What the heck is going on with our country?

Discussion in 'The Tiki Bar' started by Gofirstclass, Nov 30, 2017.

  1. RollerCoastr

    RollerCoastr Well-Known Member

    Nov 15, 2007
    Cedar Point, OH / Miami, FL / MacRay Harbor, MI
    1997 400DA
    340HP 7.4 Mercruiser Bluewaters
    Garmin 8212, 741 24HD, Intellian I2
    1999 280BR
    Twin 250HP Merc 350 Alpha Ones
    I was referring to whataboutism reaching back to Clinton, who was the 42nd. I DO struggle to say Trump tho!
     
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  2. Third Edition

    Third Edition Member

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  3. northshore

    northshore Well-Known Member SILVER Sponsor

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  4. Mike Blake

    Mike Blake Active Member

    Jan 27, 2012
    Yankeetown FL West coast
    89 340 Sundance all Raymarine.
    Gas hogs 454X2.
    Thank you! Snowflakes need a vacation.
     
  5. Razzle Dazzle

    Razzle Dazzle Ship shape and Bristol Fashion SILVER Sponsor

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    Sea Ray Express Cruiser 340 1989 Mercruiser 7.4
    Mercruiser twin 7.4 Gas powered
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    I am a Snow, but not a flake. Here is my new to me, needs cosmetics and electronics 340 Sea Ray. Does it look familiar?
     
  6. M Prod

    M Prod Active Member SILVER Sponsor GOLD Sponsor

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    Oct 6, 2017
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    Sorry ..just had to. :-D

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  7. Blueone

    Blueone Member SILVER Sponsor

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    I have a lot of Canadian friends and family and they all share your point of view... It's okay... It's just a car burning.

    I was up in Ontario over the holidays and my brother in law showed me this tax summary for 2017. Keep in mind they also pay 13% sales tax after income tax... $40 for a case of beer... And $3.8oUS for a gallon of gas ..... Electric and natural gas is through the roof where a lot of my family and friends have timers to run dishwashers and dryers and wash machines off peak hours....And they still need supplemental health insurance for what the government doesn't cover... Including dental....Socialism doesn't work...
     

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  8. Razzle Dazzle

    Razzle Dazzle Ship shape and Bristol Fashion SILVER Sponsor

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    Mercruiser twin 7.4 Gas powered
    Some folks don't want to be confused with facts as they might point out to them the errors in their opinions. If you can't dazzle them with facts baffle then with bull spit.
     
  9. Bt Doctur

    Bt Doctur Well-Known Member

    Aug 21, 2010
    New Jersey
    Ex SRV 240 Weekender twin
    in between
    funny how Clinton gets a hummer in the White House, Obama spends 8 years in office and they were both Democrats. Hillary give Uranium to the Russians
    and you dis-enchanted Democrats still pick on a President that was elected
    BY THE AMERICAN CITIZENS who will make America Great again
     
  10. Gofirstclass

    Gofirstclass Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    Apr 20, 2010
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    1995 550 Sedan Bridge,
    2010 Boston Whaler 130 Super Sport,
    1981 Boston Whaler 130 Sport,
    CAT 3406C's, 580hp.
    Facts? Let me show you a chart of the DJIA from the past decade.
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    Now let's look at a few things on here. Since these are from historical data, we can count on them as facts, easily verifiable from a variety of sources.

    When Obama took office the DJIA was at 7949. On the day Trump took office it was at 19732, a gain of 11,783, or an average gain of 122.7 points per month.

    But of more importance, look at the period from the beginning of 2015 until the election at the end of 2016, which by the way, Trump won. The DJIA was rangebound for that entire period and didn't gain at all. So your comment about the DJIA being on a steady climb since Obama took office is not exactly true. Close, but no cigar. Oh, speaking of cigars, have you seen what Bill Clinton has...but I digress. Sorry.

    Also look at the volume of stock trades over the time Obama was in office. It is a steadily declining volume which indicates a decreasing confidence in his performance and the outlook for the country as a whole.

    Now look at the period of almost a year since Trump has been president. When Trump got elected the DJIA was at 19,732. Today it closed at 24,922 for a gain of 5,190 points, or an average of around 451 points per month, or about 3.7 times as much gain per month as when Obama was in office.

    But of more importance, look at the volume numbers starting with the day Hillary lost the election. (And such a tear jerker day it was for all those poor snowflakes. Since my credibility on here in some eyes is already at rock bottom it can't be damaged much further.) It went from around 100 million shares per day to around 350 million shares per day. Again, about a 350% gain.

    I submit that this HUGE increase in the DJIA and the similar increase in the volume of shares traded does rely in part on speculation that economic conditions will be favorable, but it also is an indicator of the confidence in our new president that he will carry through on his election promises, many of which he has already done.

    In a way it's a shame Hillary didn't win the election because we could have seen what the DJIA thought of her. But, to quote her, "What difference – at this point, what difference does it make?"

    None, I guess. Darn, there goes my credibility again. Sorry.
     
  11. OllieC

    OllieC Member SILVER Sponsor

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    Mar 11, 2013
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    Trump groped this, in public
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    and yet Married this
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    weird......

    Jessica Leeds looks more like Bill Clintons taste.....just sayin'
     
  12. Great Lakes

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    To keep it simple. Just open up your 410k. We all gained 25% +/- in a year!! However, Democrats will say that it was 8 years of Obama policies finally working.. Can you imagine where we'd be if Clinton was elected
     
  13. Woody

    Woody Well-Known Member PLATINUM Sponsor

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    She claims it happened in the late '70's so she might have been in better shape then.

    Another 40 year old accusation and we're being told that we 'must believe them'. Some real BS goin' on......
     
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  14. Woody

    Woody Well-Known Member PLATINUM Sponsor

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    2005 420DA
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    I can imagine it....Bill would be in seventh heavan with the interns, Huma would be White House Chief of Staff and Carlos Danger would be Secretary of State instead of in jail....OH YA, and they'd all be laughing their asses off.
     
  15. Woody

    Woody Well-Known Member PLATINUM Sponsor

    Nov 20, 2007
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    Here's a rare positive article, I hope the Prez can keep it going. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...ers-were-very-very-good/ar-BBHUy92?li=BBnb7Kz
     
  16. OllieC

    OllieC Member SILVER Sponsor

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    2005 Weekender 215
    Mercruiser 5.0 mpi, Bravo III
    At risk of being banned for 'locker room talk"
    1980
    This
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    or this?

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    Out of all of this controversy, this is the only photo of Jessica Leeds I can find from that era on a search....so, I'm assuming, this is her 'best' photo.

    It just doesn't seem plausible that a Manhattan boy who's into exotic fashionable women would be into an earthy Anne Murray type........
     
  17. JVM225

    JVM225 Well-Known Member

    Apr 8, 2008
    Farmingdale, NY
    2002 410 Sundancer, Monaco Edition.
    3126 Cats.
    I think a third party that was on the plane came forward and discredited Leeds shortly after this allegation was made, as a result, the press dropped the story like a hot potato.
     
  18. Gofirstclass

    Gofirstclass Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    Apr 20, 2010
    Tri Cities, WA
    1995 550 Sedan Bridge,
    2010 Boston Whaler 130 Super Sport,
    1981 Boston Whaler 130 Sport,
    CAT 3406C's, 580hp.
    Hmmmm, I wouldn't mind being into either of them. On an ongoing basis.
     
  19. CliffA

    CliffA Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    Dec 29, 2009
    Lake Norman, NC
    2001 Sea Ray 340DA
    Name: 'Happy Place'
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    Purchased Nov. 2014
    Fresh Water Use
    Twin Merc. 6.2L (MPI)
    Raw Water Cooled
    V-Drive Transmissions
    at least Jessica Leeds likes boats.....:rolleyes:.....

    cliff
     
  20. Creekwood

    Creekwood Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    Apr 26, 2009
    Oakville and Georgian Bay, Ontario
    '97 330 Sundancer
    2X 454 w/ vDrives
    Time to close this thread folks. We do need to start a Honda generator one.
     

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