In response to a suggestion by a fellow 410DA owner from up in the North who said we need our own thread, I am starting THE OFFICIAL 410DA thread. This is it. Post your comments, questions and BS here when talking about our boats.
410 Sundancer/Express Cruiser and 400 Sundancer/Express Cruiser **Official Thread**
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mistercomputerman
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Believe the dash is Zephyr Armorcote gelcote but not so sure it's available
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Thanks for the reply.
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Take a look at Spectrum Color https://spectrumcolor-com.3dcartstores.com/Gel-Coat-Search_c_7.html
They have matching gelcoat for just about every Sea Ray. They are my source; excellent matching.
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Has anyone replaced the OEM Vetus bow thruster prop? I’m surprised to be having issues finding the new part number. Ours is presumably original and the 3 blade design. Versie 2 and 178x203 are stamped on the lip but that doesn’t turn much up in searches. Looks like vetus switched to a 6 blade design at some point
I also emailed vetus customer support
I also emailed vetus customer support
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I think I got mine from Florida Bow Thrusters. It’s been a while and I don’t have any boat logs with me, but check them out.
It’s a change worth making, considerably quieter. Change the anode while you’re at it. I got that at Boat Zincs when I ordered the others.
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It’s a change worth making, considerably quieter. Change the anode while you’re at it. I got that at Boat Zincs when I ordered the others.
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Thanks Mark , I'll give them a call. looking forward to any reduced noise, the 3 blade is crazy loud
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Diesels and bow thrusters? Man you guys barely have to think to dock these things
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hahah you know itDiesels and bow thrusters? Man you guys barely have to think to dock these things
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Please don’t become one of those guys coming into a marina using those noisy bow thrusters constantly, just to stay straight in a fairway.
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LOl I’ll do my best. There’s a guy with a 26 footer that has one he has to use it everyday it’s so loud
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There is only one reason you will ever need a bow thruster on your boat. If you ever lose an engine, you will be very glad you have it.
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Sorry, that’s unnatural! I feel a little queasy…
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yup, pretty much. I do have the wife bump the thruster after I unhook the bow line if the wind is blowing us off the finger
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For those in the know, other than the 2 heads, is there much of a difference between a late 90s/early 2000s 380 and a 400/410 layout/size?
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A 410/400 has an actual cabin door for the mid berth. The 380 does not, at least on the few I have been on. We have three each on our dock. I have also not seen many diesel 380's although I'm sure they are out there.
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Otherwise, all else is equal?
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I think the difference is quite noticeable. In pure numbers the 400/410 is 3.5' longer in the hull, 10" wider in beam, sits 8" deeper in the water and has 4,000lbs more beefiniess. That makes a big difference in how the boat feels, especially the beam.
The 380 does have a separate shower like the 400/410 which I think is a life changer in moving up. Beyond that having a real door on the mid-cabin is a big deal for families, having the second head is pretty great when dayboating since it's closer to the steps.
The layouts look very similar. It looks like the master head on the 400/410 is more spacious but it is nice that the 380 has the private entrance to the master berth. I think the 410 may have this too.
I initially started shopping for 380's when I decided to move up from my 340. A dock neighbor of mine convinced me to at least look at one 400. Once I did there was no looking back.
I'd recommend you get on both boats to see for yourself since the prices seem very similar.
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I’d add that the beam is really felt in the engine room as well. I’ve been on a 380 with the 8.1 and they’re pretty tight. I can’t imagine how they crammed the 3126 in there but they are around
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