Where"s gary ???

[mwph]

After 160+ post you may have had enough but I cant help but post.
Yes, I'm new to boating & new to this site so a grain of salt if you so choose.

I can only hope that someday I know enough to post something that Gary, Frank & a few others even care enough to make ANY reply to. If & when I need to be called to the carpet & informed that I'm about to do something stupid, I want these guys to do it.

On a scale of 1 to 10 there is Me(1) and the "Gary & Franks" (10) of the world. As a reminder... most are somewhere in between. Run these guys off and you'll remain somewhere in between.

Don't like thier post? Don't read 'em. Wanna learn something? Read on.

 

[mrsrobinson]

I looked at the thread. Most of the answers were silly. But they were hardly abusive. No one posted "What a stupid question!" or anything even remotely abusive. It was all just silliness. One must be incredibly thin skinned to have been so astoundingly injured by that one single experience. I think you do your friend a disservice to suggest that the comments on that thread were so very injurious to his ego.

As far as not being technically savvy, I don't think that argument holds much water. There are guys here who don't know the difference between a web forum and a list server and they manage just fine.

Best regards,
Frank

I like you Frank, but lets agree to disagree on this one. This has nothing to do with the thickness of one's skin. If you have never posted in a forum before it's my opinion you have a lot to learn about 'how it all works' and how to get the best results from your post. My point was he does not have this experience in the internet world. It takes a while to learn how to craft your question correctly to get the most replies. He will get it, but not here since he was greeted so warmly.

In person, face to face, yes, he does. He speaks well and carries himself well. He is the kind of guy you love talking boating to as he has been involved with boats for over 30 years. Call him simple, call him a good ole boy, call him a redneck maybe, but he could have added a lot of value to CSR but for the rude replies.

I will add another tid bit of info about what kind of man he is. I have never pulled my own props. I was going to give it a try. The boat was pulled and who pulls up in his truck, in his work clothes to help me? Him. I never asked. I told him I was going to pull the boat to have the props pulled and he showed up with his prop puller, crawled under our boat and started at it. In fact I watched more than I helped. I can promise you not one of the folks I refer to in my comments in this post would ever do that. They are to busy trying to figure out how to get the next laugh on CSR.

"Greg,

Did you ever consider that the introduction you gave your friend may have made the CSR members treat him like "one of the guys" and even contributed to the good natured comments he got?"

Frank, I hear you and that is a good point. However it came across as elementary 'on the internet' only. He probably did not understand the level of detail he needed to offer and that he should have stated what he has already tried that did not work.

The man deals with the public all day. He is an excellent communicator in person. On the internet, not so much.

"Msrobinson, I am sorry your friend took this forum so seriously. You too have given me valuable advise. But I didn't think the posts where that offensive."

Offensive may not be the best word here. It was his first question, give him a break, hold off for a day or two with the humor, get to know him, get to know his 'electronic personality'...then, have fun if you want...but geesh, give the guy some credit and give him a break on his first question. And, its the way this is done sometimes...like the poster needs a "you are so cool" or "way to go" self esteem boost.

 

[osd9]

Gary's not in that pic....he's in the mens' room....pee-ing

 

[mrsrobinson]

Before anyone makes any assumptions, here's the facts and what is going on.

I did get two 10-point infractions (20 points) for various things over the last few days. According to the rules and the "not so nice" emails that come with those, I am one infraction from having my access restricted...

This is where I'm coming from. Jim and Wes are nice guys and have their hands full dealing with the personalities here on CSR. It seems there is a collection of "members" that are like PETA members standing on a street corner just waiting for me to "say something" so they can whine about it and call foul. I've been told a bunch of people have it out for me. For example, I posted a Racor petcock thread this weekend about lessons learned from a real install and air intrusion but I got some nasty email about using a made up term of "Obamanufacturing". So... I deleted it. Not just the word... but the post. I've also have been going through and removing some of the controversial stuff so life can be easier for Jim and Wes. I'm not going to go through all my posts and make sure they are "politically correct" for people that just like to complain about stuff. I don't think I insulted anyone with this post:

http://clubsearay.com/forum/showpost.php?p=149309&postcount=2

Wait... come to think of it... that post did upset some people because they use a hose on their outdrive and have never had a problem and don't see why they can't tell a guy with a big diesel it'll work for them....

There just seems to be an ever increasing crowd of "I should post and give advice because it makes me feel good and no one should call me on it." Some of the information given by these people is just wrong... but... that's probably the nature of Internet forums. I think they become unstable after a certain size....

Am I harsh? Yes... sometimes... I had an old boss once tell me coming to me for help was like using a corn cob to wipe his ass... it worked but it sure did hurt. Oh well.. sorry about that. I'm not politically correct.

There are some good people on this board... no... some great people... and some are my friends that I physically see on occasion... but there are the few that are just a pain in ass and find me as a target now. The "PETA crowd".

I need to work on finding a format that works for me and doesn't create havoc for other people... I'll let you all know how that goes.

Thanks for the compliments... and I really did think the urinal picture was funny. It's a real bitch to get double sided tape to stick in that thing.

"It seems there is a collection of "members" that are like PETA members standing on a street corner just waiting for me to "say something" so they can whine about it and call foul. I've been told a bunch of people have it out for me."

First, I doubt you have been directly told people here have it out for you. You are also one the first ones to jump into a post with wit/humor/sarcasm, so it's my opinion you too are standing on the corner waiting.....

Second, is this "so they can whine about it and call foul." the pot calling the kettle black? Correct me if I am wrong here. You seem to be the only CSR member who posts comments about what someone said to you over PM/email.

"I got some nasty email "

"the "not so nice" emails that come with those"

"there are the few that are just a pain in ass and find me as a target now. The "PETA crowd"

You also seem to be the only CSR member who will post comments on what Jim told you another member said about you. In fact, you have posted the actual comments with a picture of the PM sent to you. You also seem to be the only CSR member who refers to other members as whiners when they do send PMs that you view as negative. You also seem to be the only CSR member who likes to 'do your battles' in front of all of the other CSR members. You in my opinion are probably the only CSR member that likes to tell us when someone says something to you over PM or email that you do not like.

Speaking from my own experience I have tried to discuss things with you over PM but you chose to not reply. Instead, you chose to say something in a post, in front of all of the CSR members. Personally I have more respect for the folks that send you emails/PMs since they are taking the discussion with you offline.

So, please correct me if I am wrong, objectively speaking here, isn't this whining?

 

[Robski97]

Jim,
I took the B/S meter to be directly pointed at u .

As was posted over and over people u cant please everyone.... so get over it already ... someone posts something u dont like get over it or work it out.. Call the person out .. dont go crying to the Admin's that then really screw this up...

Rob

 

[quality time]

$100 on 30 pages...

 

[mrsrobinson]

Keep the $100, I am done, said more than I ever planned to...need to go back to my commitment to read more and respond less. I get a little heated at times and feel I need to speak up.....keeping quiet makes life much easier.

Plus, I am angry and pissed off about this thing our country called an election last night and the thousands of college kids running up and down the street last night celebrating....is one really mature enough to cast a vote for president at age 18? I am also getting sick to my stomach this morning seeing all the interviews with african americans crying and rejoicing. You don't think this election was about race...think again. I never once looked at Obama as an african american until this morning.

 

[fc3]

I had no idea they could be edited after months. I am so used to the time limit being 5 minutes or so on all the other forums I'm on. 1 hour is enough to correct it after 2 or three people have responded to call you a bonehead :grin: On the other forums I am on you have to get it right the first time.

I don't like the one hour editing limit. I don't like it much at all. They are my posts. My intellectual property. I'll do what I want with them. If you want to "own" them, then I want to be paid.

 

[PMvdb395DA]

I didn't had the intention to react on this post....

Let me begin by saying that I don't agree with the personal urinating humor.

I am a fan of Gary, and like his kind of humor (most of the time), knowledge etc.

I think that this kind of "behind the scene" fights pushed Gary over the limit....

When you want a fight with Gary, you can have it....
He isn't afraid of the consequences, and has no limits in this kind of "fun"

I like this kind of fun more!

Hope that Gary isn't angry I used his photo material. :smt100

Peter

 

[PMvdb395DA]

I don't like the one hour editing limit. I don't like it much at all. They are my posts. My intellectual property. I'll do what I want with them. If you want to "own" them, then I want to be paid.

Quick!! you have used the wrong lettertype....
You have only one hour to edit it!

 

[Vince_nj1]

I don't like the one hour editing limit. I don't like it much at all. They are my posts. My intellectual property. I'll do what I want with them. If you want to "own" them, then I want to be paid.

I didn't know we could post in such a large bold font. This is great news! I dont need my reading glasses now :grin:

 

[Kurt]

Mike,

What makes you think I know anything at all about Uncle Josh. I just figured since nobody here talks about boating anymore, it would be cool to send everyone looking for Uncle Josh. I'm actually more of a Walter Becker/Donald Fagan fan.

I can't think of anything that goes better with boating than a very long Steely Dan playlist. Give me a anchored sunset, bottle of aged scotch, a nice cigar and some AJA and my day is golden.
In relation to this thread I would like to add a great amount of thanks to Professor Webster for his sound advice. He never seems to make you feel like an idiot even if you are sometimes completely ignorant of the topic. I do find Garys posts more entertaining although he can be a bit harsh. If you don't like don't read them or even put up a fight, I think he actually enjoys confrontation. He has a wealth of boating knowledge and I am glad he is here to share it. I am glad to see the RED ball system gone. I think people dissapproved of your posts just because they did not like you.
Remember we all have a right to our own personal opinion. Just because you do something one way does not mean that is the only way to do something. Remember the adage "There is more than one way to skin a cat." I think when you post you need to post all relative factors that my influence answers you may get such as conditions, options on your boat, etc. This has helped me in recieving more accurate answers. Just because someone gives advice here it does not mean it will work it is only a suggestion. I have benefited from some and never tried some of the others.

All in all I love the site and enjoy coming home and reading the days events here. So long live Gary!

 

[jg300da]

Funny how the guy who posts "private" conversations publically and continually insults posters for having less than expert advice, is the first one to scream like a stuck pig the minute his boorish behavior is called out. Since when does some arbitrary level of boating knowledge preclude us from treating another member with respect or courtesy?
Why? because he writes an entertaining blog? All that type of behavior is going to accomplish is discourage younger or less experienced members from offering their experience or asking what may be perceived as silly questions. Members like Greg's friend.
Kearney is a member here, same as everyone else. If owning a Searay was a prerequisite, then the admin would have removed him long ago. But because he's one of the few members that doesn't hang on Gary's every word or possess his level of expertise he becomes a favorite target.
It's pretty clear here by the responses and outpouring to bring back a person, who by the admins own admission was never banned, that the vast majority enjoys and even endorses this type of behavior. Dedicate an entire section to Gary? Hell, we can do better than that! make him an admin!, better yet rename the site after him!!
Sounds like a plan.
Enjoy.

 

[mrsrobinson]

Funny how the guy who posts "private" conversations publically and continually insults posters for having less than expert advice, is the first one to scream like a stuck pig the minute his boorish behavior is called out. Since when does some arbitrary level of boating knowledge preclude us from treating another member with respect or courtesy?
Why? because he writes an entertaining blog? All that type of behavior is going to accomplish is discourage younger or less experienced members from offering their experience or asking what may be perceived as silly questions. Members like Greg's friend.
Kearney is a member here, same as everyone else. If owning a Searay was a prerequisite, then the admin would have removed him long ago. But because he's one of the few members that doesn't hang on Gary's every word or possess his level of expertise he becomes a favorite target.
It's pretty clear here by the responses and outpouring to bring back a person, who by the admins own admission was never banned, that the vast majority enjoys and even endorses this type of behavior. Dedicate an entire section to Gary? Hell, we can do better than that! make him an admin!, better yet rename the site after him!!
Sounds like a plan.
Enjoy.

You wanna go get a beer together....let's see if Hampton can join us too!

 

[Turtlesboat]

[youtube]8RAfpNAqE-4[/youtube]

 

[nauticaldog]

[youtube]8RAfpNAqE-4[/youtube]

I gotta laugh at that one. I wanted to post it 6 pages ago!

 

[mrsrobinson]

"I think that this kind of "behind the scene" fights pushed Gary over the limit...."

So if I understand you correctly, if me and another CSR member get into a behind the scenes fight and it pushes me over the limit it's OK to copy the PM and talk about it in a forum? And it's also OK for me to post a picture of the member in a urinal suggesting I piss on him? And I will be applauded and given a lot of at a boys for going public with the discussion and expressing how I feel about this member. Is that what I am hearing you state?

 

[comsnark]

STOP! This is getting Silly!

This is getting a bit ridiculous. This is an internet forum. . .run by a private individual. You can't seriously have any expectation for compensation or privacy.

If you want privacy. . don't post your name. Ever.

If you want compensation for your "intellectual property". . .then don't provide the compensation until you are paid.

As for Gary. . .puhlease. Ok he is funny. Ok he is knowledgable. I figured that out for myself. Thankyouverymuch

OK. . . .now because he got a post or two deleted he has taken his ball and gone home. And deleted a pile of his own posts. OK. . that tells me more about the character of this individual. I am over it.

I am not in the PETA crowd. I don't whine over posts. But I will continue to openly say that the moderators here do a good job. They should not change their policies merely to appease certain individuals. They listen to feedback and make changes as appropriate. I see these changes.. . .and applaud their open mindedness.

 

[Four Suns]

Good gosh! Not only can some of you ruin CSR, you can ruin a THREAD!

So we have this:

Some of their responses even sound a little sociopathic. Who knows what hang ups these folks suffer from. Many are angry or immature, and most of them are unhappy for various reasons real and imagined. Are they offensive? Sure, but it's the Internet and it is what it is. Don't sweat the bad behavior and passive (and even open) agression.

This is from a guy who owns a Tiara and hangs out on a Sea Ray board telling people they should have bought a Sea Ray.. am I the only one that finds irony in that?

Then I have this jg300da complaining about how I didn't say "please" and treat him with respect...

John (Hampton) is sorta playing on the line....

Cornstalk is being himself...

and Greg (Mrs. Robinson) is laying on a couch bloviating about how he represents the moral good.

This is the deal with Greg... He got all upset with me about this thread:

http://clubsearay.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12434&highlight=impeller

It was a new member and a new poster. Greg goes off and gives him some bad info. I don't think my responses were rude at all. And then Greg goes and starts firing off these PMs to me saying we should discuss this "disagreement" in private and I should not post stuff like that just to make him look bad and he's wondering what he ever did to deserve that treatment. I did not answer him.... Come on! That's what this is about. Pointing out *you are wrong* is not "disrespect" but somehow that's what Greg believes. He believes everyone gets to state their opinion and you should PM him to convince him he is wrong and not say it in "public".

Get over it Greg. You sound like you were raised by two older sisters that picked on you and made you wear a dress on the weekends.

Sheez... I'm surprised some people here even got the urinal joke because their wife makes them sit on the toilet to pee.

 

[mrsrobinson]

This is getting a bit ridiculous. This is an internet forum. . .run by a private individual. You can't seriously have any expectation for compensation or privacy.

If you want privacy. . don't post your name. Ever.

If you want compensation for your "intellectual property". . .then don't provide the compensation until you are paid.

As for Gary. . .puhlease. Ok he is funny. Ok he is knowledgable. I figured that out for myself. Thankyouverymuch

OK. . . .now because he got a post or two deleted he has taken his ball and gone home. And deleted a pile of his own posts. OK. . that tells me more about the character of this individual. I am over it.

I am not in the PETA crowd. I don't whine over posts. But I will continue to openly say that the moderators here do a good job. They should not change their policies merely to appease certain individuals. They listen to feedback and make changes as appropriate. I see these changes.. . .and applaud their open mindedness.

"the moderators here do a good job. They should not change their policies merely to appease certain individuals. They listen to feedback and make changes as appropriate. I see these changes.. . .and applaud their open mindedness."

Well said, +1