart process is the long horn and then the fuel pump activating. While this was happening, it was shutting off their scanning computer as well deleting the data which they thought to be really odd. While the motor was running, they said everything ran great until the shutdown that seemed to happen as the engine warmed.
It's a little unsettling to say the least not able to exactly pin-point the issue. I've had two different mechanics look at it.

So I took others advice on here and called Whipple and was pretty disappointed. They told me that I had water in it and to check the connections. I told them that the connections were fine, but they insisted I had water in it and said they couldn't do the repair. Not sure how, but okay, whatever. So I called another gentleman out of TX. Seemed to know what he was talking about, but then afterward I tried looking him up and he works from a residence and I wasn't comfortable sending it. No BBB listing either. Then I spoke with a guy out of CA, OBD Diagnostics. Really nice guy but unfortunately my ECM was too new. He only works on 2004 and below. So here I am.

Hopefully we'll be on the water before the season ends......."rant off"
 
#7 ·
At one point, my dad was talking about updating his '73 Buick Riviera 455 with the then-new Holley throttle body fuel injection and electronic ignition in the interest of getting better fuel mileage. He changed his mind when I piped-up that when it died on the side of the road, I could always get the old equipment running with a rock and baling wire. Not so for the "new-fangled" electronicals.
 
#12 ·
Lot of these manufacturers are starting to get wise to the other industries inhibiting owners of equipment from fixing their own stuff....adding layer after layer of proprietary tools and electronic diagnositic equipment that only a shop would realistically have access to. to repair. This is the other direction to built in obsolescence...equally as underhanded and insidious

Consumers need to stand up and boycott companies going down this road and praise those that are not.
 
#13 ·
Lot of these manufacturers are starting to get wise to the other industries inhibiting owners of equipment from fixing their own stuff....adding layer after layer of proprietary tools and electronic diagnositic equipment that only a shop would realistically have access to. to repair. This is the other direction to built in obsolescence...equally as underhanded and insidious

Consumers need to stand up and boycott companies going down this road and praise those that are not.
Seriously?
 
#16 ·
Well, Mercury sent the incorrect ECM. It was for a 5.7mpi Bravo, however it seemed to eliminate the issue I was having, although the motor was running extremely rich. New one won't be here until Monday.
My marina isn't happy, although Mercury will return it, they wanted them to fork over another $1500 for the correct unit until they get their mistake returned. So in the hole for $3K.
 
#17 ·
...although Mercury will return it, they wanted them to fork over another $1500 for the correct unit until they get their mistake returned. So in the hole for $3K.
What is it with these companies anymore? They screwed up; let them take the chance of being out the $1500 if you were "lax" in returning the wrong unit they'd sent you. At least they're sending you the correct unit.

Recently, I bought a replacement headlight from CARid for a late-model Mustang (an $1100 item!). When it arrived, the box looked to be a bit compromised. While the headlight looked okay on the outside, there was something loose internally when rolling the assembly around in my hands. I called their help line with my concern and they overnighted a new assembly to me, didn't care to see any of the pictures I had taken, and didn't even want the "bad" item returned! Amazing! Hello, Mercury!
 
#18 ·
Finally got out to test it. Been busy with work and was told by the marina that during their tests it seemed to clear the problem with this new ECM. Took it out today - no joy. It has actually gotten worse. Now it is trying to shut down at higher rpms as well.

I’ve been reading about the Crank Position Sensor possibly being an issue. In the older MPI motors like mine, when the sensor goes bad, it doesn’t trigger Guardian Mode or produce any codes. The computer just gets confused on the engine timing. I may throw that part at it. My marina and myself are at a loss at this point.

Of course the CPS is a $200 part from Mercruiser, but I’m assuming I can get one for a GM 5.0. Maybe from NAPA? There’s isn’t any magic to it other than being a magnet. Now I just need to find one so our Summer isn’t completely bungled.
 
#21 · (Edited)
Ollie, I feel your pain. I lost the entire 2019 season, and the first part of 2020, due to my marina destroying my windshield and piss poor customer service from Taylor Made. Taylor Made ended up making good, but not until I got around their customer service department (the only positive to come from COVID) and talked to their engineering guys. When they heard I had been waiting for a year for a windshield, they jumped into action and had one made and shipped in less than 4 weeks. Good luck, I hope you find your answers soon.

I had the ECM die on my 240 Sun Deck with the 5.7. Fortunately it was just that, the ECM died and replacing it fixed the problem.