You're gonna lose a TON of money when you sell it.

Gofirstclass

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We've all heard that, as well as the line "The 2 best days in a boaters life are when he buys the boat and when he sells it". Well, I'm going to lay both of those rumors to rest BUT these only work if you do things right and only IF the times are right for you.

We bought Beachcomber almost exactly 10 years ago. The timing couldn't have been better for us for a number of reasons.

First, 10 years ago the US was just starting to find its way out of a deep financial depression/recession.

Second, the brokerage had picked up this boat as a repo in late 2008, expecting the financial recovery to come much sooner than it did. They had expected to flip the boat in early 2009 and make a killing.

Third, if you know anything about how bank flooring works you know that after a year of being floored, the brokerage must buy it from the bank that has been holding title to it.

So the brokerage had bet a lot of money that the financial crisis would end and when it didn't they had to take a bunch of their money to buy the title. That sucked for them but was great for me.

I started dealing with then in mid-January, 2010. I needed to trade my 330DB in and that was the only way I was going to make a deal. They didn't want to take my boat on trade but after 3 months of negotiating with them (Oh, did I tell you I LOVE to negotiate!) they agreed to take it. I had a price in mind that, if we hit that price I would have STOLEN their boat.

After the 3 months I got to within $10K of what my price was so I agreed. At that point the real work of getting a shipper, taking the fly bridge off, etc.

So, fast forward 10 years and now we have sold Beachcomber. Was I sad? Absolutely but I am looking forward to out next venture--buying a motorhome.

The diff between what we bought Beachcomber for and the price we sold it for amounted to about 14%-15%. So, it cost us money to own it for 10 years but I figure that small amount was a small price to pay for all the enjoyment and fun we got out of the boat over that 10 years.

Now, on to our next adventure.
 
We've all heard that, as well as the line "The 2 best days in a boaters life are when he buys the boat and when he sells it". Well, I'm going to lay both of those rumors to rest BUT these only work if you do things right and only IF the times are right for you.

We bought Beachcomber almost exactly 10 years ago. The timing couldn't have been better for us for a number of reasons.

First, 10 years ago the US was just starting to find its way out of a deep financial depression/recession.

Second, the brokerage had picked up this boat as a repo in late 2008, expecting the financial recovery to come much sooner than it did. They had expected to flip the boat in early 2009 and make a killing.

Third, if you know anything about how bank flooring works you know that after a year of being floored, the brokerage must buy it from the bank that has been holding title to it.

So the brokerage had bet a lot of money that the financial crisis would end and when it didn't they had to take a bunch of their money to buy the title. That sucked for them but was great for me.

I started dealing with then in mid-January, 2010. I needed to trade my 330DB in and that was the only way I was going to make a deal. They didn't want to take my boat on trade but after 3 months of negotiating with them (Oh, did I tell you I LOVE to negotiate!) they agreed to take it. I had a price in mind that, if we hit that price I would have STOLEN their boat.

After the 3 months I got to within $10K of what my price was so I agreed. At that point the real work of getting a shipper, taking the fly bridge off, etc.

So, fast forward 10 years and now we have sold Beachcomber. Was I sad? Absolutely but I am looking forward to out next venture--buying a motorhome.

The diff between what we bought Beachcomber for and the price we sold it for amounted to about 14%-15%. So, it cost us money to own it for 10 years but I figure that small amount was a small price to pay for all the enjoyment and fun we got out of the boat over that 10 years.

Now, on to our next adventure.

I remember your journey/adventure well. If I ever come upon that boat,... I will know it!

Safe travels and fair winds in that new "wheeled sail" Mike.
Thanks for your wisdom over the years.
 
Congratulations on the sale and best wishes on the next adventure. Buying one right and not getting emotionally involved until the boat is yours is the best way to start out. I hope that you get the same enjoyment out of the land based yacht as you did the water based one. Safe travels
 
We've all heard that, as well as the line "The 2 best days in a boaters life are when he buys the boat and when he sells it". Well, I'm going to lay both of those rumors to rest BUT these only work if you do things right and only IF the times are right for you.

We bought Beachcomber almost exactly 10 years ago. The timing couldn't have been better for us for a number of reasons.

First, 10 years ago the US was just starting to find its way out of a deep financial depression/recession.

Second, the brokerage had picked up this boat as a repo in late 2008, expecting the financial recovery to come much sooner than it did. They had expected to flip the boat in early 2009 and make a killing.

Third, if you know anything about how bank flooring works you know that after a year of being floored, the brokerage must buy it from the bank that has been holding title to it.

So the brokerage had bet a lot of money that the financial crisis would end and when it didn't they had to take a bunch of their money to buy the title. That sucked for them but was great for me.

I started dealing with then in mid-January, 2010. I needed to trade my 330DB in and that was the only way I was going to make a deal. They didn't want to take my boat on trade but after 3 months of negotiating with them (Oh, did I tell you I LOVE to negotiate!) they agreed to take it. I had a price in mind that, if we hit that price I would have STOLEN their boat.

After the 3 months I got to within $10K of what my price was so I agreed. At that point the real work of getting a shipper, taking the fly bridge off, etc.

So, fast forward 10 years and now we have sold Beachcomber. Was I sad? Absolutely but I am looking forward to out next venture--buying a motorhome.

The diff between what we bought Beachcomber for and the price we sold it for amounted to about 14%-15%. So, it cost us money to own it for 10 years but I figure that small amount was a small price to pay for all the enjoyment and fun we got out of the boat over that 10 years.

Now, on to our next adventure.
Wow! That was 10 years ago? I remember your thread with all the pics and some really high lift or something. Man, time flies..... Congrats on the sale & good luck on the next adventure. I am curious what your wife's nickname will be on the RV. I don't think GW flies in that scenario. ; )
 
Question
In the US can you wright off the capital loss on a boat
Hi Northern! Unfortunately, you cannot write-off the loss on the sale of a boat as it is personal-use property BUT if you sold it for more than your cost basis, you would have to pay capital gain. Life and the tax code is not always fair or makes sense.
 
Congrats also On your next adventures. At this time I can’t imagine being without a boat but maybe that will change one day
 
Hi Northern! Unfortunately, you cannot write-off the loss on the sale of a boat as it is personal-use property BUT if you sold it for more than your cost basis, you would have to pay capital gain. Life and the tax code is not always fair or makes sense.
Thanks for information
 
Congratulations on the sale.

I've always bought slightly used boats that are 3-5 years old and held on to them for a while. I'm always grateful to those that buy new and use them for a while. I understand their enjoyment of getting exactly what they want and everything being perfect but I just wouldn't be comfortable paying the depreciation price to get that.

All in all the ecosystem works well.
 
I cruised past Lake Union SR this past weekend and grabbed a few pics of Beachcomber, I was surprised to see her still moored there, thought she would have sold a long time ago. Glad that you finally found a buyer, and best of luck for the next chapter in your lives!
 
My first two boats I bought new. The first cost me $1000 per year ((purchase price - selling price)/number of years) and the second cost me $1500 per year. My third boat I purchased used and it cost me $500 per year. The new boats cost more per year, but it was nice having a shiny new boat to play with. :)
 
Hi Northern! Unfortunately, you cannot write-off the loss on the sale of a boat as it is personal-use property BUT if you sold it for more than your cost basis, you would have to pay capital gain. Life and the tax code is not always fair or makes sense.

US tax code never makes sense ..especially for expats. If I sell my house in Canada I am liable for capital gains taxes to the US. If I win the lottery in Canada I have to give 50% of it to the IRS (Canada does not tax the lottery) The only country in the world that bases taxation on citizenship and not residency. I pay thousands every year to file my taxes in the US despite not residing nor having earned a single dollar there since 2012. And that's just scratching the surface. FFS

Anyway sorry ..not meaning to hijack. This tends to make me really grouchy especially near tax time. :)

GRATS on the sale Mike! Good luck hunting for a motor home! Can't wait to see what you end up with.
 
I was in Seattle today but didn't drive by the brokerage. I'm not surprised it's still there. The buyer is in Vancouver, BC and with the border being closed he can't come down to get it. He has to hire a licensed captain to take it up there for him, but that ain't gonna happen until all the t's are crossed and the i's dotted.

I got papers via emailed pdf yesterday from the marine title company. We signed them, had them notarized then faxed them back. Overnighted the originals back to the title company then phoned the nice lady there to tell her we had complied with her requests. She said the $$$ likely would reach my account Friday (tomorrow).

I drove over to the other side of the state today (and back) to look at a motor home. It was less than stellar but the day was not a total loss. I picked up a dozen Easter cookies and took two of them to our grand daughters in Seattle and brought the rest home to pass our around here. 502 miles round trip. I'm beat and working on my third margarita!
 
The lady from Maritime Title called today to verify our account number where the money is to be sent. She had it correct and 2 hours later, BINGO, it arrived. Gotta love today's world of electronics.
 

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