Wolverine Engine Heaters

Four Suns

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Oct 4, 2006
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Williamsburg, VA
Boat Info
2003 480 DB
Engines
QSM-11 Diesels
This is just a quick note on my experiences so far, albeit limited, with the Wolverine oil pan heaters I installed. These things are essentially stick on pads that go on the bottom of the oil pan and they have sizes for just about anything:

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The company's web site is here:

http://www.wolverineheater.com/

You basically have to sand the bottom of the oil pan to scruff up the paint, stick these on, caulk around the edges with some RTV so water/dirt can't get into the mastic, and then touch up the paint. I installed an "Engine Room Heating Circuit" which was some 12/3 triplex boat wire (from bestboatwire.com) that has 3 junction boxes down in the lazarette area and engine room. Remember the 480 DB, like most of the other modern Sea Ray bridge boats, is a mid-engine boat and the lazarette area under the cockpit is as big as a Sundancer engine room... sans engines. My previous setup was an 800 watt Xtreme heater in the engine room an 800 watt Xtreme heater in the lazarette. The circuit is is tied into the AC panel with a 20A Carling breaker that matches the OEM breaker style and controls an 800 watt Xtreme heater in the lazarette and two of the 500 watt Wolverine pan heaters. The junction boxes are PVC 2x6x2 boxes I had to order from newark.com and have bus bars in them with crimped fittings on the electrical wire. This is a permanent install with no "plugs" and everything is in wire loom and installed neatly in the wire trays or tie wrapped so it looks OEM/stock. The pan heaters replaced an 800 watt Xtreme heater that was in the engine room.

The performance of the Wolverine heaters was something I wanted because it essentially keeps the oil warm so cold starts are reduced. What I've seen, even when I had icicles hanging on the boat yesterday, was the coolant temp was around 65 degrees per the gauge and the oil temp was 75 degrees per the gauge. The oil temp gauge is high up on the engine block so that's not the temp in the oil pan. When I fired up the engines, the oil temp went to 105 degrees almost instantly so that was probably the temp in the oil pan. Remember my QSM-11's have about 7.5 gallons of oil in each engine. These temps on these very big blocks of iron kept the engine room in the lower 60's even though it was down in the 20's here the other night. I also do not block off the side vents.

The Model 40 heater I installed on each engine is one size lower than what their website says to put on these engines. The web site says to install 1000w heaters on each for the engine size I have and I put 500w on each per a discussion Dom (osd9) had with the owner of the company.... just an FYI on that.

The big advantage over an Xtreme style heater is cold weather starting. You basically end up with oil at a better temp and the block temp is more like a summer day instead of dead winter.

The downside to these things is they don't have a built in thermostat. You could put one in the circuit but the time to heat the engine room from a convective heat coming off the engine block takes a lot of time. I'm not sure I would like that... If I put a thermostat on them, I would probably keep the Xtreme heater in the engine room to bring the air temp up quicker than the pads/engine. Also, I wanted these for cold weather starting in addition to engine room protection and you can't flick on an engine heater an hour before you start the engine and expect it to do any good.

Another big benefit, which I was not expecting, was the things really removed the moisture from the engine room. More so than the Xtreme heater has in the past. The raw water cooling circuits in the boat, for whatever reason, end up bringing a lot of condensation into the engine room... the condensation forms on the aftercooler and other heat exchanger/pipe surfaces and just creates a damp environment. By warming up the engine instead of just the air around the engine, the condensation is eliminated... I really like that. This is probably a function of our climate here in that it is pretty normal to swing from the upper 50's/lower 60's to 25 degrees at night almost all winter. Couple that with 40-50 degree sea water and big metal parts that don't change temperature that fast and you have a good recipe for condensation on things.

I know there are other options like coolant heaters/circulators (like emjay reported) but I just thought I would give my limited experience with this approach.

Just an FYI.
 
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As usual, great post Gary.

My (new to me) 340 does not have a bilge heater, so I was looking at both the Xtreme and Wolverine heaters.

Thanks for your wiring suggestions, also.

Question: Is it easy to fish the wire from the bilge to the CB panel? Or does it require a lot of side trim panel disassembly?

They are going to deliver it to me on Dec 2nd, so I could have them add the outlet while its in the shop for "prep" work.

I'm surprised Sea Ray didn't have a 120V outlet in the bilge.

Thanks,
 
Sea Ray does put an AC outlet in the bilge on the 480 DB but that's probably because it's a diesel boat and you don't have to worry about the ignition protection issues. I don't know how one would go about putting in an ignition protected AC outlet in a gas boat but I know some people on this board "claim" to have done it (the thought being if a "mechanic" did it, it must be "ok")... be curious what their insurance carrier would say about that but that's another issue (I wouldn't do it). When I use an engine room heater that is "temporary" on a gas boat, I've always plugged it in outside of the bilge area. The plug in my bilge on the 480 DB I use for either the shop vac, dremel tool, or portable shop light.

The reason I did not go the plug route is because we use the boat in the winter here to fish on and I don't want plugs/cords bouncing around in the winter weather here... it's always pretty rough and so the boat gets tossed around more than usual and I wanted a switch I can just turn on and off. Also, the Wolverine heaters are a permanent install by design even though they have a 110v AC plug on the end... I snipped that baby off and crimped on some connectors and hooked it to a bus bar that won't come lose.

The other issue that was debated (not here on CSR but somewhere else) was the wiring for the AC outlet in the bilge that Sea Ray put in. It has 14 gauge wire and a 20A breaker... That's not enough wire gauge to support a 20A breaker if you look at some various state building codes but it is stranded wire and not solid wire (not sure if that makes a difference). I ended up putting in 12 gauge boat wire tied to a 20A breaker...

If you do run a new circuit, it's not that hard. Just make sure you put the wire in loom and tie wrap it or support it every 12 inches or so (I think ABYC requires 18 inches but don't hold me to that). Also, there will be a spot that the wires run from the salon to the engine room and that HAS TO BE SEALED for obvious reasons.
 
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Thanks Gary,

It all makes sense. I didn't think about an "an ignition protected AC outlet in a gas boat" - duhhh - shame on me. I do like it hard wired to the CB though.

Did you use Xtreme's mounting plate? or just screw them to the bilge deck?
 
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I just screwed them to a piece of plywood decking that was already in the bilge... I put a little RTV in the screw holes first...

These are the two styles of Carling breakers from the panel on my boat:

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The red is used for the DC panel and the white is used for the AC. You need to make sure you get the right series as the bus they plug into behind the panel is different between AC and DC.
 
I'll look, but I thought I had a spare or two breakers on both the DC and AC panels...

14 gauge wire for 15 amp and 12 gauge wire for 20 amp as I recall...but I'll check. A 600 watt, 120 volt heater needs 5 amps. I hate doing "math in public", but I think all that is correct
 
I'll look, but I thought I had a spare or two breakers on both the DC and AC panels...

14 gauge wire for 15 amp and 12 gauge wire for 20 amp as I recall...but I'll check. A 600 watt, 120 volt heater needs 5 amps. I hate doing "math in public", but I think all that is correct

I went and corrected my post... it's been awhile since the wire was installed.

Sea Ray does, in fact, run 14 gauge wire with 20A breakers tied to it. I'm not sure what the deal is as that does violate building code for a house (at least in VA) but remember this is stranded wire and not solid wire.... I did buy some 12 gauge wire (12/4) for a 240 volt circuit for a water maker that is not installed yet....

FYI
 
A couple of these at $53.00 is a whole lot cheaper than a heater for the engine room too! Sounds like this would be a better way to go reducing condensation AND improving the oil and engine temps when starting. This might be the ticket for that early spring and late fall period when the boat is on the trailer, but not yet winterized. Hmmm.....

Thanks Gary! I've been thinking about an engine room heater, but they are spendy! I think you just saved some boat bucks!
 
And they are made here in Washington! Cool!
 
I added the wolverine pads to my Cummins 370B's 2 years ago. They stay on 24/7/365. No smoke at start up and they start instantly. I also don't winterize the engines... plug up the vents and we are good. Last year when it was 10 degrees outside the temp in the engine room was 42 and the top of the engines were 45 (with help from additional insulation stuff we've done) . The best part, it the water isn't frozen over we can go for a winter boat ride ;)

I still can't fine a good place on the genset to stick one on though.
 
Went to the boat today... 1/4" of ice on the swim platform... Outside temps last night in the 20's... Engine room temp: 64 degrees.
 

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