Yet another likely CO tragedy

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Cincy Aquaholic, Jul 3, 2018.

  1. Cincy Aquaholic

    Cincy Aquaholic Active Member

    Mar 15, 2009
    Cincinnati
    290 SS - 2016 Ford F250 Powerstroke
    Twin 5.7 with Bravo 1's
  2. electricaldoctor

    electricaldoctor Well-Known Member TECHNICAL Contributor PLATINUM Sponsor

    May 14, 2008
    Thousand Islands, Rockport, Ontario.
    1988 390 EC
    454 Mercruiser Gassers
    With the current heat snap that we are experiencing, I suspect that more boaters will be running their generators while they sleep.
     
  3. Todd320

    Todd320 Active Member

    501
    Jul 21, 2016
    St. Petersburg, FL
    2007 Sea Ray 320DA
    Twin V-drive 5.7L 350 Horizon
    So sad to hear, I can see myself in that news article. I need to know what happened, don’t want to sleep on the boat with the generator running, unless I know I am doing everything right. It would be pretty crucial to hear that they did everything right, or what items they did wrong. Just trying to learn. We spend the night on houseboats every year in july in TN, we run generators 24/7, never had an issue, but those boats are maintained by a large marina that depends upon getting everyone out alive. Need to make sure I’m at least doing all I can.
     
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  4. Little Ducky

    Little Ducky Well-Known Member

    Jun 5, 2017
    Chattanooga TN/Dickson TN
    1998 SeaRay 290 Sundancer
    Twin EFI 5.0L w/Alpha 1 drives
    Sad.

    Hope everyone takes this seriously when they are rafted up during the holiday activity.

    Just keep in mind your attempt to keep your boat cool might just kill the occupants in the neighboring boat(s).
     
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  5. Quint4

    Quint4 Well-Known Member TECHNICAL Contributor SILVER Sponsor

    Oct 6, 2006
    S.W. Ohio
    330 Sport Bridge
    5.7 MPI 350 Merc Bluewaters
    So sad!! My boat has 2 factory hardwired detectors and I also keep 2 battery powered CO detectors on board.

    Go buy a couple today, get the unit with the digital readout.

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  6. DarkJester

    DarkJester Active Member

    155
    Jul 26, 2011
    North Alabama, Guntersville lake, Tennessee River
    2011 270 SLX
    Merc 8.2 MAG Bravo III
    Don't mind saying I'm a little confused. Aren't the generator systems designed to run and vent exhaust so that it doesn't kill the occupants? Don't misunderstand my statement, I'm all for following the rules and getting safety detectors just in case, but are we looking at a poorly designed system? Aren't you supposed to be able to run the generator for the A/C and Refrigerator, and TV and stuff like that? If not then please explain the point of a generator. I can charge batteries with the engines.
     
  7. Cincy Aquaholic

    Cincy Aquaholic Active Member

    Mar 15, 2009
    Cincinnati
    290 SS - 2016 Ford F250 Powerstroke
    Twin 5.7 with Bravo 1's
    Of course but parts fail. Things break. People do stupid things etc etc. I’m going to buy a second back up battery powered one in addition to the one hardwired and the other dual battery/Outlet ones I have.
     
  8. CaptRonn

    CaptRonn Active Member

    252
    May 25, 2016
    Houston
    1999 Sea Ray 400 Sedan Bridge
    Mercruiser Horizon 8.1 MPI
    Most of these accidents are with portable generators, or poorly maintained generators. And there is usually a lack of CO detectors in the mix.

    As with most things, when properly maintained and with proper safety precautions there is usually no problem.
     
  9. Golfman25

    Golfman25 Active Member

    167
    Sep 12, 2009
    IL
    281
    V8
    My question is, if they where in a marina, why weren't they plugged in? Something doesn't sound quite right.
     
  10. strange weather

    strange weather Member SILVER Sponsor

    271
    Sep 4, 2010
    Lake Mead
    320 Sundancer 2005,Raymarine C80 GPS SmartCraft System w/Auto Pilot 5kw Kohler Generator
    T-VD 350 Magnum MPI Horizon
    I have the same set up as Quint- having said that when I'm anchored for the evening I'm always aware the gen is running for the a/c - kind of like sleeping with one eye open if you know what I'm talking about - be safe on the 4th
     
  11. CaptRonn

    CaptRonn Active Member

    252
    May 25, 2016
    Houston
    1999 Sea Ray 400 Sedan Bridge
    Mercruiser Horizon 8.1 MPI
    I've been in marinas where the slip didn't have power outlets and had to run my generator.
     
  12. Golfman25

    Golfman25 Active Member

    167
    Sep 12, 2009
    IL
    281
    V8
    Maybe, but the marina they where at has electric service. I would find the noise of a generator at night in a quite marina at night very annoying.
     
  13. CaptRonn

    CaptRonn Active Member

    252
    May 25, 2016
    Houston
    1999 Sea Ray 400 Sedan Bridge
    Mercruiser Horizon 8.1 MPI
    I've overnighted in marinas that had electrical, but the transit slip I got didn't have any, so I had to run my generator. I made a trip from Lake Pontchartrain through Mobile up the Tenn Tom where I had to run my generator non stop for several days, and three of the marinas I went to didn't have power on the transit slip.

    With that said I'm not familiar with the marina in the story or if they were transit, or any details of why their generator was running.
     
  14. northshore

    northshore Well-Known Member SILVER Sponsor

    Jan 17, 2011
    Cleveland, OH
    1989 340 Sundancer
    Raymarine E90W Radar/Chartplotter
    Twin 454 Mercruiser 340's
    Bay Point is a pretty nice, full service facility. I cant see why they would be running their genny unless the place was so full they had to put them in some spot that they never intended to have anyone tie up at.
     
  15. Joel_MD

    Joel_MD Member

    210
    Jun 20, 2016
    Chesapeake Bay
    390 Motor Yacht, 2005
    Cummins 480 CE
    It would be nice to know some details. Was it a legitimate marine genset, or some kind of Rube Goldberg contraption? Gas or diesel? Did the boat have CO alarms?
     
  16. CliffA

    CliffA Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    Dec 29, 2009
    Lake Norman, NC
    2001 Sea Ray 340DA
    Name: 'Happy Place'
    4.5kW West. Generator
    Purchased Nov. 2014
    Fresh Water Use
    Twin Merc. 6.2L (MPI)
    Raw Water Cooled
    V-Drive Transmissions
    or maybe someone else's genny was running nearby and they didn't know it.....my genny is very quiet when running and if you were past around 20 ft. from my boat you would likely not hear it, especially if you were in a cabin....

    cliff
     
  17. KevinC

    KevinC Well-Known Member

    Feb 25, 2011
    Long Island, NY
    2004 340 Sundancer
    1988 Proline Center Console - 90hp Mariner/Mercury
    1969 Boston Whaler
    Twin 8.1 V-drives
    +1 Just picked up a few before the season. Amazon has them and there a great backup to the hardwired.

    They are important to have even if you don't have a generator.

    -Kevin
     
  18. Stee6043

    Stee6043 Well-Known Member

    Jun 1, 2015
    West Michigan
    1997 Sundancer 400
    7.4L Gassers
    Unfortunately, it's stories like these that some will use to justify the use of a portable. "how could they be any more dangerous then the onboard kind".

    Hopefully they'll release more details about the cause. Very sad story....
     
  19. Woody

    Woody Well-Known Member

    Nov 20, 2007
    N. Wisconsin/Lk Superior
    2005 420DA
    Cummins 6CTA8.3
    Maybe they did a nice slow cruise the evening before. It's possible their cabin could have accumulated dangerous CO levels along with them already getting a does while riding in the cockpit. Now you get back to the marina, you're feeling like hitting the sack early tonite...down into the cabin you go.

    I remember a posting a few years ago...boat was cocktail cruising, teenager was 'bored' and went below. They said it was approx 15min later someone else went below and the kid was already unconscious.

    Everything can be working perfectly, no generators of any kind or any outside source need be involved. The main engines and lack of CO detectors can get you.
     
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  20. northshore

    northshore Well-Known Member SILVER Sponsor

    Jan 17, 2011
    Cleveland, OH
    1989 340 Sundancer
    Raymarine E90W Radar/Chartplotter
    Twin 454 Mercruiser 340's
    And it has been miserably hot and humid so going below immediately closing everything up is a distinct possibility.
     

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