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How to teach the girlfriend to back the tahoe down the ramp?

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#1 · (Edited)
I just bought my boat a few weeks ago and am doing pretty well at backing it. I've backed trailers quite a bit when moving and all that. Right now I'm backing the 8.5' trailer & boat into a 10' storage spot each time we use it and down the ramp to the point where I'm ready to unhook the boat and let someone guide it in the last few feet.

Most of the time I've had friends with us that have some experience backing and they have been able to back the trailer for me to get the boat out of the water. Sunday was the first chance for the girlfriend to do it since it was just us and my sister. It took about 15 minutes and frustrated all the other boaters trying to get their boats out before a storm coming. I tried to give her as many tips as I could think of.

What can I do to help her learn how to back? Just take the boat and tie her up (the boat :smt043) some week day night then get in the tahoe with her and do it over and over until she gets it?
 
#5 ·
Good idea but I don't think she has any friends that know how to.

Agree with you on "be elsewhere" if possible though, ha.
 
#4 ·
So you want to take your girlfriend and tie her up, put her in the tahoe and do it over and over until she gets it...

Man... I'm about to get whipped by the Makita again.

hahaha, i just edited that after reading it back to myself, hahaha:smt043
 
#6 ·
Take her to a big empty parking lot. Hand on the bottom of the steering wheel, move it left to go left, right to go right, then no more instructions! :grin: We decided from our first day of boat ownership that she would do the boat driving on and off the trailer and I would handle the rig. Once I then learned to keep my mouth shut she handles it beautifully. We are loaded (or unloaded) in less than 5 minutes. :thumbsup:
 
#7 ·
Take her to a big empty parking lot. Hand on the bottom of the steering wheel, move it left to go left, right to go right, then no more instructions! :grin: We decided from our first day of boat ownership that she would do the boat driving on and off the trailer and I would handle the rig. Once I then learned to keep my mouth shut she handles it beautifully. We are loaded (or unloaded) in less than 5 minutes. :thumbsup:
Nice. I let her drive the boat for the first time Sunday. She will need some more practice before she is allowed to get anywhere near a dock with it haha.
 
#8 ·
Go to a big parking lot that doesn't get much use. Bring some orange cones or jugs to mark out a "boat ramp lane". Tell her it's okay to run over the cones when practicing. Use one hand on the bottom of the steering wheel, not the top. Use terms like "turn the steering wheel clockwise", not right and left. Use a VOX radio with boom-mike headset to give gentle suggestions. When she gets betters, define and practice hand signals (simple ones like airport ground crews use, holding up a thumb and forefinger spread apart to indicate "two more inches" might confuse her since she was always told that distance is eight inches).

And take that other advice: have her do it with girlfriend and be far away when she actually practices. But if you are looking for a new girlfriend, ignore this part and just use a loud voice and lots of jestures: you'll been free on the market in no time...

Wh
 
#12 ·
Go to a big parking lot that doesn't get much use. Bring some orange cones or jugs to mark out a "boat ramp lane". Tell her it's okay to run over the cones when practicing. Use one hand on the bottom of the steering wheel, not the top. Use terms like "turn the steering wheel clockwise", not right and left. Use a VOX radio with boom-mike headset to give gentle suggestions. When she gets betters, define and practice hand signals (simple ones like airport ground crews use, holding up a thumb and forefinger spread apart to indicate "two more inches" might confuse her since she was always told that distance is eight inches).

And take that other advice: have her do it with girlfriend and be far away when she actually practices. But if you are looking for a new girlfriend, ignore this part and just use a loud voice and lots of jestures: you'll been free on the market in no time...

Wh

Haha, thank you for the reply. That is a good idea. I will have to figure out where we can do this and give it a try when I have a free weekend. I'll take the camera for the girl on girl part :wink:
 
#9 ·
Practice, Practice, Practice! Yep try to do it during the week when the ramp is not busy can even just do it in a big parking lot. :thumbsup:

Good one Gary, now every body knows you are into whips.:lol::smt043:lol:
 
#10 ·
Here's a couple tips....

1. Try to back down with the driver's side because it's easier to see vs. the left.

2. Eye up the lane you want to back down as you're coming towards the ramp.

2. Tell her to turn in front of the ramp lane and head away from it. When the trailer crosses the lane you want to back down, turn the wheel hard the other direction so the trailer angles better towards the lane. Now put truck into reverse.

3. At this point, turn the wheel the opposite way from where it was just prior to reversing.

4. As the trailer starts to swing in the lane, straighten out the wheel and use the driver's side mirror to keep the trailer in line. Just tell her to go very slow and make only slight adjustments.

5. If she gets out of whack and begins to jack knife, just tell her to put the truck in forward and start over.

Obviously it's hard to explain, but that's the best I can do.

Doug
 
#18 ·
Here's a couple tips....

1. Try to back down with the driver's side because it's easier to see vs. the left.

2. Eye up the lane you want to back down as you're coming towards the ramp.

2. Tell her to turn in front of the ramp lane and head away from it. When the trailer crosses the lane you want to back down, turn the wheel hard the other direction so the trailer angles better towards the lane. Now put truck into reverse.

3. At this point, turn the wheel the opposite way from where it was just prior to reversing.

4. As the trailer starts to swing in the lane, straighten out the wheel and use the driver's side mirror to keep the trailer in line. Just tell her to go very slow and make only slight adjustments.

5. If she gets out of whack and begins to jack knife, just tell her to put the truck in forward and start over.

Obviously it's hard to explain, but that's the best I can do.

Doug
Cool, good tips for sure. I will give these to her from a fellow boat member so maybe she will listen more :). It is definitely hard to explain, haha.
 
#13 ·
So you want to take your girlfriend and tie her up, put her in the tahoe and do it over and over until she gets it...

Man... I'm about to get whipped by the Makita again.
Gary, Probably the funniest thing i've read on the forum yet, :smt043:smt043 I. never cought that in the original.... I don't have a trlr for the 330, but thinking about gett'n one so i can teach the admiral how to back'er up:smt043 :smt043

Hope the leg is healing nicely
 
#23 ·
Haha, ok.. so this may bring up a good point.

How do YOU back your trailer in then?
 
#21 ·
First, just learn to load an unload it yourself, way easier than getting other people involved. 2nd - if she is going to drive the truck/trailer then certainly go to a parking lot to practice. Here is the visual I have given to people which seems to work - tell her to imagine the truck is the front wheel of the trailer. When the truck is angled to the left the trailer will back to the right, and vice versa. So don't focus so much on turning the wheels the right way on the truck, focus more on getting the truck in the right position and angle it from side to side as the front tires of the trailer (if it had front tires) would need to be angled to move in the desired direction. This sort of approach takes about 50% of thought out of a confusing activity.
 
#24 ·
First, just learn to load an unload it yourself, way easier than getting other people involved. 2nd - if she is going to drive the truck/trailer then certainly go to a parking lot to practice. Here is the visual I have given to people which seems to work - tell her to imagine the truck is the front wheel of the trailer. When the truck is angled to the left the trailer will back to the right, and vice versa. So don't focus so much on turning the wheels the right way on the truck, focus more on getting the truck in the right position and angle it from side to side as the front tires of the trailer (if it had front tires) would need to be angled to move in the desired direction. This sort of approach takes about 50% of thought out of a confusing activity.
Ooo, that is a good way of explaining it. I will send that to her.

Loading and unloading myself may be a good idea. I have never done this though. Suggestions on doing this efficiently?
 
#26 ·
I'm glad I learned how to do this backing stuff, a long time ago, way back when I was a teen, at my friend's farm, with their farm equipment! Gave me more time to learn/play when there weren't a lot of folks around, and I could care less then about what anyone thought about my driving at that point. I didn't even have my permit yet.

Seriously, I think an empty parking lot to practice is the best way to learn, and the suggestions already given will work for her. I need to do this with my gf too... She does ok, if no one is around, but gets easily flustered, if folks are watching, a couple yrs ago, she put a good size dent in my truck bumper while trying to back my empty trailer down a steep ramp (and she lost sight of the trailer - even though I told her to put the tailgate down, she didn't remember it by the time she got in the truck, because she was thinking more about all these other people wanting to get to the ramp). She still comments on how bad she feels about that dent fairly regularly, I tell her, it just adds character to my almost 9 yr old Tundra.

-VtSeaRay
 
#27 ·
Yeah, glad I am decent with backing too. Just takes going slow and small adjustments.

So any good advice for loading/unloading by myself on a 2 lane ramp?
 
#29 ·
If there's a dock, it's easy... if not... like where I unload... I have to go out, anchor my boat, and swim back to shore (no dinghy option on my 210...) then swim out, and go. reverse it all on the way back in.

-VtSeaRay
 
#31 ·
Sorry if this has been suggest before, I didn't see it.

Instruct her to NOT look over her shoulder to backup but to look forward & use all the vehicle's mirrors to see where the boat & truck are going. I also third or fourth practicing in a large vacant parking lot.
 
#32 ·
OK, I'm going to sound like a hick for a second here...

I was taught on the farm to put your hand on the bottom of the steering wheel and in reverse, you push the bottom of the wheel in the direction you want to back of the trailer to go. I do it now without even thinking about it. Also, back down the hills (ramp) in neutral so you can stop easier.

(For the haywagons with the pivoting front axle, put your hand on the top of the wheel. Works great.)

Hope this helps!
 
#35 ·
When launching, I back the trailer in, then get in the boat and take off, while my wife parks the truck. Then I meet her at the dock. I think this might work for the OP. We normally spend way less than 5min on the ramp.

When we are done. My wife drops me off at the dock, I back the trailer in, while she circles around, then she puts it on the trailer. This normally works well, however sometimes I have to winch it on the trailer. Normally we spend less than 5in on the ramp, however, it depends on wind and water currents. I'm not sure if this will work for the OP but it works for us most of the time.
 
#37 ·
When launching, I back the trailer in, then get in the boat and take off, while my wife parks the truck. Then I meet her at the dock. I think this might work for the OP. We normally spend way less than 5min on the ramp.

When we are done. My wife drops me off at the dock, I back the trailer in, while she circles around, then she puts it on the trailer. This normally works well, however sometimes I have to winch it on the trailer. Normally we spend less than 5in on the ramp, however, it depends on wind and water currents. I'm not sure if this will work for the OP but it works for us most of the time.
The first part of this worked well. The second part where she gets the boat on the trailer... we'll just say "not yet" :). Her first time to drive a boat was Sunday, ha.
 
#36 ·
Why don't you unload it yourself? Back it down, tie off a rope to the trailer and let the boat float off. Run over to the dock and tie the boat off on the dock. Jump back in the truck and go park it, call the wife and let her know you are in the water. Go warm the engine, situate the ice chest, snap down the carpet and put up the bimini top. By then the boss should have arrived ready to step onto the boat and cast off.

PS My wife doesn't allow me to take a girlfriend so there is no need to teach her how to back up the truck.
 
#38 ·
Why don't you unload it yourself? Back it down, tie off a rope to the trailer and let the boat float off. Run over to the dock and tie the boat off on the dock. Jump back in the truck and go park it, call the wife and let her know you are in the water. Go warm the engine, situate the ice chest, snap down the carpet and put up the bimini top. By then the boss should have arrived ready to step onto the boat and cast off.

PS My wife doesn't allow me to take a girlfriend so there is no need to teach her how to back up the truck.
Haha, if you're wife was ok with your girlfriend helping out, I would say you should spend the day at home with both of them rather than on the boat :)
 
#39 ·
Ok, having driven a semi for a good part of my life, I feel obligated to respond (I have probably backed more miles than most people I know have driven). Placing your hand on the bottom of the wheel is what I usually tell people, but this only works IF you are backing with your mirrors. I don't see anything wrong with backing over your shoulder, but either back over your shoulder or in your mirrors, don't try to do both. However, if you back over your shoulder you'll probably have to have your hand on the top of the wheel (unless you play in the NBA or are a monkey). So they just have to remember that what ever direction they want the back of the trailer to go to turn the opposite. The other thing that is important is small moves. I am assuming the trailer is probably a tandem axle, and therefore probably isn't as quick as a 10 foot single axle. But it is really easy to over-correct, and then you spend the rest of the time chasing the trailer and not putting it where you want. Other than that, practice, practice, practice. She'll have it in no time.

If you want a good laugh, go to a truck stop and watch some of the big name companies try to back into a spot. They get really flustered when you heckle them on the radio.....course the lot lizzards don't like it either!
 
#40 ·
If she is having trouble with the whole turn the wrong way concept. Have here grab the steering wheel on the bottom. If she does that, moving the wheel left will move the trailer left... Good luck!
 
#42 ·
Thanks for all of the advice guys. This should help tremendously. When I'm back in town from a business trip and vacation I'll take her out to a parking lot and we'll practice this.