Would it be bad karma???

I'll get them 25 demerits for him posting that so you might as well post some porn pics also. . :smt043
 
OldSkool said:
My oh My, where should I start.
Leave me preface this with the acknowledgement that I am posting to a mariners form. One of the most superstitious lots on planet earth.

As I stated previously, I'm not a superstitious person at all. I know where Hellman is coming from but I believe his intentions are ill placed on this forum. I see many "traditions" in the Christian faith that many make their doctrine with little or no bases biblical fact. Traditions of music, dress and personal actions have infiltrated the church and caused more dissention than out right heresy.

Same goes for superstitious rites, ordinances, hex's and the like.

I make no apology for naming my faith. I find no inconsistency in the trinity as I am a father, a son and the spiritual guide of my family. Three in one if you will. My belief is not based in druidism as that faith is based on signs and times of the earth cycle.

Christianity is the only religion that claims total salvation through its single profession of Christ as the savior. All others claim a prophet that requires works for achieving the better after life.

All this I believe to be true an accurate. I also believe that my God will not kill me if I throw salt over my shoulder or take bananas on my fishing boat or break a bottle over the bow of my boat.

Jesus said “render unto Caesar what is Caesars’ and unto God what is Gods”. I refuse to put mans intuitions and superstitions at the same level as Gods precepts and principles.

Just a little oil to pop the corn with Scott.

BTW I love Gordon Lightfoots rendition
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Great Post Old Skool, but contrary to popular belief I had no intentions in responding to this thread other than to express my opinion to the thread. If people get upset it is their fault. I like a good debate, kind of what our country was founded on. If some can not take it and loose their cool, I believe their intentions should be questioned, not mine.
 
Hellman Huddle said:
Great Post Old Skool, but contrary to popular belief I had no intentions in responding to this thread other than to express my opinion to the thread. If people get upset it is their fault. I like a good debate, kind of what our country was founded on. If some can not take it and loose their cool, I believe their intentions should be questioned, not mine.
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OK, I'm calling Bull**** on what you just posted, and I'm referring back to your first post, which was the first comment posted right below my original question...
Hellman Huddle said:
Re: Would it be bad karma???
C'mon man, get real, there are more serious and educational topics out there than this! If you are superstitious you better get out of boating.
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Only an idiot would believe that your first post was put there in the interest of generating a spirited debate. It could only be viewed as an attack against me for my original post. It would appear to me, from the postings of others, that I'm not the only one on here who believes, at least in part, that there is reason to pay homage to Poseidon and the other gods of the seas.

If you view that as superstition and don't believe in the old traditions, then that's your choice, but I don't think you should be putting others down for what they believe. If you want to attack me personally for my wanting to follow long established traditions please don't insult my intelligence and try to disguise your comments as some poorly constructed attempt at debate.

BTW, you never did respond to my question to my questions that I directed to you in post #42 above. Cat got your tongue? (I hope for your sake it wasn't a black cat!)
 
I can't belieive how an innocent question raised the so much of a fuss and deteriorated so quickly. I can't wait for the weekend to go boating.
 
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Heck I Christen every new part I put on the boat. Just last night I replaced the control module on my ice maker and made a whole ceremony with the first ice cube that popped out.
 
I've not practiced the christening ceremony but I sure wouldn't pass up an oppurtunity to share in a ceremony that involves ice cubes and a blender....generally speaking that is!
 
Gofirstclass said:
Geeesh Hellman, just when I thought you'd removed the knot from your panties now you go and destroy my faith in you.

Yes, one could easily say that these past centuries of boating traditions and superstitions are pure nonsense and there's a big part of me that tends to agree with that. I, for example, own a black cat so it would not be accurate to say I'm a superstitious person.

The one big thing that jumps off the page in this thread is that you are the one who is uptight about these superstitions. Some of the posters on here engage in these ceremonies and some don't, but you seem to be the only one who has gone postal about the topic.

If the rest of us want to have some fun with it, why do you get upset about it? Oh, and by the way, do you send nasty letters to the Secretaries of the Coast Guard and Navy when they christen a new ship? Do you likewise send out nastygrams to the ministerial people who annually conduct the hundreds of "Blessing of the Fleet" ceremonies around the world?

If not, why not? Or do you simply save up all your rant powers and bless us with them?

Just saying
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Here's the answer you so need: Since you don't seem to understand my point I'll tell you again, I have no problem with traditions, but there is a difference between tradition & superstition. It is a tradition to christen a new ship, it is a superstition if you think bad things are going to happen to you if you don't christen a ship. I fully welcome and appreciate tradition, superstition is as I stated in another post. You can go look that up! As the original thread began, is it bad Karma? , or will bad things happen to me if I don't do this? THis to me is silly and ridiculous and that is my opinion! Do you understand now? I cannot explain it any simpler? Tradition yes! Superstition no!
 
Turtlesboat said:
Heck I Christen every new part I put on the boat. Just last night I replaced the control module on my ice maker and made a whole ceremony with the first ice cube that popped out.
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carterchapman said:
Turtle - I hope that ceremony involved vodka, kaluha, and Irish cream - and a blender! mmmmm, mudslides!
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osd9 said:
I've not practiced the christening ceremony but I sure wouldn't pass up an oppurtunity to share in a ceremony that involves ice cubes and a blender....generally speaking that is!
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You three are going to hell too.
 
Gofirstclass said:
OK, I'm calling Bull**** on what you just posted, and I'm referring back to your first post, which was the first comment posted right below my original question...

Only an idiot would believe that your first post was put there in the interest of generating a spirited debate. It could only be viewed as an attack against me for my original post. It would appear to me, from the postings of others, that I'm not the only one on here who believes, at least in part, that there is reason to pay homage to Poseidon and the other gods of the seas.

If you view that as superstition and don't believe in the old traditions, then that's your choice, but I don't think you should be putting others down for what they believe. If you want to attack me personally for my wanting to follow long established traditions please don't insult my intelligence and try to disguise your comments as some poorly constructed attempt at debate.

BTW, you never did respond to my question to my questions that I directed to you in post #42 above. Cat got your tongue? (I hope for your sake it wasn't a black cat!)
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8 pages later and you don't think spirited debate was created? You may have acquired this knowledge during this thread but I'll tell you anyway, I thrive on not being with the majority, and will not believe just because others do.

I will pay homage to only one God, As I stated in an earlier post, you can look that one up too! I don't think I have hidden anything if I attacked you then so be it. Sometimes the truth hurts, and apparently you are hurting.
 
No, I'm not hurting at all. In fact, as I'm reading your last post I'm sitting here chuckling and wondering how you would explain something to me....

If you don't have a problem with traditions, but do with superstitions, can y'all explain to this poor little country boy where one stops and the next starts? If christening a boat is a tradition, why are you OK with that when (as I understand it) the purpose of the christening is to bring good luck to the ship and crew on future voyages?

It would seem to me that you're performing a traditional ceremony because you don't want bad luck to befall the ship and/or its crew. Doesn't that seem to cross the line between tradition and superstition?

Just asking, and not trying to add fuel to the fire.
 
Well let's see no one will know anything until dirt nap time, and then they still may not know?

There are over 10,000 established religions with three at least major ones, Islam, Judaism, Christianity

So in the grand scheme of things one could state religion = superstition!

So since I do not actually know if there is an actual after life, I will stick with Pascal's wager, and myself as being my own religion with a congregation of one, myself.

I do know this is an oxymoron "Religious war" More folks have died under the guise of religion then in wars.

“Spirituality gives hope, religions divide people”

It has been stated "Spirituality' prepares one for their death, and religion prepares one for their funeral.

So I say follow tradition or whatever you choose, you are you and I am I.

And for those who just have to beat some damn religious agenda or banner, go right ahead, you can only proclaim to know, but none will know anything until the long dirt nap, if they learn anything then.

Who knows one just may be dead, and food for the conquer worms. :smt043
 
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Pseudomind said:
Well let's see no one will know anything until dirt nap time, and then they still may not know?

There are over 10,000 established religions with three at least major ones, Islam, Judaism, Christianity

So in the grand scheme of things one could state religion = superstition!

So since I do not actually know if there is an actual after life, I will stick with Pascal's wager, and myself as being my own religion with a congregation of one, myself.

I do know this is an oxymoron "Religious war" More folks have died under the guise of religion then in wars.

“Spirituality gives hope, religions divide people”

It has been stated "Spirituality' prepares one for their death, and religion prepares one for their funeral.

So I say follow tradition or whatever you choose, you are you and I am I.

And for those who just have to beat some damn religious agenda or banner, go right ahead, you can only proclaim to know, but none will know anything until the long dirt nap, if they learn anything then.

Who knows one just may be dead, and food for the conquer worms. :smt043
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I guess if your right we both get a long dirt nap. If I'm right, I get eternity in heaven, and well... you get.............................I'll let you ponder that one.
 
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