:thumbsup:I am hoping if I ignore it long enough, it will go away!!

 

I will count this as a vote for "Dump it!"

 

For anyone that wants to Dump it is not that hard for you to accomplish your goals. Go to usercp, click edit options, click something that says basically use invisible mode and there you have dumped the reputation points thingy. For those that like it, continue to enjoy it.

 

I personally can take it or leave it. I am leaving it enabled for the time being.

 

I think it is a commendable idea, but it seems to lack a fundamental requirement of valuation systems,i.e. a consistent measurement criteria.

In the CSR rules thread the process was called a 'popularity contest'. Ignoring images of high school cliques that the term invokes, the fact is a metric based solely on a popular vote criterion is by definition a 'popularity contest'. I'm not sure what that brings to the table.

It is clear after a little reading that some of the people on CSR are helpful, some people can be helpful and a bit caustic, and others are just plain funny (the various pictures of bunnies w/pancakes on head come to mind). So how does one measure a reputation vote made because a post was funny, caustic, or helpful?

That to me makes the point that the reader still should do his research and evaluate the responses to the questions and take it from there.

So unless CSR wants to create a panel of experts who would bestow ratings to the various contributors, I don't see much value in the reputation system.

As for this being a democracy we should all recognize that it isn't. CSR is hosted by Jim's business and because the conduct here ultimately reflects on Jim's business, we have to recognize his right to impose whatever rule he wants, or exclude any member he wishes.

Henry

 

As for this being a democracy we should all recognize that it isn't. CSR is hosted by Jim's business and because the conduct here ultimately reflects on Jim's business, we have to recognize his right to impose whatever rule he wants, or exclude any member he wishes.

Henry

Actually I received quite a bit of encouragement to enable this feature. It is hardly my idea, and it is actually a standard feature of the software that probably should have been turned on since the first day. But then we wouldn't have anything fun to talk about this week.

I am quite embarrassed that this feature was not smart enough to immediately calculate the exact amount of dots for every user immediately :smt021. I guess it will take a month or so before it knows who is who. :huh:

When I first enabled it people griped that their dot was gray, so now I loosen the settings and there is complaining that there are too many green dots. Does anybody else feel my pain here :smt013

I went ahead and made this thread a poll, I was planning to do it myself anyway to see what everybody thought of this. I already cast my vote for "I could care less".

 

Although I am still not a fan of the rating system and I personally have disabled mine, I say give it time.

We will find out eventually if it is serving the right purpose. If too many green blocks (or whatever happens after that) start showing up next to folks who don't really deserve them, or not enough blocks next to those who really do deserve them, then it will be obvious it's not working the way it was intended. But if the real experts and folks who help out others all the time start getting the credit they deserve, then we will all have to admit it is probably serving it's intended purpose.

Dave S.

 

It really isn't a big deal to me either way, but I do believe in time guys like Skip and Frank etc will work their way out of the initial morass of idiocy and their rankings will reflect their knowledge base. I think the key to such a system is clear guidance that the system isn't a "hey, good joke" such of system or "hey, you're my buddy" system and rather a "he gave me great advice that helped me work through a problem" system.

 

So far……

Keep it = 4

Neutral = 1

Dump it = 2

 

Or do you feel the rating system is about as dumb as buying a boat as a financial investment.

Wait...

A boat inst a financial investment? Damn!!!:smt021:smt021:smt021

Sorry kids...no college for you.


As far as the rep, it's pretty obvious to anyone with half an orange to know through common sense which members here are knowledgeable, and with the exception of only a couple of posts here, it seems to me that each and every member has something to contribute one way or another.

I have had nothing but good advice from everyone so far.

 

:smt089 my reputation is taking a dive...thanks guys...Did not know I gave bad advice in this post...too funny.

 

Wasnt me. I have NOT given anyone any bad rep yet (which I am sure Jim could see if I or anyone is lying), and never plan to do so for any other reason than if they just give bad advice that is blatantly, obviously bad advice specifically for boating.

I will never give a bad rep for pot shots or posts in bad taste, or threads etc.

Sonmeone gave me bad rep points just for posting what they considered a thread that doesnt belong on CSR's holding tank...to me, that is the WRONG usage of bad rep points. THis is the only reason I am neutral on it and not in favor... just beacuse someone doesnt like a thread or uses the rep as a moral compass of some kind.

 

Ignoring it is much more fun

You get the benefit of knowing what others think of you and still maintain your aloofness to the bruhaha.

Keep it, ditch it, the only real impact on me and my participation is that it ups my post count.... damn... if post count is replaced by Reputation.....

All in good fun!

 

So.. If Bill takes a shot at Wes in a thread, I might boost Bill's rating because I think it was funnier than a bunny with a pancake on its head, while Wes might nuke Bill's rating for taking a shot at him in that same thread.

Looks like an "eye of the beholder" type of thing.

Michael

 

I think it should stay....not so much for giving someone a low rating...but for giving Kudo's for someone who actually takes the time to research something for someone else or post pictures of a project.

 

I didn't think the site needed this. I think it becomes pretty obvious that pretty much all advice given here is good. What worked for some, may not for others. Some here have many years experience, some not so much.

the thing i like here is that there is a wealth of information, lots of encouragement to be hands on, and plenty of joking! Yes, It can get a little too serious at times, but that's o.k.

 

No Soup for all of you.

 

No Soup for all of you.

No spam either !!!!!

 

I'm gonna go buy a rabbit like that....

 

I can take it or leave it. I agree most can soon figure out who provides the levelheaded, to the point responses. I am on another sporting site board that has done this for quite awhile and as Wes ( I believe it was) stated, the novelty of it wears off and it settles down to actually doing as intended (for the most part.. there are always those that jest, etc.. a lot of posters will actually state in the thread that they are giving negative spek or here's some positive spek for ya )

So put me down as a 'keep it' for now. :thumbsup:

 

IMHO - Post like these are just a waste, If you want to use the rep feature you will and if you don't you wont. Most user will learn real fast who knows what they are talking about and who is just full of BS, looking to up their post count.:huh:

 

I'm in favor of keeping the rep point system in place for a decent interval before taking a definitive poll on whether it should go the Survivor vote. What is a decent interval? Maybe three months?

 

I am a proponent of the reputation system. I will not disable my reputation points thingy because I want to be accountable to you guys for the accuracy and content of my contributions to CSR.

As I said before, I have been concerned about the content on CSR for while, but I admit, I am a hard core boater and I don't do this for only amusement. The comments thus far have referenced only the "green" side of things. Consider the other side: As funny as some of it was, do you really think we would have had all the heated exchanges and name calling that went on last week if everyone knew their personal reputation on the forum was at risk? I doubt it.

I think it is a mistake to turn off the system or even allow it to be member controlled. We should all be accountable for what we post on the site, good or bad, and the reputation system in certainly one way to do that. In fact, I think both the positive points and the negative points you have earned from your fellow members should appear where the little boxes are under the total post count.

And, I commend Jim for his efforts to make CSR better.

 

As funny as some of it was, do you really think we would have had all the heated exchanges and name calling that went on last week if everyone knew their personal reputation on the forum was at risk? I doubt it.

Yes. Because humor is one of the most important parts of life, and heated exchanges are interesting on a bb. As well, this is a perverse way to use a rating system, that I feel should be specific to boat knowledge and boating advice, not because you dont like what someone posted.

I am not going to change how I post in any way regardless of rep points.:smt001

 

Thank goodness that somebody decided to "Rate" me.
Otherwise, I'd still be in the "Grey" area....

I was beginning to feel lonely....... LOL

And how did Frank get the double green????

 

And how did Frank get the double green????

IMHO, Frank should have a screen that's ENTIRELY green!!! Anytime I've read any of his postings I find them to be logical, well thought out, articulate and, most of all VALUABLE.

I vote to keep the system for now, and let's see where it leads.

Cheers,

Bill

 

And how did Frank get the double green????

IMHO, Frank should have a screen that's ENTIRELY green!!! Anytime I've read any of his postings I find them to be logical, well thought out, articulate and, most of all VALUABLE...........

For those of us that have been around for a while, that was meant to be a rhetorical question..........

Heck, give em 10 of them!!

 

instead of squares, can't we use the various bunnies w/stuff on it's head as indicators?

 

:wow: I love it!

 

I vote no.

 

In a word, useless. I vote no.

 

Awesome!

Sounds like it's working perfectly.